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Bill Murray
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On March 26 2010 04:02 Versatile wrote: if you keep typing @ me, i'll encourage your lynching, sir spam-a-lot. I couldn't care less. You've been flip flopping so hard in the past couple pages if it wouldn't be anti-town I'd nuke the shit out of you. | ||
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The last time that Nikon posted was before the nuke was even launched. What if we actually needed him to do something? Zona had said that those who voted for RoL (which Nikon did pre-nuke launch) needed to be around the thread in case we decided to shift our votes to someone else in case of a) the vote didnt get traction b) RoL decided to become active Well, A) was nothing to worry about. The vote was going through easily. B) happened in the wrong way, and we're here where we are today. The thing that irks me about Nikon is that Zona SPECIFICALLY said in a big wall of red text "if you are going to vote for RoL, be sure you can be back before midnight if you need to change your vote" Here, I'll give you a direct quote: On March 25 2010 07:40 Zona wrote: Anyone voting for RebirthOfLegend with us needs to be ready to switch back to another candidate if this choice doesn't gain traction, so we can obtain a majority vote to avoid a no lynch for day 1! If it's possible, try to spare some time to check back later today, before 12AM EST! On March 25 2010 07:37 Nikon wrote: Even tho Abenson hasn't replied, and it doesn't look like he will, the roleclaim seems legit. If by any chance he comes around tomorrow and says that he's not mason, it gives us an easy direction for a lynch. So... ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend 3 minutes apart. Sure, he may not have seen it, but if that's the case since he hasn't posted anything in about 22 fuckin hours, it warrants his lynching even more validity and viability. When he does post, he doesn't even really post a lot. I wouldn't mind his style if he would actually push to help the town with many posts that are a few sentences, but he has given us around 4 posts that are one to three lines of sucking up and agreeing with people who are designing policies. I wouldn't be surprised, with his lack of contribution, if he just refreshed the thread to a recent page and hopped on a voting bandwagon. The town does not need people like this alive. The fact that he's from bulgaria is just icing on the cake for me. If he responds to this, great. It's always good to have discussion of who to lynch. It's amazing to see people squirm over not dying, much like I did last game under the pressure of L after I did those last minute vote changes. Nikon's case is different, though. I don't want someone who we may need to have on our side later sitting AFK getting a muffin while his ghost doesn't cloak and nuke. If he gets defended like RoL has been, and flips red, we can shift our focus onto those who defended him or who pushed a swing in the other direction away from his lynch. | ||
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Bill Murray
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"First of all, you're criticism of my faulty logic is certainly correct, " Catching up on the thread, on page 41. | ||
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Bill Murray
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On March 26 2010 13:59 L wrote: That doesn't change the fact that attempting to kill someone off zero evidence and purely because of your feelings from prior games is a douchebag move. But yeah, keep scapegoating. Totally pro-town move. No offense, but how is this any different than what you did to me for ten days? | ||
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Bill Murray
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Tree.Hugger: That was not the best course of action that you could have pursued. Just because L was putting FoS on you, you didn't have to crack under the pressure. I understand that many people would be mod-killed for what he said to you, but that doesn't warrant you ruining the game for the rest of the world here! I would like to live, while having the green earth prevail; however, I care more about the world winning than myself. My nation doesn't have any special abilities, but I could counter-nuke someone if you all would want me to. WHAT I PROPOSE: Lynch Abenson solely to give the town someone to build a circle around with ~OpZ~. I find it highly unlikely that masons would be on different sides given the format that we are using. | ||
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Bill Murray
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On March 27 2010 01:19 haster27 wrote: I, and I think the Town as well, just find you more suspicious than L. Also, what am I supposed to do with that nuke? As long as we don't at least show effort to shoot down the nukes of non-concensus nukers, there will always be people suddenly coming out of woodwork to singlehandedly launch nuke against someone he is highly convinced of being Mafia. There will be always someone fully convinced about validity of his suspect list, and unless we as a Town set our feet down and say "unless you discuss your nuke never gonna matter lolol" unwanted nukes are going to keep on coming. speak for yourself I find them equally not suspicious at all, and have labeled them both argumentative townies | ||
