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On April 07 2010 09:27 Vivi57 wrote:
there was about a 0% chance I'd die last night. To tons of people, I was the most suspicious person in the game and the mafia aren't stupid
that's ridiculous. foolishness has iterated that he doesn't think you're suspicious, i don't think BM has recently accused you either, I know i haven't...
The only people who voiced suspicions were kf91, who is now dead, and cynan, who you are now voting for.
On April 07 2010 07:35 Vivi57 wrote:
The more I think about it, the more i think foolishness is innocent. In the last game where he was mafia, he was being extremely aggressive. This game, he's sitting there calmly trying to explain why he's innocent trying to diffuse problems instead of pointing fingers.
Combined with he fact that he's saying I'm innocent when I'm the most obvious and easiest target for the mafia to mislynch tonight, I'm going to withdraw my vote on foolishness.
Also, madnessman/cynan is a likely combo and madnessman didn't once mention cynan as a potential mafia candidate so I'm going to go ahead and vote cynan.
##vote CynanMachae##
I think cynan and madnessman are the mafia, but I need bm and foolishness to back me up here (as in, we're fucked if we split up our votes).
seems like a power play to me. you're asking foolishness to back you up, who earlier you were so convinced was mafia?! i'm gonna go with:
##Vote Vivi57##
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On April 07 2010 10:47 Bill Murray wrote:
all i know is i'm green, so if you're green, you can't count me with you.
and madnessman, with 5 people left, i don't think people give a fuck if i post 8 times in a row.
it's not like they were spam. i was building cases.
if you don't like it, we can lynch you.
"if you don't like it, we can lynch you." we? you and your partner you mean?
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dude BM, tbh, i feel as though your being pissed at me is affecting how you're playing the game.
gonna vote for the guy who's gonna get modkilled
##Vote CynanMachae##
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oh nvm. timing is fucked up. thought cynan was going to get modkilled lmao. thank god we have one more day.
##Vote Viv57##
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ahh my mistake. i had to be somewhere at 10, but when i checked back, i thought that the town was about to lose because cynan was going to get modkilled and me lynched. my rationale was that it would be better to lose only one person instead of two, because:
1. if cynan dies and flips green, mafia doesn't necessary outnumber the town if they attempt to hit whoever the medic is protecting.
2. i'd say im like 85% sure that cynan is town, but if i'm wrong and cynan is mafia, town has a chance to win still.
as opposed to:
1. me+cynan both getting killed off and mafia wins.
i see now that we have one more day, thank gawd, and there's still the chance to get a mafia lynched. so let me fix my vote:
##Vote Vivi57##
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what's F11? town DEFINITELY loses if cynan is town, and we both get killed. however, there is a chance town doesn't lose even if cynan is town, if only 1 person gets killed off and if there's a medic. it comes down to probability..no chance versus some chance.
also, foolishness didn't vote.
if he were mafia, me+cynan green, then if him+cynan get modkilled, i get lynched. = ur left with a member of the mafia. from ur comment i'm guessing ur not a medic. so u get hit at night, town loses.
cynan is mafia, me+foolishness green. him+cynan get modkilled, i get lynched. = same situation where ur left with one member of the town, and town loses.
all 3 of us are green=town loses.
of course there's the possibility that cynan/foolishness are mafia together. this doesn't seem like a likely pair to me. but if this were the case, irregardless of how i vote, if cynan+foolishness both had gotten modkilled, it wouldn't have mattered what i did because town would win anyway.
i thought this may have been a repeat of micro-mafia 1 where ppl just didn't show up, but i don't think im making terrible assumptions...in terms of PROBABILITY of town winning, it would've helped our chances.
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well it's not like he's definitely going to get modkilled. i just assumed so because i thought the day was ending at 10pm est today, and my tl page being on japanese time didn't help.
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im guessing vivi is going to jump on this faster than a your mom joke. in any case, im hoping we'll have more activity and get to see more posting tomorrow.
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I made a comment and BM wasn't very happy about it.
On April 07 2010 23:21 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 21:20 Bill Murray wrote:
i find it suspicious of some things you wouldn't notice at first assuming vivi and foolishness are both mafia: vivi tried to get a quick day 1 lynch on me by throwing a vote on me before I was active based upon me not posting yet. That'd be fine if people wouldn't do it, but since it's me, he probably hoped for a quick lynch of someone he knew was town (remember, this is assuming they're mafia).
On pages 7, 8 Foolishness and Vivi both try to start different wagons. Vivi tries to start one on L, and Foolishness tries to start one on RoL. Innocent? possibly, but let's look at it from the perspective that they're mafia. Wouldn't they want veterans to get bandwagoned? Yes. Yes, they would. Okay I'm going reiterate what I said. If Vivi and I are both mafia, that would mean we would have had staged the whole accusation/defense between the two of us. Do you really think the mafia would go through such an elaborate plan? Maybe, but given the fact that there have been some pairings that have been pretty chill at each other (madnessman/Cynan, BM/anyone but madnessman for example) I don't think this is likely. Also consider, given the fact that RoL died after he was putting constant pressure on me, I'd be the number one lynch candidate right now. After Vivi voted for me today, I thought there'd be a huge bandwagon on me, and I was practically shitting my pants cause I thought I'd died for sure and then town would lose. If we were both mafia, there'd be no reason for Vivi to vote for me like that, he could just easily put the pressure on someone else, and there'd be no reason for him to accuse me (especially since me having to defend myself just makes it more likely I'll slip up). And yeah, I want to hold Cynan to his word. So far he's half delivering. I think if he was posting more it would clear up a lot of confusion. I normally don't like voting early, but as BM said it's necessary to get things moving. Hopefully he'll talk some more and we can figure this out. ##Vote CynanMachae##
So I see that Foolishness is voting in alignment with Vivi...why doesn't that surprise me? I really don't think it would be a "huge, elaborate" plan for Vivi and Foolish to be working together. Why? Vivi defends Foolish when there's pressure on him, and only accuses him only when there's little to no chance he's going to get lynched. Sounds like a pretty good way for mafia members to disassociate themselves from each other. Also, I don't think we can take Vivi's voting pattern as coincidence. He puts himself in danger of being lynched, when Foolish is casting the deciding vote and could vote for him. If a regular townie thought Foolish was mafia, why would he put himself in a position where Foolish could easily get him lynched?
Looks like the game is in BM's hands now. It's wound up to be me and cynan voting against vivi and foolishness, with BM casting the deciding vote. I think I've brought up specific scenarios where vivi acts scummy, and acting as though he's in alignment with foolish, which would make voting for vivi a pretty safe bet. On the other hand, vivi and foolishness hardly provide solid reasons why they think cynan is scum. So I don't know what else I can say...Seems pretty clear cut to me, but BM I hope yo uthink all this over and make the right decision. Unless you're mafia then we're screwed with you casting the final vote :/.
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eh. what's zona's policy in the case of a tie? -.^
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Haha I definitely lol'd at you being afk the entire game, and then coming out of nowhere and saying "im ready to bring it down to rape, ##vote foolishness##"
Thanks Zona!
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On April 08 2010 16:59 Bill Murray wrote:
ME? I'm the only one who didnt vote for a fucking townie in the end from the town.
MVP: Foolishness by far
LVP: CynanMachae
On April 08 2010 11:01 Bill Murray wrote:
fuck it ##vote vivi57##
On April 08 2010 11:12 Bill Murray wrote:
is it too late to vote for cynanmachae
haha yes gj.
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