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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 06:46 GMT
#846
On April 20 2010 15:24 meeple wrote:
I see that there's been good use of the Zbot already... huge props to Zona for getting that up and running. It makes a ton of sense.

Now... to aid medics in making some decisions:

High Risk of Dying

- BC
- Caller
- Incog

All are pretty high profile and have been relatively helpfulish... On that note remember BC's plan of letting them live/die by their play. Not a suggestion either way, just something to think about.

Medium Risk

Examples are but definitely not limited to:

- INfund
- tree.hugger
- hobbes
- foolishness

Basically anyone with some experience that's been posting somewhat regularly

The rest are basically low risk... but I'm sure the mafia will pick off some. Also please before you protect someone go over their post history very carefully... we definitely don't want to be protecting reds and for sure there are some reds in the people I listed as perceived high/med risk. Any hints in their post history of scummy behavior and you should think twice about protecting them.


Medics, don't worry protecting me, I can take care of myself =)
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 06:52 GMT
#848
On April 20 2010 15:50 Bill Murray wrote:
if i was a medic i would protect you or ace tbh


I need to use my money for ace to one shot someone, hes sooo not a dt, but a hatterassassin, an assassin who has the powers of a hatter and a veteran.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 06:59 GMT
#850
On April 20 2010 15:58 Bill Murray wrote:
i had him written off as town before he did that, now i'm not sure if he's scummy or not.


I have ace written down as extremely bored. He doesn't even care about starting anything this game, but then again, the activity level overall is really low, and he doesn't want to start things. Fair method overall, just boring.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 07:06 GMT
#852
On April 20 2010 16:04 meeple wrote:
He might very well be a bored dt... but I wouldn't say the activity level is so low... we've had much worse games. 40 pages by Night 1 is alright.


yea, but actual content posting is low. There is alot of filler posting by a ton of us. Anyone wanting a serious game like Ace seems to want would get bored.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 07:07 GMT
#853
I should also toss out as a general note. Ace is typically super against day 1 claims (not sure why not ones really brought this up yet). So the fact he is openly roleclaiming to me is insanely odd. Even bored, purposely jumping out to add random confusion to the game doesn't seem like his regular style, as he enjoy's being the voice of reason in games.

just a little something for those to think on.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 07:13 GMT
#855
On April 20 2010 16:10 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 16:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I should also toss out as a general note. Ace is typically super against day 1 claims (not sure why not ones really brought this up yet). So the fact he is openly roleclaiming to me is insanely odd. Even bored, purposely jumping out to add random confusion to the game doesn't seem like his regular style, as he enjoy's being the voice of reason in games.

just a little something for those to think on.


yeah i remember a game where someone day 1 roleclaimed as a medic and ace let them have it.... judge? something like that. do you know what i'm talkin about?


First game that comes to mind would be folca vs ace in mafia III where folca claimed dt and checked ace claiming ace was red.

Ace then argued how day 1 you always lynch the accuser. He has advocated this stance many many many times. He has also gone after people for day 1 roleclaims. Anyone who roleclaims day 1 should be strongly argued with, as they can't get away scott free with their claim so on and so forth.

If it helps, I don't truely believe hes a dt, and instead enjoy reading his post for subtle hints.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 07:32 GMT
#858
On April 20 2010 16:20 Bill Murray wrote:
mini mafia 2


Just read up on it, both Ace, L and RoL went after judge for the play
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 20:52 GMT
#906
You know, whenever caller makes a semi amount of sense that I think I might agree with him, I have to rethink that he can do such a thing. Bad caller, you should stick to your nonsensical ways so i can write you off everygame.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 21:02 GMT
#912
On April 21 2010 05:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:00 Jugan wrote:
Looks like I get to find out if I'm the miller tonight.


How so?


he thinks hes dying.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 20 2010 21:42 GMT
#919
On April 21 2010 06:21 Jugan wrote:
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On April 21 2010 05:58 IntoTheWow wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:00 Jugan wrote:
Looks like I get to find out if I'm the miller tonight.


