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johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
March 27 2010 00:20 GMT
#961
no i sent a pm like "i shoot both nukes" so im guessing ace is just going to disregard that PM
so far we have these facts on me:
1) i can nuke starting on day 2
2) i more than one anti-nuke and i am saving myself
3) i am not japan
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
March 27 2010 00:21 GMT
#962
On March 27 2010 09:17 haster27 wrote:
Does that mean you already sent the PM? Why would you send a PM defending L first then you?

i meant that mafia might hit me to get rid of my anti-nuking abilities.
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 27 2010 00:23 GMT
#963
On March 27 2010 09:21 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 09:17 haster27 wrote:
Does that mean you already sent the PM? Why would you send a PM defending L first then you?

i meant that mafia might hit me to get rid of my anti-nuking abilities.

voulez vous coucher avec moi?
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 27 2010 00:25 GMT
#964
Ahhhh I hate super big long games with tons of pages of postings >_<

Anyways, why are we letting tree.hugger live? Guy is obviously on a personal vendetta against L (I mean he just nuked his ass) and keeps bickering about how he played last game. Why not nuke tree.hugger?
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 00:26 GMT
#965
nemY// he has declared his intention to retaliate nuke if any Townie apparently interferes. Lynching is the only way Town can get rid of him safely.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 27 2010 00:29 GMT
#966
and this is why the mafia's going to win the game... we set up rules and idiots think they are above them and break them. way to go tree.hugger.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 27 2010 00:32 GMT
#967
On March 27 2010 09:26 haster27 wrote:
nemY// he has declared his intention to retaliate nuke if any Townie apparently interferes. Lynching is the only way Town can get rid of him safely.

If we react to nukes with lynches, we're just going to see a wall of people throwing off nukes. This is why I said we had to nuke RoL in response to his initial bullshittery. Even tree.hugger admits that next day could be the exact same asshattery and that his example is a bad one to follow.

The only solution to this is to dissuade both teams from firing nukes by NUKING THE NUKER as per my original plan. And not "maybe i'll nuke him" Immediate 2 nukes launched at him. Town members will accept death. Mafia members will throw off obvious anti-town nukes and we shoot those down. This was the only concrete solution ever in play; Its how real world MAD works and is why you and I aren't mutated and living in a post apocalyptic sci-fi zombie thriller.

Additionally, if someone wants to save me, do it after RoL's nuke hits or is stopped so that we don't get a second wave of retard driven nukes from Versatile. The first nuke should land in around 2 hours, though, so if you're going to be afk, might as well make the move before you're gone. .

As for tree.hugger: High road, my friend. I only respond to new content :3.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 27 2010 00:44 GMT
#968
On March 27 2010 09:29 nemY wrote:
and this is why the mafia's going to win the game... we set up rules and idiots think they are above them and break them. way to go tree.hugger.

Well, town has avenues open to deal with it, but no one's stepping up to the plate.

Lets discuss why tree.hugger wants to kill me in the first place though, because his reasons are clearly false, emotional or dumb.

We initially had a rape train aimed at RoL's head. I offered to throw fake nukes in order to give us time to shift votes, but Ace basically rewrote the rules to prevent me from doing so, but maybe someone anti-nuked or some shit prior. Caller's still not producing very much which is very, very odd and a sign that we probably shoulda let the bomb drop but whatever, maybe he's a dt or some shit.

In attempting to get RoL to not soak our town lynch, I proposed that we kill people who were on the list to kill me, like you, fishball, versatile. I looked at all of your behaviors in past games and determined that the person who stood out most this game was tree.hugger. tree.hugger is not following his typical pro-town or town lurker play; he's playing the complete opposite. Generally speaking tree.hugger was always willing to vote with the town in colaborative efforts or to blend in.

So i said we should kill him over RoL. Shit failed. RoL died. I maintained that he should probably die tomorrow. Then tree.hugger comes out, and like happened in last game a smear campaign started up against me from a bunch of the usual suspects. Well, the usual suspects besides tree.hugger, because normally he doesn't inject himself into heated debates as a town member.

