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haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 23:17 GMT
#710
My God, I am being stupid today. I like this plan. Remove two suspect, one rofl player, and the longer we try to extend the days, less control the Mafia has over the death in Town. However, because of implications of this we need to delay this until the last moment- discussion is essential.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 23:26 GMT
#714
08:54 KST

We have exactly 28 minutes to discuss this.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 23:28 GMT
#717
On March 26 2010 08:27 ~OpZ~ wrote:
8:54 KST...Very shortly

I don't think we can do it...And no body wont post they're here...


We can do it (assuming there are nuke-wielder here), but without discussion we're going to RoL'd.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 23:31 GMT
#719
On March 26 2010 08:29 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2010 08:26 haster27 wrote:
08:54 KST

We have exactly 28 minutes to discuss this.

Nope.

And since I see no rules against this:

##nuke: L

I have no nukes, sup. While I'd love to keep the fact that I have no nukes a secret to dissuade morans from throwing nuclear bomblets at my precious face, I will have to do what I have to do.

If we ever need a day extended, I can now bomb myself.



Jesus Christ.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 23:32 GMT
#720
(in a good way)
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 23:36 GMT
#722
I'm worried about Ace typing in something like "L launched a normal missile, and since it has been launched from its country, it just took 1 seconds to return back and blast the hell out of the idiotic base that had ordered to bomb itself" because this is game-breaking; the person about to be lynched can literally keep doing this eternally when he do not have any nukes.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 23:43 GMT
#726
On March 26 2010 08:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2010 08:36 haster27 wrote:
I'm worried about Ace typing in something like "L launched a normal missile, and since it has been launched from its country, it just took 1 seconds to return back and blast the hell out of the idiotic base that had ordered to bomb itself" because this is game-breaking; the person about to be lynched can literally keep doing this eternally when he do not have any nukes.


Touche...But they really can't. They can only fire one nuke per 24 hours. And at the end of the 24 hours its instalynch.
And if that was a problem..
L could set up a nuke at me if he'd like. My proud nation is not afraid of nuclear missile strikes! fake harmless missiles!


haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 26 2010 00:30 GMT
#758
This is disappointing, but we have now established L has no nukes unless he is some uber-genius wh o made this move expecting Ace to interfere- and I don't think even he can plan that much. So now we can use L as pinch-launcher whenever something new comes up when the day almost runs out.

And nice acting RoL. You had power to kill one of your suspects all along. I suspect you would have went for Zona considering he was your next suspect? I know you are pissed at how he bandwagoned you, but he so far didn't seem any anti-town so please do not hit him with your powers.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 26 2010 00:41 GMT
#762
On March 26 2010 09:39 d3_crescentia wrote:
Wait, what is a vengeful townie?


I think if he is killed, he is allowed to kill one person of his choice. REVENGE!!
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 26 2010 14:58 GMT
#896
....Two launched nukes. ... ...


Okay, what we should do now is lynch Tree.hugger day 2 except in off chance his nuke manage to hit L and he flips red. There should NOT be nukes launched against him because he explicitly stated his intention to revenge-nuke and creating more opportunities to waste anti-nukes is simply idiotic. I think even Tree.hugger will agree with what I wrote above considering that he had stated he will lynch himself should this gambit fail.

Now onto the matter of two air-born nukes, for myself I would like to see nuke toward L intercepted and one toward JohnnySpazz unhindered. JohnnySpazz seems to be decent suspect which was being advocated by confirmed Townie ("Abenson") and is not impressing me with his posts. Also what is up with his vague roleclaim? Either not roleclaim at all, or reveal full extent of your abilities so Town can make better decision about what to do with you.

On the contrary, I would like nuke toward L intercepted for the same reason I suggested shooting down Caller's nuke; telling the non-concensus nukers that they are not the above Town's law. Hell if the people are not getting message from RoL lynch, then we'll just have to force feed this simple fact over and over again until they hurl. Moreover L would likely have been voted out day 1 if I had not initiated bandwagon against Abenson to exactly prevent this- I think the fact that he was bandwagoned against to near death itself proves that he is likely Town-oriented.

On March 26 2010 23:20 Abenson wrote:
Hi guys...
I have water polo tournament (provincials, Yay!) this weekend and I'm just about to leave for it. Unfortunately, the coaches have placed a ban on all computers, video games, etc. So I will be unable to bring my laptop.
Therefore I will be inactive for the next 3 days, sorry for the inconvenience. You may replace me if you have to.
I apologize again for this and I hope the rest of you have fun.


Also, this is a great opportunity; getting a good player into Abenson's spot will really revitalize the effectiveness of Mason.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 26 2010 16:19 GMT
#901
I, and I think the Town as well, just find you more suspicious than L. Also, what am I supposed to do with that nuke? As long as we don't at least show effort to shoot down the nukes of non-concensus nukers, there will always be people suddenly coming out of woodwork to singlehandedly launch nuke against someone he is highly convinced of being Mafia. There will be always someone fully convinced about validity of his suspect list, and unless we as a Town set our feet down and say "unless you discuss your nuke never gonna matter lolol" unwanted nukes are going to keep on coming.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 26 2010 22:58 GMT
#942
Seriously, where is the unanimous mood the Town shared against nuke at early stages of the game? At then everyone agreed that non-concensus nuker was bad, and only matter up to debate was whether we should counter-nuke or lynch him. I simply cannot understand why people are suddenly changing their stances to say that nuking is fine as long as it is fired against "unconfirmed" Townie.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 00:17 GMT
#960
On March 27 2010 09:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
... wow i'm being really dumb
okay thank you for pointing out for me
although i think i'm probably dead when night comes


