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Ace
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Ace
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And yes I think the most active posters might be green. Still think citizen is scum though. But looking at the 2 quick votes I'm not ruling out RoL. | ||
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Ace
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Explain how this makes sense? So ok. Myself and citizen are the most active players. You guys lynch me and I flip green, then citizen being the only active poster is killed and flips green. So what do we do next? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 28 2010 05:00 citi.zen wrote: It's not an issue. If the town screws up this lynching the game is over. I've discussed why before. Why I continue to think Ace is the best candidate: wrong on the vivi argument; keeps ignoring posts, preferring vagueness and calling me "scummy" instead of discussing anything of substance. That said, Ace is known to be impatient with bad players (vivi?). Also, if he is green and accused by me it's only natural he would feel I'm red. So in the end I feel there is a 50% chance Ace is red. This sucks, given it's now or never. Still, picking someone else would be even more of a crapshoot. The hugely lucky Mafia + inactive town means there is nothing more I can do. and this is the bullshit I'm talking about. TOWN PAY ATTENTION! 1.) I am not wrong on the vivi argument. You asked my opinion and I stated it. How is it that all of a sudden it's purely wrong even though you voted for Vivi? Whether you were at work or not isn't even a relevant excuse. We can't prove that. The point is YOU had a vote on the dead medic so you are responsible just as much as I am. 2.) Keep ignoring posts? I respond to your accusations every time and in fact have proven you wrong. Remember how you claimed being your posting level is keeping the game active, but when I said the same thing you just blew it off? 3.) Not discussing anything of substance? Hello? I'm the one trying to keep the game going. You've asked me about Vivi, RoL has tried to have some sort of lopsided discussion with me and I've posted about everything from lynching lurkers to lynching unproved claimers. Your statement here is a lie. 4.) You say there's a 50% chance I'm mafia and it's now or never. So you aren't even sure I'm mafia and yet you think it's better to lynch me because picking someone else would be a crapshoot. Well isn't lynching me a crapshoot if you aren't even sure?! ##vote citizen I'm convinced citizen is scum. Even more so by the fast vote out of no where by RebirthofLegend. Then after 40 hours of being afk nemy (o hai!) shows up with a bs vote on me. That's 3 votes on me and no votes on anyone else since the day post and no one else finds this suspect? You're kidding right? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 28 2010 15:16 citi.zen wrote: How does this suggestion not bother anyone else? Going into the night with a no lynch makes it 4 v 2 on day 3. No DT = no sure lynch. Also, the two mafia votes count more and more as there are fewer townies. ehh? You've admitted that you aren't even sure who you think is Mafia right? The "I'm 50% sure Ace is Mafia" line. The fact that you aren't sure and STILL want to lynch someone is exactly why I called you on it. If we lynch a townie, we lose 2. There is no medic so a townie gets killed tonight. What i'm saying is if you aren't even sure then it makes sense to vote for a no lynch and try again tomorrow. Killing people just for the sake of killing them is exactly why I'm keeping my vote on you. I've responded to your claims about Vivi and yet you say I'm not posting content. You blame me for Vivi's death and yet you also have a vote on him, even using an excuse to make yourself look like you are less responsible. Point of the matter is you've been tunnel visioning me all game making it LOOK like you're scumhunting when you've even admitted that you weren't sure I'm scum. Then when I brought up the point that I got hit with 2 votes very fast, then a third from nemy you just brushed it off with inane logic saying because there are 2 Mafia in the game those votes aren't scummy. Right... People lets be real here. The only reason I'm under suspicion is because I'm Ace. No one wants to admit it but because I'm a good player and didn't die Night 1 is the only reason I'm being voted on. You have no case on me. The best thing anyone has is that I voted for Vivi57 and thats it. It only seemed bad because he flipped Medic and there is no way I could have known that. Look back at the beginning of the game - I always had my serious votes on him. It's been nothing but a smear campaign to undermine me when you all know I think Vivi is useless. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
johnnyspazz and haster need to post more because obviously lurking in a small game is really bad for the town. Fishball if you aren't convinced anyone is Mafia I think we should go with a no lynch. Getting 2 innocents killed is disastrous. I'd rather us not randomly kill a townie and have no clue about what's going. One death is much better than the guaranteed two if we mislynch here. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
So wait let me get this straight. I'm discrediting citizen even though I've pointed out that his reasons that I'm Mafia are that I'm wrong in debate and that I voted for the same guy he voted for? And lynching an innocent townie today is much better than no lynching? Are you serious? Of course, me trying to stay alive is scummy because getting killed is clearly the thing a Townie would do. Are you reading? So Citizen currently has 4 votes on him, I have 3. Citizen is definitely in line for lynching first, but I'm the one that's scum when I'm arguing that we should be considering the No Lynch so we could go into tomorrow 4 v 2 instead of 3 v 2. Right. I'm the one making bad arguments and bad logic here. I'm advocating saving people while you just want somebody to die screaming do something when you aren't exactly the most active person here. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
