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lol did my joke really turn into this? i was just kidding about the color on his name
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I remember you going AFK as mafia when you got nuked after claiming a third world nation iirc
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On April 20 2010 04:46 Bill Murray wrote:
seriously 10 games and not red
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im seriously getting fed up with people accusing me every time im green. how am i ever going to get to be a better player when all u all do is kill me?
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This just means we have to work harder to win, but i'm worried that there's no town circle forming. veterans like ace and bc need to get off their asses and actually do something instead of appearing bored and letting the town go to shit.
since you guys aren't stepping it up, i'll have to. since i know i'm green, we can create a town circle around me. I'm not asking you to roleclaim to me, but if you are a member of this town, and want to contribute and win then u need to listen to me.
We need to get rid of people who aren't stepping up to the plate. these players are supposed to be good and helpful players but instead they are not helping or are just posting garbage:
Tree.Hugger, Ace, BC, Infundibulum,
There are also people who have scummy suspicious posts or are strangely quiet like meeple, Zona, abenson, or KF91
On April 21 2010 11:11 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 09:21 Incognito wrote:Actually meeple is a fairly suspicious character imo. Let me go back through his archived posts and check. Ok, useless posts, followed by attacking BC's plan/idea. Not really pro-town, but not suspicious yet either. Oh noes. Next post he defends BC. Not sure how much we can read into this. But flip floppiness is kinda pro-mafia. Then he ignores BM, cool. Advocates anti day-3 double lynch policy. Ok, fine I guess this is a justifiable position. There are plenty of people who have advocated this position in the past. Regardless though, traditionally usually have a decent amount of information in our hands by day 3. Yet meeple arbitrarily assumes that we won't have enough info by day 3. On April 18 2010 06:50 meeple wrote:
I don't agree that Day 3 is a good time to use the lynch... we still won't have tons of info by then. I didn't say we wouldn't have enough... I said we wouldn't have tons. We probably will have enough... but not so much that I would be totally comfortable with doing it and the second lynch will probably be a stretch. It really all depends on how the game plays out. If after tonights killings there is reason to believe in Day 3 we'll be set on two Mafia I might very well change my mind. But I'm just playing it safe... too many lynches without enough information just means more green deaths. Show nested quote +Really? Well why don't you try to make generate this info then? Seriously info doesn't just pop out of nowhere into your hands. Seems to me like meeple has no intention of attempting to get information. He inherently assumes that not enough will be available. Oops! Also, another thing to note about meeple's posting is that if you look at all of meeple's posts as a whole, he is always reacting. He is always responding to what is going on immediately in front of him. Not going through or trying to analyze other players as a whole. Strike two! Well, before I write him off on that, meeple: start trying to dig up and analyze real information instead of just responding to what is immediately in front of you please.. You're right... this is something I'm guilty of. I am normally a reactionary player and even more so in this game... I mean hell even this response is only a reaction to you prodding me a bit. I will make an effort to poke the bear and get some information. Show nested quote +Continuing, meeple finally decides to respond to the BM incident, complains about inactivity, and jokes around. Casually mentions a bandwagon (not certain if this is an anti-bandwagon stance, but I assume it is?), and then in the next post jumps onto the jpak wagon. Talk about hypocrisy. I don't remember complaining about inactivity... in fact I think I said that its been pretty good, with 40 pages by Day 1. About bandwagons: Normally bandwagons are something to be avoided... but in a game where you need a majority vote to lynch they're inevitable, and even necessary. Do you really think that everyone voting for jpak really beleived him to be scum? Or even agreed with the reasons he was being lynched? Without Jugan switching last minute (when he claimed he wouldn't) we wouldn't have got a lynch at all. We should still look closely at people who do little but bandwagon (yeah I fall on this list right now, but whatever) Show nested quote +Next several posts are trash, and then he comes up with a medic list. Cool. It looks useful. Unfortunately, infundibulum already made one of those. He was probably ignored, but oh wells. At least meeple leaves Ace (Detective?) off the list, and adds some people to the list who aren't really worth mentioning. tree.hugger? Foolishness hasn't been useful, and hobbes is a big WUT? Why does meeple also ignore Zona and d3_crescentia from his list? Shady and poorly thought out list at best. Next he defends himself from Caller. And now he will have to defend himself from me. Better come out and explain yourself before I explain your situation for you (well, I already did). (Note to inactives, don't think that I'm going to give you the same treatment as meeple and let you defend yourselves. The difference here is that at least meeple is being active. He gets a few more bonus tolerance points on my list than you guys do).
