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i may not be good, but i produce results | ||
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Although I have made dumb moves in all of my games, they have gotten less and less detrimental to the town. Sooner or later I will end up being a good player. Take into consideration I have only played 3 games. Last game, I actually was in correspondence with Citi.zen who had convinced me to trust himself and Incognito. Unlike him, I did not think Ace was red. I may not be as good as some of the good players, or even as good as some of the mediocre players, but I feel this is the reason to not lynch me. First, I would like to build experience through playing more games over a longer period of time. The only way I can properly do this is by surviving. If I'm the day 1 lynch victim, I don't believe that I will be surviving. If L is in office, and is wrathful over my mistake from last game, I'm not going to survive. Not only is he being wrathful, he's stating he's running for office against the rules basically. Of course, if you call him out on it, he's going to say he was kidding, but i'll bet you money he really would lynch me if you made him mayor. Do you want a wrathful mayor? I don't. I want someone that will lead the town to victory. I want someone like Incognito. I want someone like Ver. I'd definitely take someone like Citi.zen. You be the judge. p.s. L how many times do I have to apologize before u can chill out, bro | ||
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when you don't run, or don't lynch them, you're suspicious. you're also disabling your mafia buddy from being able to vote for you... "I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO LYNCH YOU, WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR HIM" It's just a dumb concept, and should be frowned upon. | ||
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i forgot all political candidates are wishy-washy | ||
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whoo oo oo -sam edited for grammar and style. | ||
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2. Versatile 3. Malongo 4. tree.hugger 5. Bill Murray 6. Fishball 7. CynanMachae 8. johnnyspazz 9. nemY 10. sidesprang 11. Zona 12. XeliN 13. Fulgrim 14. citi.zen 15. madnessman 16. JeeJee 17. d3_crescentia 18. L 19. ~OpZ~ 20. Vivi57 21. Foolishness 22. Abenson 23. Iaaan [black]24. l10f 25. BloodyC0bbler[/black] 25 people, 5 mafia, 5 town blue roles, 1 blue role we have to ignore for sake of unknown alliance, and probably a couple millers. I'm assuming 2 Detective, 2 Medics, 1 vig, 1 mad hatter, 1 vet, 2 millers. Does that seem about right? So 24 Town, 5 mafia, and an ambiguous role? | ||
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I'd like to reference this post: "+ Show Spoiler + there are most likely only 1 of each blue role, i would keep that in mind. 2 meds could perma protect someone in this game, so most likely only one. Dt's have unlimited rc's so most likely only 1. Hatter has 2 kp (with bombs) so most likely is only one hatter, or 1-2 vigi's as having both roles would have too high a KP (would be more than the mafia in one night). Possibly 1 vet, millers 1-2. Do you want a Mafia mayor? Why are you all voting for BloodyC0bbler or L? We need to have neither of them in office, or at most one as pardoner, and figure out which of them is the real detective based upon SOMEONE ELSE roleclaiming through a hit or protection. We can PM one of them to check that person, and they only have a certain percentage of guessing it correctly if they are mafia. Given this turn of events, I feel it is necessary for Incognito and PREFERABLY someone else to be in office together. When I say someone else, I mean someone needs to step up to the plate and garner the town's votes. I don't trust either one of these guys until we can confirm them. I am more wary of a donkey in a lion's skin than the actual lion himself. in response to : + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2010 12:40 Zona wrote: Show nested quote + On March 11 2010 12:26 citi.zen wrote: On March 11 2010 05:04 L wrote: I got a role that makes me want mayor. Mayor is DT checkable in this game, keep that in mind, so even if the other DT wants to check, he can, then the confirmed train can go to town. Mafia will be forced to burn through bodyguards, and if they have a member he'll become pretty obvious after the kill. So yeah, I'm still planning on killing Bill Murray and I think I'm a pretty cool guy, so vote for me. In terms of plans; You guys must be joking if you think that killing the town driver is a good idea. The town driver can literally swap mafia hit BACK AT MAFIA. ITS ABSOLUTELY BALLS OFF THE WALL AWESOME. After I'm elected, I've got a small roleclaim based play to go with; I'll ask DTs to check certain people during the night so that we can get groups started. Should be a pretty simple game from there. Might as well roleclaim at this point so we can confirm you one way or another. Or not. You've said too much already and are a mafia target anyway. If you are DT I do not want you dead. Considering his sentence includes "the other DT"...it seems like he's claiming DT. The thing is - we probably only have one DT. It's pretty clear that hes outlining a scenario with two dt's not RCing. L will run for office in any game, and specifically said he had a fun role, that would more imply he got a KP role, or bus driver. The example of the "other dt" or "second dt" has already been used by multiple people thus far. Really, L? I believe the last game got to your head. I like you, I'm sorry it happened that way, my bad. I was wrong. | ||