How so?


i'm getting modkilled tonight lol


dude, dont get yourself modkilled. That leads to mafia game bans.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 05:46 GMT
#1078
On April 21 2010 11:16 Bill Murray wrote:
This just means we have to work harder to win, but i'm worried that there's no town circle forming. veterans like ace and bc need to get off their asses and actually do something instead of appearing bored and letting the town go to shit.

since you guys aren't stepping it up, i'll have to. since i know i'm green, we can create a town circle around me. I'm not asking you to roleclaim to me, but if you are a member of this town, and want to contribute and win then u need to listen to me.

We need to get rid of people who aren't stepping up to the plate. these players are supposed to be good and helpful players but instead they are not helping or are just posting garbage:
Tree.Hugger, Ace, BC, Infundibulum,

There are also people who have scummy suspicious posts or are strangely quiet like meeple, Zona, abenson, or KF91



Hi BM.

This post is the first one of a series I get to analyze because I'm suddenly getting jumped in the time I was at work. Now everyone, lets start the game of fun.

Notice the bolded part of the post of BM's. He wants a town circle going (yay circles) but he specifically mentions creating the circle around him.....HOW. Without the use of private messaging, no circle can form around any specific member, as he can't be their voice. In a game with post in thread only information, a circle is formed via public roleclaims (which would have to be proven). The only real way to accomplish this is for DT's to publically announce their checks, then you have to prove the dt. THey die their info is legit, etc...

Lets carry on.

On April 21 2010 10:13 Caller wrote:
obvious blue snipers are obvious
who's capable of blue sniping?

Zona
Ace
BloodyCobbler (he's REALLY good at it)
me
Incognito


Hi caller.

Let me educate you on something. I am by far the worst blue sniper on that list in this format. My entire style is based around manipulation of people via out of thread communication. Anyone who has talked to me previous would also know my style of hitting people as mafia is killing key contributors, not blue sniping. Thanks for playing though.

On April 21 2010 13:57 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 13:27 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Great, so I have to nail a mafia every day or you will kill me?

Fine, BC is mafia.

Rolecheck confirmed it.


In light of this, and Ace's alleged RC on Caller, would it be appropriate to double lynch today (Day 2)?

In doing so, we catch either of them if they are lying, or else we kill two scum, which seems like a great result to me.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 21 2010 13:43 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 12:12 KF91 wrote:
Alright, I'm going to go along with Incognito and do my part:

iNfuNdiBuLuM

Important post summaries:
- Urges people to vote to prevent a no lynch

On April 18 2010 04:43 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I want to remind you guys that this game is running the "majority lynch" rule. This means that if no majority is reached, there won't be a lynch.

No lynch is bad for the town. It's like giving a time walk to the mafia (mtg reference nerd lol). This also means abstaining is bad! So please pay attention during votes as they operate a bit differently in this game than most TL mafias.


- Talks about the timing of the double lynch
On April 18 2010 06:34 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
@ KF91 and radfield

I have never liked double lynching early. Most of the time there just isn't a good amount of information at this time and at least 1 townie gets lynched.

One thing fw needs to clean up is whether we can have a double lynch but then only lynch 1 player. I myself doubt it.However, if we can back out, then double lynching is a little less risky since we won't be forced to do a lynch on bad info.


- Supplies the inactive list
On April 19 2010 02:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
These people have not posted yet since the game started or have made about one post with only a few lines in it of little substance:

Roffles
nbtnbt5
krndandaman
Fishball
Elemenope
tree.hugger
rebirth of legend (but he posted a lot pregame too)
RaGe
Jadefist
TheLardyGooser
Caller (wtf mate)
love1another
jpak

Now this is a rather large list (let me know if i missed anybody). One reason could be that the game started on the weekend, so don't think this is some end all be all declaration of scum/inactivity.

However, two things:

1. if we want to lynch an inactive Day 1 this is where we start
2. if you are new and not posting but are here, you should probably start! we don't bite.


- Defends Caller saying that he wouldn't pull of the same mafia act twice in a row
On April 19 2010 02:19 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On April 19 2010 02:17 TheLardyGooser wrote:
I still think BMs plan makes the most sense if I understand it right. I feel like it would put the mafia at a much bigger disadvantage but I am still new at this?