Oh also I'd like you to come out and explain your choices for your bizzare medic list. Yeah the medic list eh... hrmmm... not entirely well thought out but certaintly I can defend it. The list wasn't meant to tell the medics exactly what to do... and surely it wasn't meant to include everyone that I thought was at risk. I actually meant to include d3 and don't know why it didn't end up on there. But Zona and Ace were ignored because Zona hasn't been especially active other than his Zbot and he's been really active on other parts of the site, so although his contributions have been incredibly useful he hasn't been all too active around here. Ace seems to have given up on the game and I have doubts whether he really is a dt... but regardless it's not like he's contributing to anything other than his ingame-game. I saw Infund's list... but I thought it could be expanded... tree.hugger and foolishness have posted semi-intelligently but yeah hobbes... mmm... that's someone that might have been left off given some more thought.
This post feels pretty squirmy to me
Also, Meeple, when you said "On April 20 2010 09:59 meeple wrote:
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On April 20 2010 09:58 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
If Jugan switches it'll be to vote for me
Oh you doubter... I know Jugan is a team player "
How on earth do you KNOW that?
Let's lynch Meeple.
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On April 21 2010 12:16 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 11:16 Bill Murray wrote:
This just means we have to work harder to win, but i'm worried that there's no town circle forming. veterans like ace and bc need to get off their asses and actually do something instead of appearing bored and letting the town go to shit.
since you guys aren't stepping it up, i'll have to. since i know i'm green, we can create a town circle around me. I'm not asking you to roleclaim to me, but if you are a member of this town, and want to contribute and win then u need to listen to me.
We need to get rid of people who aren't stepping up to the plate. these players are supposed to be good and helpful players but instead they are not helping or are just posting garbage:
Tree.Hugger, Ace, BC, Infundibulum,
Lolwut since when does BM step up to the plate? And since when does tree.hugger trump ppl like Zona for the "good and helpful players" list? Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 11:11 meeple wrote:On April 21 2010 09:21 Incognito wrote:Actually meeple is a fairly suspicious character imo. Let me go back through his archived posts and check. Ok, useless posts, followed by attacking BC's plan/idea. Not really pro-town, but not suspicious yet either. Oh noes. Next post he defends BC. Not sure how much we can read into this. But flip floppiness is kinda pro-mafia. Then he ignores BM, cool. Advocates anti day-3 double lynch policy. Ok, fine I guess this is a justifiable position. There are plenty of people who have advocated this position in the past. Regardless though, traditionally usually have a decent amount of information in our hands by day 3. Yet meeple arbitrarily assumes that we won't have enough info by day 3. On April 18 2010 06:50 meeple wrote:
I don't agree that Day 3 is a good time to use the lynch... we still won't have tons of info by then. I didn't say we wouldn't have enough... I said we wouldn't have tons. We probably will have enough... but not so much that I would be totally comfortable with doing it and the second lynch will probably be a stretch. It really all depends on how the game plays out. If after tonights killings there is reason to believe in Day 3 we'll be set on two Mafia I might very well change my mind. But I'm just playing it safe... too many lynches without enough information just means more green deaths. Really? Well why don't you try to make generate this info then? Seriously info doesn't just pop out of nowhere into your hands. Seems to me like meeple has no intention of attempting to get information. He inherently assumes that not enough will be available. Oops! Also, another thing to note about meeple's posting is that if you look at all of meeple's posts as a whole, he is always reacting. He is always responding to what is going on immediately in front of him. Not going through or trying to analyze other players as a whole. Strike two! Well, before I write him off on that, meeple: start trying to dig up and analyze real information instead of just responding to what is immediately in front of you please.. You're right... this is something I'm guilty of. I am normally a reactionary player and even more so in this game... I mean hell even this response is only a reaction to you prodding me a bit. I will make an effort to poke the bear and get some information. Continuing, meeple finally decides to respond to the BM incident, complains about inactivity, and jokes around. Casually mentions a bandwagon (not certain if this is an anti-bandwagon