You just note how you obtained the first two votes with people posting opinions. No proving wrong being done. There isn't a point to prove here. This is telling Townies to look at how fast I got quick voted. Haven't proved anything except arguing the logic of lynching one you you. Seems like you are just trying to make sure you live and are doing everything you can to paint yourself in a positive light, I mean who cares if we don't lynch Citizen, as long as we don't lynch you, right? Mafia thinking. No shit I'd try to make sure I live. If we put 4 votes on you would you just lay down and be like oh well gg. No, you'd try to live. Especially if you know the case against you is laughable. Of course you conveniently want anyone to die right? Nothing has been said here, except you rather a no lynch, then a lynch you. Which would put us in the exact same situation just allowing the mafia to put themselves in a gaming winning position on that day by merely manipulating the lynch because of the inactive town. No lynch today is dumb, we need someone fucking gone. More to you just wanting anyone to die. I'd rather a No Lynch than a Mislynch. When you mislynch today it's one less townie tomorrow. You keep IGNORING this point. You aren't even trying to debate it. It's "we need someone dead" and you aren't even contemplating that a dead townie leaves 3 v 2 tomorrow. Kill anybody and as long as someone dies it's ok? Right. I suppose its important that he tried to vote someone else (lawl) Who cares? But what points have you even disproved at this point? Everyone was on board with lynching Vivi until he claimed. To look up the exact post, he claimed with 3 hours left. Giving no real time for discussion. I can't blame you for that, Vivi was stupid to wait that long when it seemed obvious he was dead. I've disproved all your points while you keep posting lies. Everyone was not on board for lynching Vivi. here, look at the votes: ace citi.zen johnnyspazz haster27 Of those people I was the most strongly for it and you know it. I already explained I don't take Day 1 Doc claims as proof of innocence and I've said that countless times in other games. My argument was that knowing this you can't hold me accountable for Vivi flipping medic. I can't know that information as scum. Citizen was saying I was wrong about the Vivi situation so therefore I must be scum. He asked me about it, I replied and then there's a hate wagon. I am 90% sure, does that make it better? Stop attacking nonpoints. You are posting nothing, and are our best candidate today, so just die with honor. Right. Because 90% sure is much better than 50% sure. See you aren't even reading. This IS a critical point. It shows you two aren't even sure who is Mafia and would rather kill anyone. That is clearly a bad idea and that's why I keep calling citizen on it and now you. It's like when I flip town you'll say "well I wasn't so sure anyway" and absolve responsibility. Sorry, you and your scum partner are dying. Hell you aren't even reading the rules because a double lynch doesn't exist. You won't even acknowledge the fact that you and citizen quick voted on shoddy points and have spent all your energy and tried to paint me scum as soon as you got the chance. But the entire town must be stupid because citizen has 4 votes on him right? | ||
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Ace
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If I was Mafia I'd just be content letting him die, or any townie for that matter. If I was scum why would I go into a situation 4 v 2 when surely citizen would get lynched, flip townie and I could go into the next Day 3 v 2? Please explain this. 4 Townies vs 2 Scum is WAY better than 3 Townies vs 2 Scum. What extra information do you see coming out of lynching an innocent today that puts us at a better position? The Mafia are killing someone tonight regardless. I don't know why you keep ignoring this. I'm discrediting citizen? He's posting blatantly wrong information and tried to use the Vivi discussion against me. Am I supposed to just be like you know what, you're right. I'm guilty for getting Vivi killed when he himself has a vote on the guy? Lol ok Rol, you sure are making sense here. Right now it's either myself or citizen. Jspazz nor haster are in any position to get lynched so your argument is irrelevant. However just for sake of showing you why it makes no sense if either of us get lynched and flip town what new information are you going to glean with it? You're going to go into the next day with 3 townies instead of 4. How in the hell is that a good situation? You'll be in LYLO immediately. Then you make the mistake of saying well if one of them flips green, the other is definitely red so let's kill him! Seriously, I'm starting to think you just want anyone dead. ##unvote citizen## ##vote RoL## I may have thought citizen was scummy before, and I still do. However, I think you're recent behavior is actually far worse. I think citizen was wrong on his posts about me but I never got the feeling he wanted anyone dead. You just don't care who the fuck dies. Town, we've got until 10PM ET. Read Rebirth's posts please. Hell, we can all even discuss the current No Lynch vs Lynch option. I'm not liking RoL's kill anyone attitude. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 29 2010 00:58 citi.zen wrote: I am not even sure where to start. There are only 2 reds, but far more people not making sense - meaning that pointing out inconsistencies will not help me get the mafia. Can't congratulate the mafia, this is primarily the town's own doing. So screw it, there is no more I can do here. Go ahead and lynch me. You've still got till 10 PM ET. I've also unvoted you as I think RoL is actually far more disgusting. | ||
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Ace
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Townie lynch = 3 Townies vs 2 Mafia next day. No Lynch = 4 Townies vs 2 Mafia next day. Instead of having to convince 1 player on a mislynch scum now have to convince 2. How is this not important? We aren't killing people for the sake of killing them. Where was I not clear on why killing one of you gives us more information? If one of us gets lynched and we flip town, what's your other course of action? I said you can't just assume the other person is automatically Mafia. Hell we could both be Townies. Just because we are arguing doesn't mean one of us has to be scum. Your other statement: Lynching today almost guarantees a good lynch tomorrow. Is part of the reason I asked this. If we lynch today and flip town then how is that a guaranteed Mafia lynch tomorrow? | ||
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Ace
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Go into tomorrow 4 vs 2 or 3 vs 2. Don't just say "I'm gonna die" and give up. Play to win this shit. | ||
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Ace
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you're kidding right? ##unvote rol ## vote citizen | ||
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##vote citizen## | ||
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RoL is a confirmed townie but he was also wrong. Citizen was a confirmed townie also, was he right then too? Of course, you voted for him to die too. In fact you 1 line quoted part of my post and said "I'm convinced!" and never came back until after the hammer fell. ##vote johnnyspazz## | ||
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