The problem is that we have guarantee that everyone will comply, especially the Assns. As i posted before, the plan basically runs contrary to the victory condition of an assassin, so it makes no sense for them to comply. If i was an assassin i'd spend the first couple nights rolechecking people anyway, since you have so few kills.


On April 19 2010 02:20 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
edit: NO guarantee.


On April 19 2010 05:58 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On April 19 2010 05:56 Ace wrote:
We can just lynch Caller since it's been shown when he doesn't post he's scum.


I dont know. do you really think he'd expect to get away with the same thing for 2 games in a row?


- Medic and DT list

On April 20 2010 13:20 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Guys remember to check out the ZBOT thread, it will be a very useful tool in the near future. I wonder where Zona is though? Busy programming/making love to the robot? I'm sure he'll turn up.

Anyway some suggestions from little old me -

DT list:

Anyone suspicious and/or semi active. From my POV this includes motbob, tree.hugger, BM, TheLardyGooser. Maybe rage because of Day 1? Use your best judgment.

Medic List:

The obvious - Ace (even though he's not helping ... yet, he actually might be a DT), Zona, BC, Incognito, myself (lol )


What makes me really suspicious about infun is the fact that he is looking very pro-town by stating is facts clearly and not getting accused that much, but at the same time, he hasn't been giving any ideas as to what the town should do. He's been giving little nudges here and there to guide the town, but he hasn't really put out a plan we should look at. He doesn't make any type of accusations about anybody and I believe that he doesn't even have suspicions against others.

He really hasn't contributed much after the Ace/Caller/nAi incident, and his last few posts have been mostly one-liners (But I guess I can't really blame him, because the thread post-Night 1 has been getting... spammy.), but it is quite noticeable how his long-drawn posts have recently turned into short one-liners.

Random trivia:
- Infun made the most interaction with Caller in his posts.
- He has made 27 posts since the beginning of the game (Using the archive, so I may be wrong)
- Voted for jpak during Day 1

Final Conclusions:
I personally believe that Infun could be a mafia. His non-aggressive posting style and his recent inactivity (Or lack of posts with content) makes me want to believe that he is mafia pretending to be a "helpful" townie member. He might have had something come up in real life, so we'll have to hear what he has to say. Of course, these are just my thoughts, so feel free to criticize me about what I think about him, and Infun can bash on me if he wants to as well. :D


Well I can't hate on you for getting analysis out there, since it's what everyone needs to be doing instead of posting useless garbage. So props. But some things you said about me simply are, well, factually incorrect or misguided.

I already explained my inactivity in another post. Real life shit; I am a busy man. Here I am posting and making up for lost time though.

I'm not sure why you think it's suspicious that I'm contributing to the town. Look at all the players that aren't contributing anything. It sounds like your concerned that I'm contributing, but not contributing enough. That's fine, I'll try to be more direct in my posts. I never bothered posting any sort of town plan in this game, largely since this game is not about specific town plans - e.g. Bodyguard plans or Assassin plans - but largely about town activity and discussion, which is why i was trying to post helpful information and thoughts about general playing strategy that will best benefit the town. Additionally, why do I have to post aggressively to be town? I have never been a particularly aggressive player, except that one time in Mini Mafia I where the town lynched me and I was the medic and I got really mad (jerks).

You say I was never suspicious of anybody..., right after a quote of my DT list of people I thought were suspicious.

I'll add a couple more:

Caller
Abenson (strangely quiet)
meeple - same as others
RoL - based on my previous analysis
Scaramanga - probably pretending to be useless

anyway i ask people to continue the incog idea of player-beneath-you analysis. hopefully this will get some inactives out of the woodworks when they see their name in the thread.





When I was going through Osmoses's posts, I noticed that too... Abenson hasn't really done anything since the beginning of the game.. pretty suspicious.



It has been mentioned multiple times in this thread we can vote on double lynch and it then is able to be used the following day.