stance, but I assume it is?), and then in the next post jumps onto the jpak wagon. Talk about hypocrisy. I don't remember complaining about inactivity... in fact I think I said that its been pretty good, with 40 pages by Day 1. About bandwagons: Normally bandwagons are something to be avoided... but in a game where you need a majority vote to lynch they're inevitable, and even necessary. Do you really think that everyone voting for jpak really beleived him to be scum? Or even agreed with the reasons he was being lynched? Without Jugan switching last minute (when he claimed he wouldn't) we wouldn't have got a lynch at all. We should still look closely at people who do little but bandwagon (yeah I fall on this list right now, but whatever) Next several posts are trash, and then he comes up with a medic list. Cool. It looks useful. Unfortunately, infundibulum already made one of those. He was probably ignored, but oh wells. At least meeple leaves Ace (Detective?) off the list, and adds some people to the list who aren't really worth mentioning. tree.hugger? Foolishness hasn't been useful, and hobbes is a big WUT? Why does meeple also ignore Zona and d3_crescentia from his list? Shady and poorly thought out list at best. Next he defends himself from Caller. And now he will have to defend himself from me. Better come out and explain yourself before I explain your situation for you (well, I already did). (Note to inactives, don't think that I'm going to give you the same treatment as meeple and let you defend yourselves. The difference here is that at least meeple is being active. He gets a few more bonus tolerance points on my list than you guys do).
Oh also I'd like you to come out and explain your choices for your bizzare medic list. Yeah the medic list eh... hrmmm... not entirely well thought out but certaintly I can defend it. The list wasn't meant to tell the medics exactly what to do... and surely it wasn't meant to include everyone that I thought was at risk. I actually meant to include d3 and don't know why it didn't end up on there. But Zona and Ace were ignored because Zona hasn't been especially active other than his Zbot and he's been really active on other parts of the site, so although his contributions have been incredibly useful he hasn't been all too active around here. Ace seems to have given up on the game and I have doubts whether he really is a dt... but regardless it's not like he's contributing to anything other than his ingame-game. I saw Infund's list... but I thought it could be expanded... tree.hugger and foolishness have posted semi-intelligently but yeah hobbes... mmm... that's someone that might have been left off given some more thought. This post feels pretty squirmy to me Um what makes you think this? I thought it was at least halfway decent...
zona isnt doing a fucking thing to help us
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On April 21 2010 12:26 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 12:21 Bill Murray wrote:On April 21 2010 12:16 Incognito wrote:On April 21 2010 11:16 Bill Murray wrote:
This just means we have to work harder to win, but i'm worried that there's no town circle forming. veterans like ace and bc need to get off their asses and actually do something instead of appearing bored and letting the town go to shit.
since you guys aren't stepping it up, i'll have to. since i know i'm green, we can create a town circle around me. I'm not asking you to roleclaim to me, but if you are a member of this town, and want to contribute and win then u need to listen to me.
We need to get rid of people who aren't stepping up to the plate. these players are supposed to be good and helpful players but instead they are not helping or are just posting garbage:
Tree.Hugger, Ace, BC, Infundibulum,
Lolwut since when does BM step up to the plate? And since when does tree.hugger trump ppl like Zona for the "good and helpful players" list? On April 21 2010 11:11 meeple wrote:On April 21 2010 09:21 Incognito wrote:Actually meeple is a fairly suspicious character imo. Let me go back through his archived posts and check. Ok, useless posts, followed by attacking BC's plan/idea. Not really pro-town, but not suspicious yet either. Oh noes. Next post he defends BC. Not sure how much we can read into this. But flip floppiness is kinda pro-mafia. Then he ignores BM, cool. Advocates anti day-3 double lynch policy. Ok, fine I guess this is a justifiable position. There are plenty of people who have advocated this position in the past. Regardless though, traditionally usually have a decent amount of information in our hands by day 3. Yet meeple arbitrarily assumes that we won't have enough info by day 3. On April 18 2010 06:50 meeple wrote:
I don't agree that Day 3 is a good time to use the lynch... we still won't have tons of info by then. I didn't say we wouldn't have enough... I said we wouldn't have tons. We probably will have enough... but not so much that I would be totally comfortable with doing it and the second lynch will probably be a stretch. It really all depends on how the game plays out. If after tonights killings there is reason to believe in Day 3 we'll be set on two Mafia I might very well change my mind. But I'm just playing it safe... too many lynches without enough information just means more green deaths. Really? Well why don't you try to make generate this info then? Seriously info doesn't just pop out of nowhere into your hands. Seems to me like meeple has no intention of attempting to get information. He inherently assumes that not enough will be available. Oops! Also, another thing to note about meeple's posting is that if you look at all of meeple's posts as a whole, he is always reacting. He is always responding to what is going on immediately in front of him. Not going through or trying to analyze other players as a whole. Strike two! Well, before I write him off on that, meeple: start trying to dig up and analyze real information instead of just responding to what is immediately in front of you please.. You're right... this is something I'm guilty of. I am normally a reactionary player and even more so in this game... I mean hell even this response is only a reaction to you prodding me a bit. I will make an effort to poke the bear and get some information. Continuing, meeple finally decides to respond to the BM incident, complains about inactivity, and jokes around. Casually mentions a bandwagon (not certain if this is an anti-bandwagon stance, but I assume it is?), and then in the next post jumps onto the jpak wagon. Talk about hypocrisy. I don't remember complaining about inactivity... in fact I think I said that its been pretty good, with 40 pages by Day 1. About bandwagons: Normally bandwagons are something to be avoided... but in a game where you need a majority vote to lynch they're inevitable, and even necessary. Do you really think that everyone voting for jpak really beleived him to be scum? Or even agreed with the reasons he was being lynched? Without Jugan switching last minute (when he claimed he wouldn't) we wouldn't have got a lynch at all. We should still look closely at people who do little but bandwagon (yeah I fall on this list right now, but whatever) Next several posts are trash, and then he comes up with a medic list. Cool. It looks useful. Unfortunately, infundibulum already made one of those. He was probably ignored, but oh wells. At least meeple leaves Ace (Detective?) off the list, and adds some people to the list who aren't really worth mentioning. tree.hugger? Foolishness hasn't been useful, and hobbes is a big WUT? Why does meeple also ignore Zona and d3_crescentia from his list? Shady and poorly thought out list at best. Next he defends himself from Caller. And now he will have to defend himself from me. Better come out and explain yourself before I explain your situation for you (well, I already did). (Note to inactives, don't think that I'm going to give you the same treatment as meeple and let you defend yourselves. The difference here is that at least meeple is being active. He gets a few more bonus tolerance points on my list than you guys do).
Oh also I'd like you to come out and explain your choices for your bizzare medic list. Yeah the medic list eh... hrmmm... not entirely well thought out but certaintly I can defend it. The list wasn't meant to tell the medics exactly what to do... and surely it wasn't meant to include everyone that I thought was at risk. I actually meant to include d3 and don't know why it didn't end up on there. But Zona and Ace were ignored because Zona hasn't been especially active other than his Zbot and he's been really active on other parts of the site, so although his contributions have been incredibly useful he hasn't been all too active around here. Ace seems to have given up on the game and I have doubts whether he really is a dt... but regardless it's not like he's contributing to anything other than his ingame-game. I saw Infund's list... but I thought it could be expanded... tree.hugger and foolishness have posted semi-intelligently but yeah hobbes... mmm... that's someone that might have been left off given some more thought. This post feels pretty squirmy to me Um what makes you think this? I thought it was at least halfway decent... zona isnt doing a fucking thing to help us Well uh...and you think Ace and BC ARE going to do something to help us?
Yes. BC might. Ace started to but I am not seeing him contribute to the town... They are doing a LOT more than Zona. I haven't seen Zona for literally like 40 hours or something.
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On April 21 2010 12:36 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
Just got home and found out I got killed.
GG All, good luck town
we don't need LUCK as a town. We need action.
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On April 21 2010 12:37 Ace wrote:
STOP THE GAME!
Rolecheck on Caller came back : Caller is Mafia
Lets get this shit.