Does that mean you already sent the PM? Why would you send a PM defending L first then you?
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 00:26 GMT
#965
nemY// he has declared his intention to retaliate nuke if any Townie apparently interferes. Lynching is the only way Town can get rid of him safely.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 01:31 GMT
#973
Okay, how we handle these first day nukes as a Town will probably determine our success in the game. As for the new nuke, it is clearly nuke launched by Mafia, meaning that this is the first clear-cut opportunity Town has to use their anti-nukes for their intended purpose (protection of Townie from Mafia nukes). There are possibility that this could be elaborate sham where Mafia nukes Mafia intending to trick Townie, but I highly doubt it because "secret" nuke power is such an powerful asset to the Mafia team- they are more likely to maximize their profit using this power; though, I am concerned about timing of this nuke. Why now and why him?
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 01:33 GMT
#974
On March 27 2010 10:28 Elemenope wrote:
I'm going to go with my instinct and say XeliN launched the nuke in which case I ask: why?


Why suddenly Xelin out of all people?
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 02:58 GMT
#1002
L got saved; very good.

On the other note one thing that concerns me about NK nuke is that it EXTENDS the day. This is significant because it is beneficial for Mafia to get shorter days, which allows them to control the death in Town via NK. Instead this anonymous nuke has extended the day for four more hours. I think this suggests few possibilities:

1) NK is the third party.
2) Mafia wants the day to extend; as in, it is beneficial for Mafia to have Townie launch more nukes during the day 1.

I think second possibility is more likely since the third party with such aggressive ability yet independent of Mafia can only be SK, and I doubt SK would exercise his ability so early when his goal (death of all players) are so long-term. This means we should DEFINITELY be careful when launching nukes, as it IS possible for Mafia to benefit by random-nuke launching Townies unlike they themselves seem to believe.

1- Elimination of Town nuke and anti-nuke power.
2- Town friendly nuke kill.
3- More chaos and panic.

This is why I am suddenly more reluctant to nuke tree.hugger because if tree.hugger is Mafia, he would have gotten chance to launch one more free nuke by surviving through day 2. Of course, we still need to lynch him via anti-nuke policy but I think nuke should be better spent on other possible suspects if they must be launched.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 03:27 GMT
#1017
On March 27 2010 12:24 XeliN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 12:10 L wrote:
On March 27 2010 12:06 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On March 27 2010 12:04 L wrote:
On March 27 2010 12:00 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
The way I see it LMNOP is so obviously pro town that the NK nukes are 99% sure to come from mafia.

Given how Ace loves retarded roles, its entirely possible that NK has no affiliation. Either way, LMNOP was railing decently hard against XeliN which means XeliN is probably being set up.


This is true. I should have said 99% not town. It's possible it's a trick to get us to go after XeLiN, though i haven't seen him be particularly helpful anyway. regardless, i'm pretty sure we have to lynch tree hugger tomorrow?

We should kill him before he can nuke again. If he is indeed mafia, there would be nothing stopping him from attempting to rub another out. Worst case; he absorbs anti-nukes.

I'm not entirely certain that he's mafia given how ballsy his move was, but the only thing I'm sure of is that we shouldn't be pussies about counter-nuking people who don't agree with our anti-nuke position. If we aren't firm on that point, we simply can't dissuade nukes.


"Excuse me" was in reference mainly to this, should have quoted.


I think L was referring to tree.hugger, or am I missing something.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 16:48 GMT
#1065
So let's reiterate. If we follow the Town's initial nuke policy:

We definitely should save Elemenope who is very likely be target of Mafia nuke. I have already stated in my previous vote that Mafia will most likely use their anonymous nuke advantage to gain most profit, which is why they would choose to nuke Townie than Mafia.

We should save L who is currently being threatened by Versatile. He has been one of Town's most active contributors, have almost been bandwagoned to death, and I just love how most people are not arguing against the content of his post but his character.

We should save BM who is currently being threatened by Versatile, preferably by himself if he has more than one anti-nuke in his stockpile. BM has already used one nuke and one anti-nuke, and has declared intention to use another anti-nuke. This makes it likely that he possess more nuking and anti-nuking powers, and make him firm Mafia target in night 1. So BM should try to keep himself alive at all costs so that there are more opportunity for Town to use his abilities before he is removed from the game.

We definitely need to lynch Versatile day 2 as she is non-concensus nuker. This means bumping tree.hugger off the lynch list, but at least he has shown willingness to no longer nuke unlike Versatile who is currently berserk; it is clear that she would launch more of her nukes in the upcoming days. Considering the threat of retaliation nuke, day 2 lynch seem to be the most safe way Town has of removing her. In fact, we should not anti-nuke BM's nuke, so the Town can actually start to find and kill Mafia instead of having to kill idiotic nuking rogues.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 16:57 GMT
#1067
On March 28 2010 01:53 meeple wrote:
Was tree.hugger really high on the lynch list? I know he nuked without town consensus but technically the nuke got shot down.

As for lynching Versatile... well it's pretty obvious she's being fairly anti-town and just doing whatever the hell she wants to do... so I'd agree with lynching but I still have the same twinges of regret since we're not really any closer to bagging us some mafia.


We can only hope that there are indeed some Mafia nukers trying to cover themselves amidst the chaos created by non-concensus nukers. Actually, this is the point I have made in the previous about NK nuke people. The NK nuke extended the day, and has allowed Versatile-BM nuke situation to occur. From this I might believe Mafia want Townie to nuke the fuck out of each other contrary to nuker themselves think.
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