Also, with one dt dead, and ace and RoL claiming dt(or assassin). The chances of having any more than the three is slim (possibly 1 more?) plus however remaining assassins. Heres the issue. Why would two veteran players publicly claim that they are assassin/DT day 2. Ace claimed day 1 and spent the day being a complete tard, and RoL was completely inactive. Suddenly both are saviours day 2? hardly. One if not both are completely full of it.



This game is hilarious. In the span of 6 hours, two people who were fully inactive have jumped out to "save our town" and bring us to victory. Both know the flaws of this sort of play.

However, lets start with the fun and excitement of it all.

RebirthofLegend.
RoL is typically insanely active of a player. Hiding in the shadows could be explained if he was a DT, as he would want to avoid being hit. However, with a record of activity then suddenly none at all, this would stand out to any player who has played with him, and most likely led to his death. Sudden change of behaviour like this is something someone would zero in on.
Next, as a random note. While he was posting his incriminating facts against me here he forgot one vital key. When your suddenly posting insanely actively in a thread against someone you talk to daily, blocking them or appearing offline on a messenger client, not the smartest idea (no this isn't a rule break already clarified with flamewheel that it is a legitimate). GG mate.

Motbob.
Don't let this man fool you. He has been active on TL. While he has been ignoring things like mafia, he has been streaming, being heavily active on irc, etc... Again. A player with a history of activity vanishing into thin air but still active elsewhere shows fishyness. GG again.

Zona
Hi buddy, Your on a list of suspects because of one key issue. YOUR NOT POSTING. I don't care if the excuse will be "sorry guys, was building an archiving bot to make our lives glorious". It serves no purpose as you have contributed nothing to this thread. You were initially active then faded for days, while proving you were still around but not posting. Get off your ass and help or get shot like your mafia pals.

Caller
You put me on a list knowing full well where my speciality in this game lies. Then emphasized me over Ace who is much better at behaviourally linking roles in thread. Pushing for my lynch is clever, but sadly with Ace's RC of you, your red. But don't let that stop you, your buddy RoL came in to save your by pointing a RC at me. The days of glory are upon you. A few pages and some countless spam and even you could be saved in a hilarious way yet again!

Bill Murray and DarthThienAn and ITW for all posting stupid crap regarding PM usage, and use of Double lynch that we can only vote on but not use today, are on the derailer list.

I will have more thoughts as i go back and re read. Stop making me play, I was happy relaxing.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 05:55 GMT
#1085
On April 21 2010 14:44 meeple wrote:
Blanalysis

nbtnbt5

- His very few posts in the thread have just to say he supports BM's assasin plan, and the plan to lynch an inactive. Moreover, the feel of his posts give me a hint of mafia with no idea how to act green. Still needs more posting and information to confirm.

Voted for himself, then a fairly random vote on Falcynn... The self-vote gives me further suspicion that he's red and struggling with the role.

Abenson

- Lots of crap posting... saying alot and remaining active but not actually contributing very much at all
- He might be implicated if Caller really does turn up red, by this post:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 07:05 Abenson wrote:
Hmm...
Caller is always interesting.
I propose we keep him for a bit.
He is a veteran, after all.
If he's not mafia he'll benefit us.


And he prefaced this game by saying he's well known for being useless, which is somewhat of a cop-out so that he doesn't need to answer for what he says.

And Elemenope I'm still waiting for your trademark few but lengthy posts...




Hi meeple. You just confirmed yourself red.

You have pointed the FoS at almost everyone, but hey, your trying to live. Thats not where the confirmation lies.

If you had noticed oh say, days ago. Incognito replaced Elemenope as a player. You have spent most of this game not really contributing, and pointing your finger everywhere. Your initial play this game came as logical, and founded. Quickly it however turned for the worse. You dropped to one liners very quickly. Pointed the FoS at many players. You then make a random med list, where two of the people on said list are dead. (seems slightly odd that people in the spotlight would die. Also a few of the names on there make very little sense to be protected).
You come back to jump on the kill caller wagon with the promise of more suspects to come.

Those suspects include such small amounts of information its odd. With the amount of crapstorm posts we have, you could have easily narrowed down more than 2 people in an hour.