If this is true we have a lot of information here on who was waggoning with him and shit. good find man, this is exactly the kind of thing we need as a town
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caller has been acting really weird
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On April 21 2010 12:41 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 12:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
Ace, do you mind explaining me what reasoning you have for your little auction game. And how did you set how much cash every player has? because I'm pro. I wasn't joking about the player that bids highest gets to set the rolecheck. Of course I gave Caller mad phat l00t and like a sap he used it thinking his bluff would scare me. LOLOLOLOLOLOL! Lynch that Mafia scum! I caught him Day 1 without a role check, then I caught him Night 1 with my role check. <---pro If you want to learn how to hunt scum follow my lead fools!
i kind of believe you. i'm going to go for a smoke and think about this. caller was a lot more afk as mafia at the start of WaW wasnt he?
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you boys quit your tomfoolery;)
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bein' green we ain' privy to dem hoity toity rolechecks
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Bill is weird. From his assassin "plan" though, I'd probably look at his followers more closely than him. He's being kinda funky, like always, but he's been accusing more than usual. Usually he posts more about himself being green, no? Or maybe that was just a result of L attacking him like a relentless attack dog. Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list. Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red,
i'm weird? understatement of the century.
what do you mean by "plan"...
I have followers?
funky like smelly or like a funky ass bass solo?
i'm accusing more than normal because i have nothing better to do only my mind and vote
my play is evolving
"Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list."
why are you talking about me then? you are a lot more suspicious than i am
Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red,
rolecheck me i'm fucking green
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On April 21 2010 13:31 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 13:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 21 2010 13:16 Ace wrote:
oh nice of you to finally call out Caller after I already did the dirty work infundibulum. Put your vote where your mouth is and get rid of this scum. Not so fast, Ace. What happened to always lynching the claimer, your old mantra? There is always the possibility that you are lying about your rolecheck, and then we lynch Caller and lo and behold he flips not green then we have to spend another Day lynching you. Granted this is a different scenario than a Day 1 claim as we have some posts to analyze. But I'm not going place any votes on anyone yet until i'm caught up with the thread all they way (missing some pages before this one, just saw this as I replied) Yea this isn't a Day 1 RC. This is an RC after I already found Caller to be scummy. But hey if you guys want to lynch me good luck!
i don't believe in luck. i also don't believe in sacrificing a detective for 1 red, so here's what we're going to do.
we're going to lynch caller, and find out if ace is lying. we will use medics to protect him if he's telling the truth, and if he's not we'll lynch him because as a town we need to lynch all liars.
in all likelihood ace isn't lying, and caller will be red, so medics you may have had your task of finding someone to protect made a whole hell of a lot easier
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that being said you should have considered protecting ace anyways
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On April 21 2010 13:37 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 13:30 Incognito wrote:
Since I am going to be absent for the next 1.5 days, I thought I'd just post my thoughts so hopefully you could get a general idea of where to look. Please don't ignore analyzing the guy underneath you though!
(Semi-)active suspicious people:
tree.hugger is against BM's assassin plan but wants to discuss it. Is this because he wants the town to go on the wrong track/get distracted from their real objectives? Tries to derail the thread by continuing to talk about assassins...is he an assassin?? Or just a mafioso using that as an excuse to find something to talk about? Posts other useless information, and lately posts that he agrees with foolishness and me that there is enough information to work off of. He also complains about the vets not helping, but shows no intention of actually helping.
RebirthOfLegenD: Promises reds and results. Fine, its only day 2. But he posted recently and all it was was a *cry* blues have died post. Not the greatest activity there. Planning to do something anytime soon? Responds to assassin discussion. I'm glad BC pointed out to us about how BM's plan produced results. Hopefully I won't over do it on this factor, but if we add up all the factors, it might give us something. Other than that, RoL has been pretty useless.
RaGe: Tries to tell us to random lynch on day 1. I get it now, its not that terrible but not that great. Overall, just tells us nothing in general. He then proceeds to get attacked and has produced nothing useful since. Only defense of himself. Which isn't really pro-town.
Scamp: Talks about assassins. Pops in to say useless stuff. Only one semi-decent post, which just parrots the attacks on TheLardyGooser. Debating whether I should have put him here or lower on the list, but I don't see any redeeming value here yet.
Abenson: Talks about assassins. And that's pretty much it. This should probably be just counted as inactivity, but whatever.