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I'm re-iterating something that Zona caught through this post. MY purpose is that we do not need to trust L. He almost had me convinced he wasn't the Godfather.... if he dies, and he's the detective, we can pretty much catch the Godfather.. Bloodyc0bbler. Bloodyc0bbler himself said that he only believed there would be one detective. Speak up, guys L, BloodyC0bbler WHICH ONE OF YOU IS IT? maybe you all are used to liars in office, but i'm sick of it. it doesn't have to be this way. I am hereby announcing my campaign for the Mayoral position. I pray that I am not diluting the mayoral pool with another town aligned player; it'd be nice if i didn't jeopardize the other truly town aligned players by taking votes from them, but that's the only way that I am for sure going to be able to stay alive in this game. Do the right things, guys, change the world and save my life. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler: "No I *am* claiming dt for him" L: "the other dt" Where is a mention of a bus driver? You said he claimed DT. L implied he's a DT. Explain this statement Vivi: "i'm all in favor of a bus driver/dt mayor/pardoner", using more than 1 sentence please. Who is this mysterious bus driver you're talking about? If there's something you know that I don't, by all means... | ||
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I guess I'm running on the "MY MAFIA WOULDN'T LET ME RUN FOR MAYOR" platform. If i was mafia, they would want me to shut up, and rig the vote against L so they can maintain kp. By running, I am telling you all through my actions that you can have a neighbor in office. | ||
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risky, but would be a good gambit | ||
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On March 12 2010 17:13 sidesprang wrote: oh noes im 24 hours late, did not know that was a make it or break it kinda situation. And yes im not a red role, but if i played only to play red that would make most of the games pretty dull would it not ? And ofc i would have a DT in the office if that could be 100% guarranteed. And lastly, I've waited way longer for FF13 than this mafia game, so atm FF > school > mafia, (ofc RL stuff is in there too  )NOBODY CARES! | ||
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Bill Murray gets lynched the town loses an active poster I implore you all to consider voting for BloodyC0bbler. I don't mind L becoming pardoner. I actually don't believe L is red this game. It's just really fishy that he's implied he's a dt, implied he's a bus driver, and implied that he's a green on a suicide mission to discover the mafia. I hope he's any of these, as long as he isn't red, but I'd be hoping for it more if he wasn't after my head. Other than his wanting to kill me, I'll explain why it is best to not vote for him in layman's terms. He is a loose cannon. When you get a player like BC or Incognito, even d3_crescentia, you get someone who is analytical and normal. They will react coolly to nearly any situation. L is obviously not as cool acting as he would have you believe. He holds grudges, he rages over actions, and he has been acting scummy regardless of whether or not he is red which has been detrimental to the town. If elected, would I lynch L? ____ no. He is too valuable to lynch if he really IS something like the bus driver. I would be much more apt to go for someone who is going to be modkilled anyways if that is possible. There is a higher percentage of town vs mafia, and thus a higher propensity of picking a town member than a mafia member in a stupid day 1 lynch where you have literally no information of any substance, weight, or value. Do the right thing, vote for BloodyC0bbler or Incognito. Don't vote for someone who changes their mind like L. | ||
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Not helping the town? I am giving the town a guaranteed helpful, pro-town player in office. If I was red, would I be allowed to run from my mafia? Hell no. They wouldn't touch a Bill Murray campaign with a ten foot pole. Do I expect to win? No. My sole purpose of running is not to get into office, it is to prove I'm innocent. While people may not like me, and they may not agree with everything I agree with, I believe they can find it in their hearts to largely pardon my past discretions, and that will be easier in part because they realize that I am honestly trying my hardest to help the town this game. | ||