Combine all this with the dead people who were suspicious of you. You have alooot to make up for. shape up.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 05:58 GMT
#1087
On April 21 2010 14:55 Ace wrote:
BC where is your vote? Don't worry about Rol and your post to discredit him. I've already got a solution to this madness. But first put your vote down.


Oh I just read your solution. here I will even quote it for you

On April 21 2010 14:52 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 14:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
Can we use the double lynch right now? I mean, if you are so sure of him, it does make sense to read on other people based on that (who argued in favor of Caller, who against) to double lynch.


nope dont even debate it. People will use that as an excuse to be confused and let Caller slide. Lynch him now, the BC/Rol situation will be resolved by Vigilantes tonight (because ALL of them should shoot either RoL or BC) and then we move on. The only 2 things that should be talked about now: voting for Caller or why you don't trust my rolecheck and who to rape between RoL/BC.

No need to bring up suspicions on other people or talk about a double lynch.


Keep one simple fact here folks. He is advocating vigi's killing me and RoL to confirm us both. He however makes no such basis on himself. He is using a light move on killing a DT roleclaimer who can't be confirmed, while not applying it to himself.


I would however gladly die to flip RoL as red. My death would confirm/deny him and give an auto red at night. That is much simpler than killing him outright if he is a dt. Besides, it means mafia would have to kill him then.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 06:03 GMT
#1090
Also ace, I don't believe your a dt (maybe assassing), so you can get everyone else to do your dirty work.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 06:11 GMT
#1093
On April 21 2010 15:06 Ace wrote:
so if I was an assassin and found out Caller was an Assassin I'd claim he was Mafia, get him lynched, he'd show up as an Assassin and I'd get myself shot by any other assassins remaining in the game? Brilliant.

And if Caller was the last Assassin besides myself I'd like, NOT just you know wait till tonight and shoot him to end the game myself?

Man scum just aren't as smart as they used to be. Then again most of you aren't anyway.


You rc'd day 1, I even pointed out to people to discount it due to your general stance of kill all day 1 roleclaimers. I could care less. The moment you pulled an act you would kill anyone else for was the moment you went from afking troll to pulling the same crap caller was.

Where he used statistics you discredited to prove his points
Your playing a style you completely disagree with.

Hell, of the players in this game. Caller, incog and zona should have jumped you the moment you claimed, as should have foolishness (but as hatter he tried to hide? or he did his regular strat of not posting till later in the game. Zona was just swapped out but at the time he was still in it.

Caller and Incog did nothing to jump you. Seriously. The fact the town is letting you get away with the exact same thing I did last game is hilarious. I will give you that its ballsy, but hilarious none the less.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 06:14 GMT
#1095
On April 21 2010 15:08 Ace wrote:
you know whats funny is the only thing BC had going to save his neck is that RoL waited till I said my RC to say he RC'd BC. Of course BC isn't exactly a shining beacon of Scum win so he opens his mouth and makes himself look even more scummy by trying to discredit the person who has nothing to do with his lynch. Amazing. All Vigis should pop you tonight even if RoL is lying.


Actually ace, I just offered to let town lynch me and 100% confirm RoL as a RC user. As the only way I will appear red is if im miller. So realisticallly, lynching me a) confirms RoL as dt/assassin (or extremely lucky guesser and id drop my hat to him).
Where as you just said up above to vigi us both. Sorry bud, advocating killing of one potential DT and not yourself because "your RC is obviously legit" is total crock.

We both know your full of it, and the town seriously has to learn or it will constantly fall for it. Seriously, stop your hypocrital BS.

You always play kill day 1 RCer, then you basically pulled a folca on caller. The guy is fishy as hell, but so are you. He can flip red all you want, but it does nothing to clear you.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 06:17 GMT
#1096
On April 21 2010 15:14 Caller wrote:
This entire thread is lols.

I'm not even going to bother trying to defend myself here because it's patently obvious that I'm getting bandwagoned and nobody's listening to me.

Here's what you do need to know once you find out that I'm a townie.