Caller: Rolechecked red, and has been making some pretty loose intuition-based attacks on ppl. No strong solid evidence here, so nothing of redeeming value. I guess the rolecheck does it for me. The only reason I could see for Ace lying like that was if he was mafia. I don't think he's that "L"ish to sabotage his own team, so he's probably telling the truth if town. Since its not exactly the best time to sac a mafia member (a mafia death would mean a KP drop), its highly unlikely that Ace really is mafia in this situation imo.
Falcynn: Useless chatterbox.
nai.Protoss: Posts when accused. Nothing more. Not too high profile but someone to look out for.
madnessman: just barely makes the cut...on the suspicious side. Not too useful, but then again, not too useless either.
Just purely inactive - and therefore should be prodded and abused so they can be useful:
Scaramanga
Fishball
Koryone: New player, but claims newb. Something to look out for if it gets excessive, otherwise this name is just here to make sure he doesn't get overlooked.
JadeFist: Rule breaking + auto-changing vote. Otherwise inactive
Roffles: He says some stuff, but nothing outstandingly pro-town or anti-town.
nbtnbt5
love1another
AcrossFiveJulys
motbob
Suspicious people that have some redeeming quality:
infundibulum: Cool. He defends Caller and Caller if appears red (if Ace isn't BSing us), this is a good sign. Although in response to KF, he actually has posted a few suspects (on the DT list if I recall?). Other than that, medic list + DT list shows at least some commitment to the town. Although it isn't all too pro-town.
BloodyC0bbler: Who is being useless. And is supposedly a good blue sniper? I'm not all too convinced though. He better show up to post or else. Not high on the list, but still someone to look out for. His first post seemed pretty pro-town, but other than that nothing else really pro-town.
Bill Murray: Bill is weird. From his assassin "plan" though, I'd probably look at his followers more closely than him. He's being kinda funky, like always, but he's been accusing more than usual. Usually he posts more about himself being green, no? Or maybe that was just a result of L attacking him like a relentless attack dog. Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list. Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red, right?)
meeple: I'm on the fence with him right now. If you want more info you can look at my archived accusation post about him.
Osmoses: Pretty much same as meeple
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Note* by the end, I kinda got lazy. Like I said, I am gone tomorrow, so I need to get to bed early tonight and ran out of time. Either way, good luck in my absence. I know this list is long. If you can get people to talk, it shouldn't be too hard to narrow the list down to a manageable size. But then again, since Caller's checked red, I probably wasted my time here. Just use this as a guideline so you can actually try to do stuff and not just sit there. Just because Ace has found us a mafia doesn't mean we get to rest for a day. Keep up the posting, and cya on thursday! I would just like to point out that since Caller is now proven to be mafia and he tried to take me out near the start when he was under risk of being lynched, I am clearly not mafia. Although I am also proving your point that I only post to defend myself and I am semi-inactive. But until I find time to sift through all these posts and come up with a good arguement for why somone is mafia I don't have anything to post.
Isn't this entire argument WIFOM?
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On April 21 2010 15:08 Ace wrote:
you know whats funny is the only thing BC had going to save his neck is that RoL waited till I said my RC to say he RC'd BC. Of course BC isn't exactly a shining beacon of Scum win so he opens his mouth and makes himself look even more scummy by trying to discredit the person who has nothing to do with his lynch. Amazing. All Vigis should pop you tonight even if RoL is lying.
I don't see the case on bc ace
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On April 21 2010 15:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 15:08 Ace wrote:
you know whats funny is the only thing BC had going to save his neck is that RoL waited till I said my RC to say he RC'd BC. Of course BC isn't exactly a shining beacon of Scum win so he opens his mouth and makes himself look even more scummy by trying to discredit the person who has nothing to do with his lynch. Amazing. All Vigis should pop you tonight even if RoL is lying. Actually ace, I just offered to let town lynch me and 100% confirm RoL as a RC user. As the only way I will appear red is if im miller. So realisticallly, lynching me a) confirms RoL as dt/assassin (or extremely lucky guesser and id drop my hat to him). Where as you just said up above to vigi us both. Sorry bud, advocating killing of one potential DT and not yourself because "your RC is obviously legit" is total crock. We both know your full of it, and the town seriously has to learn or it will constantly fall for it. Seriously, stop your hypocrital BS. You always play kill day 1 RCer, then you basically pulled a folca on caller. The guy is fishy as hell, but so are you. He can flip red all you want, but it does nothing to clear you.
NOBODY CARES!
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