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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
April 27 2010 04:36 GMT
#1578
On April 26 2010 07:03 d3_crescentia wrote:
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On April 26 2010 01:07 Osmoses wrote:
Wow... BC a miller too? Seriously, what are the odds? I don't know, but unless we're all millers the odds of Ace getting lucky twice in a row must be infintesimal, he's a detective for sure. His analysis doesn't seem very brilliant (though to be fair I suspected both Caller and BC too :p) but he does have rc, so all medics on Ace and... Then what? What do we do with our next double lynch? KF91 has been convincingly pro-town throughout this game and his arguments make sense, so how about his list? Scara, Fishball and Scamp? We can't just go for Ace's rcs, we'll be dead long before we get half of them.

If everyone role claims now, does that really help us? What's stopping mafia from role claiming too and confusing us to hell? We don't know how many blues there are and as previously stated confirming role checks takes at least 2 days (check, kill, confirm).

Suspicion that a character once thought trustworthy may not be trustworthy!

I was hoping you'd come back and post something that would be a bit more thought out, but alas - my hopes were dashed, and you're going to have to go on my super special awesome list.

First of all, I'm not entirely sure we should actually double-lynch anymore. We don't seem to have any candidates; after tonight's deaths we will have SOME additional information to work with but I'm not entirely sure if it's ideal for double-lynch. Secondly, we have some pretty accurate information already about whatever blues we have left in the game - 1 Medic and 1 DT (Ace), likely no more Vigilantes/Hatters and MAYBE a Veteran. The point shouldn't be to individually check everyone but to narrow down our list of suspicions and hammer those people. We can potentially solve conflicting blue claims by double-lynch; then we can narrow down between our jpak list and those that claim townie.

What happens if it draws out our medic into the open (assuming he/she survives tonight)? Tomorrow we'd look at an 11-6 situation knowing two people are clear at the very least. Ace has been pretty good at finding scum but at this point we need to watch who's pointing fingers and who ISN'T pointing fingers at whom. This is the kind of approach that I was thinking about taking in regards to analysis, but I've been holed up in bed for most of the day, and there's actually a good amount of time before the next Day comes up.

I seriously don't have time for this (I got the job, yay!) but guh, analyzing 16 steps down from me, d3:

Uuuuh, OK so posting stuff that's not brilliant is scummy, obviously I can't be that I'm either lazy or unable to provide an in-depth analysis at the time of writing. True enough we don't have any sure-fire candidates to lynch, but look at the townie numbers: we're dead if we don't do something drastic. It's like when the clocks running out on a losing game in hockey and they replace the goalie with another player; you take a shot at winning by risking to lose harder.

If you want to get better evidence against someone before lynching, you better hurry up.

I call suspicion on d3 for going against this very obvious hockey-logic. This reads to me like an attempt to slow down the town. Sure the risk is great, but we're one foot in the grave already. Are you a helping hand or a mailed fist? (props to anyone getting the reference)

We can be fairly sure that we have some blues left, this much is obvious, what are you getting at here? The truth of blue claims will become evident in the course of the game, the way I see it anyone can call blue (that includes townies that want to draw fire as well) and Ace could've either wasted a rc on him/her (dead now I see so moot point) or you can make an assumption on the credibility of that person based on post history. I'm not blue, but if I were a medic I would've protected Ace as he was a high priority target (due to his bonafide rc's) if nothing else then to make the mafia waste hits on him. But wifom and all, you never know how they're gonna think so you could protect anyone really, they might as well go for the least likely target on account of it probably not being medic blocked. Mafia want fast kills before enough people have died to provide decent information, but they also want to kill off trustworthy outers. It's anyone's call who the medic should defend, tell me again how he/she would risk getting drawn into the open?

We're checking who's pointing fingers, but also who's not pointing fingers. That's everybody. It doesn't matter where the fingers point as the mafia are probably mixing in some accurate accusations with their fabricated ones. No offense, but are you perhaps being purposefully useless?

My verdict: shit, I don't know, I know from personal experience nonsensical posting doesn't necessarily mean mafia, but this isn't d3's first game, is it, so he ought to know better.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
April 27 2010 04:42 GMT
#1579
Oh, seeing as how BM did d3 I realize I should have done intoTheWow... I must be more tired than I thought. Ugh..... I might do be able to analyze him tonight or tomorrow, but I can't promise anything >_<
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 01 2010 11:27 GMT
#1756
First game for me, and as it turned out I was mafia, but really I could have just as well been town, I had no idea what I was doing most of the time. Very difficult game I think, trying to sort out who's useless and who's actually mafia. Not to mention the high amount of millers meant there was no way to be certain, even with rolechecks. This combined with the ban on town PMs meant the detectives were all but useless.

I think for a game like this to work, you'd need fewer people and a "1-decent-post" per day minimum requirement. Decent being something like 2-3 paragraphs. I feel like the mafia had a much too easy time.

I was pretty absent for the latter part of the game on account of my new job (yeah that wasn't a ruse, I really did get a job :p) but I think I might've still had a better participation average if I hadn't had to analyze over 30 people. It was too much work to do just for fun. I mean in this case I was a mafia and I wasn't supposed to help anyway, but even making false claims turned out to be a real chore sometimes.

Just my two cents, thanks alot to flame and quatol for hosting, to incognito and infi for pre-reading my useless posts before I posted them and to TL for providing a playing field. I might join for another mafia down the road when I have more time.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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