A) Ace still has not accepted my bet with him to have nai.protoss lynched to determine my and possibly his affiliation. More importantly, nai.protoss has jumped out of nowhere to proceed to attack me, because

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I would just like to point out that since Caller is now proven to be mafia and he tried to take me out near the start when he was under risk of being lynched, I am clearly not mafia. Although I am also proving your point that I only post to defend myself and I am semi-inactive. But until I find time to sift through all these posts and come up with a good arguement for why somone is mafia I don't have anything to post.


I think it should be fairly obvious that with an idiotic comment like that, once I flip town it should be apparent that nai.protoss is just a stupid townie. No mafia member would ever say something like that EVER. In fact, mafia would be sure to leave a "assuming Ace isn't bullshitting" remark. Someone like...

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Rolechecked red, and has been making some pretty loose intuition-based attacks on ppl. No strong solid evidence here, so nothing of redeeming value. I guess the rolecheck does it for me. The only reason I could see for Ace lying like that was if he was mafia. I don't think he's that "L"ish to sabotage his own team, so he's probably telling the truth if town. Since its not exactly the best time to sac a mafia member (a mafia death would mean a KP drop), its highly unlikely that Ace really is mafia in this situation imo.


I'll let you figure out who that is.

But is Ace a DT? Quite likely. Did he check me? Quite likely. Is he playing rationally? No. It should be fairly obvious that he's trying to spite town here. Look at his attitude change. While it is true that I grossly misrepresented several random pieces of mafiascum terminology, it should also be apparent that the people I attacked were already suspect. RaGe has gone silent since Ace arrived with his high and mighty RC (the one that I personally asked for, twice, I might add).

B) I'm not the only one playing for the metagame here. I hope that when I die you look back on my posts that you notice that I was imitating a very certain someone who isn't in this game

C) IntotheWow is appearing to know too much. Look at this post.

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First, he gave BloodyC0bbler the most bidding power, even thought he has hardly participated so far. Point? Please don't say it's random.

Then he says he gave Caller the most bidding power to make him fall for his trap. Makes sense with meeple riding 120$ and BC as well, but then again there's other suspicious people Foolishness no money? Did you know he was going to die?

You could be an Assassin and then this game would make zero sense at all, since all it's doing is keeping you in the spotlish, either to be lynched or in Mafia eyes to take you down if they feel you are a threat.

If you were a real detective, I don't think this helps too much, you are just instantly rallying people into what you want to do.

You could very well make up whatever answer it fits you best as mafia. If somebody rolechecks anyone, you can make up whatever is the general idea of that person's role. Then again, with one detective down, it's hard to really know what you are up to. If somebody asks for a self-role check (like Jugan did) you can make up whatever you like, Townie would have a high % of nailing it. If you feel your plan might fall that way, you can just kill him during the night before revealing the role check and hence, knowing what the person's role was.

I'm not sure why you are trying to pull this little game, it doesn't help the town at all in my opinion. At the same time I haven't played other Mafia games here, so I don't know if this is your general playstyle, or something you have done before.

I will post more on other people soon, just want to stop some bandwagon that makes no sense. I suspect of Ace as much as I suspect of Caller.

Someone that wants to stop a "no sense" bandwagon, even though it's fairly obvious that he firstly joined one (RoL Day 1) and suspects Ace heavily, yet failed to mention the primary hilarious part, which was quite frankly that I was the one that asked for my own rolecheck. No mafia player ever would do something as risky as that. Why would I go out of my way to do that when I could have instead picked RaGe or meeple, people that were high on my suspect list? It's because it was patently obvious to me that Ace was going the "fuck y'all i'm a boss" strategy. It's an admirable strategy but clearly I either didn't anticipate I was miller or that Ace would be willing to go to such extremes

In other words, ITW is playing too intelligently for someone who's a newbie to TL mafia. Either he is a super mafia genius that will sweep town to victory, or he's scum.

D) BC is a liar. You were pissed at me in Ace's Mafia World because I had pardoned you (and guaranteed your death by mafia the next day) and as a result you were unable to tell us the 6 or so mafia that you pinned by Day 2. Don't give me that "I'm bad at behavior" bullshit. This man is scum.

