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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 09 2010 07:06 GMT
#16
I'm in
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 10 2010 04:43 GMT
#150
It really depend on the numbers of blues anyway
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 11 2010 00:34 GMT
#249
I'm glad Incognito just pointed that out, I was catching up with the topic and people seemed to be assuming that the fact that elected officials that can be rolechecked was bad for mafia/good for town. This fact is just wrong. The mafia choose their GF in night 1, and I don't see any reason why they wouldnt put their elected member as GF. Only if they get both, they can't protect both, but meh, that's not good for town either.

Also, I didn't really understand that part with the first/last for protecting BGs, maybe I'm just not reading it right or something, but I don't understand what you mean

Also, on a side note, pushing further Incognito's analysis about the chances of having a mafia elected, assuming a proportionate number of people run for office (20% mafia-80% town), with 5 people running (1 mafia 4 town) we have around 40% chance of electing a mafia as either mayor or pardoner (moving a bit toward 36.66% the more people that run, and having a much higher chance with less people running for office)
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 11 2010 01:26 GMT
#255
On March 11 2010 10:03 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2010 09:34 CynanMachae wrote:
Also, I didn't really understand that part with the first/last for protecting BGs, maybe I'm just not reading it right or something, but I don't understand what you mean

Also, on a side note, pushing further Incognito's analysis about the chances of having a mafia elected, assuming a proportionate number of people run for office (20% mafia-80% town), with 5 people running (1 mafia 4 town) we have around 40% chance of electing a mafia as either mayor or pardoner (moving a bit toward 36.66% the more people that run, and having a much higher chance with less people running for office)


After BGs are picked they are announced. So in the signup list, we find those two players and note that one of them is before the other. If "first" is picked, medics protect the first BG on the list, if not, they prot the second.

No, don't think too much about precise chances. I was just saying this to illustrate why its wrong to think that mafia will be discouraged from running for office.

Yea I did get that, I just didn't understand why the need to randomly pick one of them. But I went back and read the role and seems I hadn't noticed they were picked among town/mafia. IT does make sense now.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 11 2010 03:17 GMT
#291
On March 11 2010 12:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I do agree however, that greens should run. In a game like this, if a dt checks a green office holder, they can just use that person as a mouth all game. Yes there is a slight chance that person could be the gf, but thats a 1 in 24 chance.

Nah, it's not 1 in 24, since if any mafia make it it will be the GF.

And yea, I also think not only blues should rnun, for those reasons but also as someone mentioned out earlier it's can be better in a lot of situations to have a pro-town verteran that is green than a blue that isn't really as experienced.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 11 2010 16:35 GMT
#350
Why the hell someone would roleclaim in PM to specific people already (BC to vivi) is beyond me. I would really like to hear BC about that.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 13 2010 02:59 GMT
#504
On March 13 2010 11:28 Zona wrote:
With a public DT list, however, the bus driver could elect to switch someone in that DT list with anyone else. Remember the bus driver doesn't even need for this 'someone else' to be mafia for this to be effective - even if a blue is switched with a green, or a green with a blue, then the DT can be discredited. Or, if people are considering the chance that the DT's check was bus driven, then doubt is thrown on the result of the check, making it a lot less useful.

I was under the impression that if someone was the target of a medic/DT and got switched, the blue player doing the check/protect would get notified that his target was switched. If it's as you say then the bus driver can screw us over much more than I thought. Confirmation there's no notification?
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 13 2010 03:08 GMT
#511
On March 13 2010 12:04 Foolishness wrote:
The point of the matter is that it's better to have the blue roles organized and under some general plan of action, and not letting them "choose for themselves" as you said. Mafia bus driver is at a severe disadvantage because they do not know the rest of the mafia team. Even say that the DT was going to inspect someone on the list of 3 people Incog gave. If the bus driver chooses to mess it up, they can only mess up ONE of the 3 people. Still a good chance DT's check is going to go through. Also they could accidentally switch with a mafia member, letting the DT check a mafia by mistake. Heck the bus driver could switch a mafia hit onto one of their own.

So you are saying that having a 1/3 chance of wasting a DT check is good? Ok.

And yea, on that 1/3 it'S switched, you have around 1/5 chance of switching with a mafia member. Pretty high there. And that's insinuating that the DT that check know with who his target was switched, which lead back to the question I asked earlier about bus drivers.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 13 2010 17:52 GMT
#566
Oh wat, BG lol. This wasn't there after WL lol.

On March 13 2010 18:12 Incognito wrote:
Which is why we need Cynan to speak up. What do you think about recent events?


First of all, I think I should explain my vote change from Incognito to BC yesterday (not last minute, but a change still). From Incognito's posting, I had the feeling that he was green instead of blue, since he seemed to think BC/L had good chances of being blues, which the other candidates weren't doing. I switched to BC then, because between him and L, if someone was to be blue, I was more convinced it was BC.

Lynching JeeJee, while it did came as suprise, I don't think was a bad choice. He was playing quite anti-town. If he indeed flipped red, we would have learned A LOT, from his PMing and that last minute switch.

Ok, I just read that bodyguards can't be rolechecked. While I only can say so with certitude about myself, I really do think Zona is also town. His posting is very protown and that's the impression I've got talking with him about the election.

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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 14 2010 04:59 GMT
#641
On March 14 2010 13:51 madnessman wrote:
PS. Isn't it equally likely that people trying to act nondescriptly and voting early on could be mafia too? As we saw in the last game, NONE of the swing voters for redtooth were mafia.

The swing vote for Redtooth during that game was mostly due to him failing while claiming medic and with all the drama that followed he got votes
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 15 2010 22:15 GMT
#771
Just done catching up.

I'm gonna vote for Malongo, the arguments pointed out earlier seems pretty good to me.

Imo, based on the fact that he ran for mayoer/pardoner and then dissapeared is a solid enough motivation. If he was red he was trying to get elected and then get GF, if he was green/blue then he should have known beforehand that he could be active/pro-town if he won while right now he's just hiding
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 00:47 GMT
#806
Well, if Malongo is gonna get modkilled anyway, it does seems a good idea to lynch another target
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 00:56 GMT
#815
Spazz, can you explain your switch from abenson to malongo?
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 01:01 GMT
#822
On March 16 2010 03:34 flamewheel91 wrote:
I have an away match today that's at least an hour's drive one way... so bear with me if I'm not back at 9:00. Voting will end on the TL clock today, so that's 11:00 sharp, and I'll get the post up as soon as possible.

Gah I thought day was ending in 5 minutes lol

Seems its at 10 EST (with the new DST)
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 01:57 GMT
#884
A miller and a mafia lol, well that's surprisingly good
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 16 2010 05:01 GMT
#916
The thing is that from both perspectives it was better to get both Malongo/Abenson

Mafia get a freekill on a townie, town get a double lynch on two players that were highly suspected

I was also considering switching to Abenson if Malongo was too get lynched + modkilled too. I got screwed up thinking the day would end at 10 EST but anyway it went ok
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 17 2010 02:56 GMT
#1073
Owww wat.

That's what I get from behind away :p

Anyway GL town.
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
March 20 2010 23:09 GMT
#1479
Oh, over already? lol Well yea it was looking pretty bad

And thanks for hosting this game flamewheel!
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