Putting the trigger to his head made him flip and start posting incredibly violently against me. I specifically asked Ace if he was going to take action or if I could reply in kind and the moment I did, lo and behold, everything I say is not "aggressive" or "misleading". That said, no one actually bothered to deal with the actual content of my posts. Besides fishball partially, but the majority of his responses, like stated above were rehashes of prior arguments that I had already broken.

When I essentially told tree.hugger I wasn't going to back off and lobbed the exact same insults at him that he lobbed at me, he threw a nuke at me. He then attempted to justify it on the grounds that I'm a bad guy.

I've suggested that tree.hugger gets nuked. If he's town he will not want to nuke back: he admits immediately that he's willing to die for the choice he's made, but he refuses to get nuked for it. Why? That just doesn't make sense. The only alternative option is that if the nuke against me is shot down, tree.hugger wants to shoot ANOTHER when the next day starts if I'm not killed by mafia. He's essentially holding the town hostage. By his own admission of counter nuking, he's stating that he has more nukes. Why would we let him fire another off? Well, because we're too afraid that he'll retaliate? He's going to launch another at WHOMEVER HE WANTS tomorrow and all the arguments he's presented here for why I shouldn't be saved will apply again, yet he admits those are all bullshit from tomorrow onwards.

I really don't see why there's even a shred of conversation here. Nuke the kid, throw me some star wars and lets call it a day.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 27 2010 01:17 GMT
#969
Alert! Alert! Alert!


[image loading]


General, sometime today we received reports that a missile was fired anonymously at Elemenope! We have no idea who did it, but there is a strong indicator that the warheads came from North Korea! They will strike down Elemenope at 3:30 KST!

Missiles launched by Rol towards johnnyspazz will strike at 11:15 KST March26th.

Missiles launched by tree.hugger towards L will strike at 11:55 KST March 26th

Missiles launched by North Korea towards Elemenope will strike at 3:30 KST




Nukes in the air: 3
Nukes detonated: 0
Radiation levels: very low


Day currently ends at 3:30 KST
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 01:18 GMT
#970
wtf.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
March 27 2010 01:22 GMT
#971
Really now?
In DotA you could
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
March 27 2010 01:28 GMT
#972
I'm going to go with my instinct and say XeliN launched the nuke in which case I ask: why?
In DotA you could
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 01:31 GMT
#973
Okay, how we handle these first day nukes as a Town will probably determine our success in the game. As for the new nuke, it is clearly nuke launched by Mafia, meaning that this is the first clear-cut opportunity Town has to use their anti-nukes for their intended purpose (protection of Townie from Mafia nukes). There are possibility that this could be elaborate sham where Mafia nukes Mafia intending to trick Townie, but I highly doubt it because "secret" nuke power is such an powerful asset to the Mafia team- they are more likely to maximize their profit using this power; though, I am concerned about timing of this nuke. Why now and why him?
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 01:33 GMT
#974
On March 27 2010 10:28 Elemenope wrote:
I'm going to go with my instinct and say XeliN launched the nuke in which case I ask: why?


Why suddenly Xelin out of all people?
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
March 27 2010 01:40 GMT
#975
I agree with haster, third nuke is probably a mafia nuke, and it should be shot down.
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
March 27 2010 01:40 GMT
#976
so, gogo bill murray or someone o:

And oh my god, will day 1 ever end?
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
March 27 2010 01:52 GMT
#977
On March 27 2010 10:33 haster27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 10:28 Elemenope wrote:
I'm going to go with my instinct and say XeliN launched the nuke in which case I ask: why?


Why suddenly Xelin out of all people?



ctrl+f'd his posts, saw he generally started posting during the day at around 3-4KST in this thread, he stated he was suspicious of me with no real reasoning, and he has been very inactive due to recent turn of events. My guess it's another one of those "I'm curious" ala tree.hugger.