E) I'm terrible at this game. Don't ever listen to my advice. Seriously. This game is meant to show you how bad I am at this game. Veteran =/= good.

By the same token, since I played just like a certain "veteran" player, you should get the implication.

Summary:
-Once I flip town, you know this means:
-Ace is innocent. Nai.Protoss is innocent.

-ITW and BC are scum. Meeple is also highly likely scum.
Motbob is also likely scum because of his complete uselessness and this:
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##Vote: Caller

Caller and then Ace if Caller flips green


-I'm bad

zizi-yo


Hi caller, I also caught those people via clues. GG NO RE. Do remember that I had no experience behaviourally analyzing anyone till you guys began removing clues from the games, as thats all I spent time on. Thanks for playing.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 06:21 GMT
#1100
On April 21 2010 15:18 Ace wrote:
Oh you didn't notice I was TRYING TO DIE NIGHT 1? Hey not my fault you guys left me alive. Caller didn't even use statistics - lol. Yo seriously are you dudes reading from the same Scum bible because that shit sucks.

The difference between me and you is that when I do things they end up in rape (like what Caller is about to get). When you do it you get posts like this which make 0 sense:

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Where he used statistics you discredited to prove his points
Your playing a style you completely disagree with.

Hell, of the players in this game. Caller, incog and zona should have jumped you the moment you claimed, as should have foolishness (but as hatter he tried to hide? or he did his regular strat of not posting till later in the game. Zona was just swapped out but at the time he was still in it.


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Actually the difference is. Your style of play is very similar to L's except you can't create bandwagons the same way. Don't give me this hole bit of "your fault for leaving me alive" crap. If we did I would use the same reference as I said "hey don't prot me, i want to die" excuse to prove my innocence. Sadly neither is acceptable. You can push all you want, but the thing is ace, your full of the same bullshit your accusing others of touting.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 06:28 GMT
#1109
On April 21 2010 15:22 Ace wrote:
lol wow Caller and BC are both just terrible scum. Caller's last post is full of nonsense like him flipping town means I'm obviously town and nai.protoss is town too when the guy has nothing to do with Caller.

BC keeps trying to bullshit the town into thinking I asked to Vigi 2 players when I said just one of you. BC even said it's ok to lynch him, when I said I'd have a Vigi shoot him but he throws a fit.

Scum logic go go go go go!


No, i actually volunteered for a lynch? Wow. I'd willingly get lynched this day to clear a dt. Thing is, YOUR NO CLEARABLE. You are playing insanely scummy. Knock it off.

On April 21 2010 14:52 Ace wrote:
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On April 21 2010 14:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
Can we use the double lynch right now? I mean, if you are so sure of him, it does make sense to read on other people based on that (who argued in favor of Caller, who against) to double lynch.


nope dont even debate it. People will use that as an excuse to be confused and let Caller slide. Lynch him now, the BC/Rol situation will be resolved by Vigilantes tonight (because ALL of them should shoot either RoL or BC) and then we move on. The only 2 things that should be talked about now: voting for Caller or why you don't trust my rolecheck and who to rape between RoL/BC.

No need to bring up suspicions on other people or talk about a double lynch.



Seriously duder. that bolded area just shows how naive you are. Both of us would lead to getting hit with night hits vigi's will take their chances and not listen to you because like meds, they act usually like tards. Had you been playing more pro town you would have mentioned something like "caller flips green you off me tonight, then off one of those two"

In fact you never even point out that if he flips anything but red you could be lying. You are pushing to kill off two of the game vets, kudo's to you. However the fact you have already been playing a style you've advocated against leaves it already open to your own death. Offer to step up to the hangmans board with me ace. Then maybe i'll take you seriously. TIll then your playing just as badly as caller.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 21 2010 06:31 GMT
#1112
On April 21 2010 15:31 Caller wrote:
once again it should be painfully obvious that

BC is scum
Ace couldn't give a flying L what his role is


Care to stake money on your read of me caller?
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