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Bill Murray
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Also, I'm waiting on L.M.N.O.P. to come out with a huge wall of text. | ||
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Bill Murray
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I personally want to save them both, regardless of their color, as I want to save the ToD. I know the argument is "well, it's only a couple nukes (the first few that could hit of the game)", but we can't continue to think this way. | ||
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Bill Murray
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on a serious note, you really have been epically-lurking and badgering people, while supporting very anti-town and splitting ideas and concepts. you're saying that if someone anti-nukes someone else, that you're just going to nuke again to raise the ToD? Even if that's not your goal, that is what will happen. The town would do well to keep everyone alive, as I guarantee that we have a lot more members than the mafia does within our ranks. If everyone survives, we can begin to see vote-trains, ties, who defends who, etc. that will point to mafia. It is not advantageous to play the way you are playing right now, and I would advise you to either change it, or shut up. | ||
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Bill Murray
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On March 27 2010 05:35 tree.hugger wrote: Well, yes that's exactly what I'm arguing. I mean, the nuke's in the air, no point in second guessing the past, eh? At least you actually understood something I said for once. (But I thought you were going to ignore me?) I've tried to provide a reason. If L is mafia, then we should let the mafia save him. We should not waste town anti-nukes on people who are not confirmed townies. But even more so, Bill, what the hell were you thinking with that? I've only said it like 10 times, you really must not read the thread, and this makes me question your nuking even more. You've made a huge mistake to claim your possession of anti-nukes, BM. There was nothing suggesting you would be killed in the night, until now. Which means that if you aren't killed tonight, I'll be damn suspicious of you. And at that, to be honest, I really don't see an out for you. You've essentially requested to be killed in the night, and the choice is whether or not you feel like using your powers. I believe that we let the nuke fall on L, and see what color he is, and whether or not anyone stages an intervention on his behalf. But in claiming to posses anti-nukes, you've essentially destroyed the possibility of the town using them later in the game for our own benefits. That's like roleclaiming to be the last medic in the game. That's the most unproductive thing ANYONE has done this game. Goddammit. | ||
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Bill Murray
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he is playing the exact same way he did last game, and if he is red, hurray, if he is not, whatever im going to save him if you all don't like it, or want to lynch me, go ahead. i'll withhold my nukes if i'm lynched | ||
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i am vanilla green for the most part. | ||
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Bill Murray
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L and LMNOP to me are both very pro-town this game. L has his own personal way of helping the town when he is green/blue, which is to put heavy FoS onto one person. That's all hes been doing this game. He has been going after tree.hugger much the same way that he went after me when I made two stupid crucial voteswings that looked like they resulted in both an innocent death, and a botched election. In my defense, I wasn't sure if he was red last game, as I wasn't all that familiar with his style when hes pro-town because the only game I had played with him previously to that one he was red. I do not really have a read on many other people, and I don't know if I even really trust LMNOP as much as I trust L. I could be wrong, I've been wrong in the past. I've posted a list of 5 names where only 1/5 were correct (Malongo), but many reputable players have made a similar mistake (showtime, for instance). I'm not saying I'm perfect, but given my read of L being pro-town, and the fact that I could die before getting to use that in the night-period as I mistakenly and stupidly let my possession of my weaponry be known to everyone. Should I sit back and let a fellow town-member die? No. Would I if it was someone who was not contributing to the thread? Sure. That being said, it is obvious that I feel like L is contributing his heart and soul to catching whoever is conspiring behind the scenes. He has put more FoS this game than some of you have put throughout your entire mafia careers. If you really feel like he is red because of my anti-nuking for him, lynch me, and offer your own head when I don't flip red, because I won't. "He who saves one life saves the world entire" I have saved and preserved the world as it is, and this was my goal. I have done my part to guarantee that the ToD will not have risen from the improper actions that have taken place. You all should consider trying to stop nuking so we can save the world. | ||
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