The guy's only reasonable contribution is the suggestion of insta-lynch for someone who nukes unsupported. He then goes into an argument with fishball over a hypothetical situation or wifom or something. He puts a vote on Abenson, citing that inactivity is something that can't be allowed.

He then abstains his vote, and later puts it on me, reasoning - because I advocated lynching Abenson to see if OpZ was in fact telling the truth or not. I later stated this was because at the time, all we had was OpZ's word on the matter, Abenson hadn't confirmed. Abenson later comes in, votes, goes off, then comes back later confirming. As such, I stated that I'm perfectly fine with the claim that OpZ and Abenson are in fact Masons and I have cleared them of suspicion for now. Keep in mind that he himself suspected OpZ for being scum based on language OpZ used, and then retracted his suspicion when OpZ made the roleclaim. I made similar retractions, only after the other party (which is pretty fucking important in making a Mason claim), responded as such.

He votes RoL, then later removes his vote, even though he was the one who advocated lynching of people who fire nukes. Really? He hasn't contributed anything of late since these more recent nukes which makes me highly suspicious of him.

Basically, my instinct is that -
a) he has proposed two ideas, one being that we autovote lynch unsupported nukes, the other being that inactivity should be punished
b) he has accused me
c) he starts posting at around 3-4KST and continues afterwards into the evening
and d) he abstained the vote on the unsupported launch of RoL, and is currently contributing nothing to town discussion; two things in direct opposite of what his main points were earlier

leads me to believe that he launched this nuke, especially given that the person who launched this is anonymous and can't be held accountable for it.

Either way - FoS on XeliN, whether he launched this nuke or not.
In DotA you could
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 27 2010 01:55 GMT
#978
What does FoS mean? and no, I did not launch this nuke on you, I personally would be happy to see it hit though.
Adonai bless
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
March 27 2010 02:07 GMT
#979
On March 27 2010 10:55 XeliN wrote:
What does FoS mean? and no, I did not launch this nuke on you, I personally would be happy to see it hit though.


Finger of Suspicion. Perhaps you'd like to explain your actions then about
The guy's only reasonable contribution is the suggestion of insta-lynch for someone who nukes unsupported. He then goes into an argument with fishball over a hypothetical situation or wifom or something. He puts a vote on Abenson, citing that inactivity is something that can't be allowed.

He then abstains his vote, and later puts it on me, reasoning - because I advocated lynching Abenson to see if OpZ was in fact telling the truth or not. I later stated this was because at the time, all we had was OpZ's word on the matter, Abenson hadn't confirmed. Abenson later comes in, votes, goes off, then comes back later confirming. As such, I stated that I'm perfectly fine with the claim that OpZ and Abenson are in fact Masons and I have cleared them of suspicion for now. Keep in mind that he himself suspected OpZ for being scum based on language OpZ used, and then retracted his suspicion when OpZ made the roleclaim. I made similar retractions, only after the other party (which is pretty fucking important in making a Mason claim), responded as such.

He votes RoL, then later removes his vote, even though he was the one who advocated lynching of people who fire nukes. Really? He hasn't contributed anything of late since these more recent nukes which makes me highly suspicious of him.


since you seem to have time to dodge questions and ask questions that could be googled.
In DotA you could
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-27 02:27:04
March 27 2010 02:22 GMT
#980
[image loading]





General! We be havin' confirmed that th' missiles headin' towards johnnyspazz be indeed nuclear! HURRY UP AN' EVACUATE!


[image loading]



Too late, th' nuke be armed an' primed fer detonation. 'Tis too late t' disarm them as they be havin' entered th' country.johnnyspazz be nuked off th' face o' th' Earth. Ya landlubber whut deserves the black spot!


johnnyspazz (USA, pro town, Vanilla Townie) has been obliterated.






Missiles launched by tree.hugger towards L will strike at 11:55 KST March 26th

Missiles launched by North Korea towards Elemenope will strike at 3:30 KST




Nukes in the air: 2
Nukes detonated: 1
Radiation levels: very low


Day currently ends at 3:30 KST
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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