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Sorry to those of you who are red that I will be pming, but please don't reply to it. I don't feel like talking to you at this time. If you would like to admit it, that's fine, but I would personally rather you didn't. I'm trying to have fun catching you. Those of you who want to catch MAFIA with me SPEAK UP. Other than Incognito(with his town archives), and possibly bloodyc0bbler (with his plan in the position that we have 2 dts, checkable in office[i don't trust that, btw, because i feel like he could be a godfather claiming dt {if he wins the election first that is}]). I, S.C.R.F. am running for Mayor. With only 2 hours until the voting closes, we need to prevent L from having to kill himself when he comes into office. It's ok L, we love you. We want you to live a couple nights. If elected, I promise not to lynch L. I would lynch Malongo. From the get go, he was backing L. Malongo Chile. March 11 2010 11:28. Posts 2786 PM Profile Blog Quote posting that right underneath dont be a pussy ^ trust that guy seems legit. When called on it, sure, he may have started arguing with him some. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I feel like his late candidacy was a ploy by the mafia to make it look like he was green. It is also fishy because at that point L was behind significantly. L is a lot harder to pin, but I'll just use the fact that he's lying through his teeth. "On March 11 2010 05:04 L wrote: I got a role that makes me want mayor. Mayor is DT checkable in this game, keep that in mind, so even if the other DT wants to check, he can, then the confirmed train can go to town." On March 12 2010 11:47 L wrote: "Am I L? Oh, looks like I am. Hence if I'm running as green, I'm going to kill myself as confirmation in the part of a larger plan." I'm really interested in his role. If he's not the DT himself, which from this point on I don't really consider he is even if he shows up as that in a rolecheck, I would have the DT rolecheck L tonight. Onto MadnessMan: On March 12 2010 09:27 madnessman wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2010 09:08 Iaaan wrote: I originally voted for incognito just because I thought it would be nice to protect a veteran who posts alot. No ses pools of noobiness/inactivty. But, I'm changing my vote to BC, simply because he looks like the candidate that is easiest to hold accountable. L is quite ambiguous. Not answering questions/confirming things and posting lots of walls of text. Also, I think that whichever of the three doesn't win will probably be the first person lynched if they aren't mafia. I originally dismissed L as well for his hoity-toity posting, but after reading his posts more closely, I am pretty convinced he's town-aligned. I wouldn't say his posts are gems "chock full of chocolatey goodness," but they DO have a lot of substance. It's just that his rhetoric/phrasing make it very easy to miss what he implies. As such, I don't think he should be readily dismissed as a candidate just because he is not confirming things... My personal guess would be that he's vigil/bus driver. MadnessMan is basically a radio advertisement for L's campaign. He did the same thing for BC, sure, but he's blindly sticking with the weakest of the 3 candidates whenever he is a very analytical person. He knows L is scummy, because he is scummy himself, so he has to shift his playstyle away from what he has been doing in previous games to try and hide the fact that he's red. Not this time, the jig is up. Fulgrim wrote something that I found interesting too. "Especially since its not critical if we lose the sheriff role to a godfather, because even if we do there would be no way to tell by simple DT chekcs." This alone wouldn't ring any alarm bells, but I am reminded of a line by L stating that he needs the mayor's spot. Last but not least is ~OpZ~. He has been the least active of them, having real life commitments, and he comes out with that as his excuse for being red, maintaining KP, and not giving himself away. Seems and feels scummy to me. I would consider lynching him if people wanted to save Malongo in large numbers (if I was Mayor, which I won't be). | ||
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I'm not 100% on him. | ||
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That's the pot calling the kettle black if I've ever seen it. You're going to lynch someone who is trying to help the town? I'm honestly trying to figure out who is red. If you get elected, and lynch me, my name won't be red. | ||
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Feels like you were really quick to defend yourself. If you were green you would be like "what do i have to hide?", but that's not how you're being. | ||
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i laughed my ass off | ||
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too bad i'd end up green or the miller. | ||
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I guess i've finally convinced people not to trust you, and i'm going to admit something now: I kind of trust you, L. Sorry that I was so accusatory with you, I sort of had to do that to keep myself alive. I feel like you're either townie or the bus driver... only like 10-15% chance of being mafia. | ||
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im going to go watch a movie dts rolecheck me if you want, but it would be a waste. u can pm me and ill tell you what color i am. | ||
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The timing of it was off because I wasn't even thinking "you know, you can totally screw this guy who wanted to lynch you" until JeeJee brought it to my attention. Tough shit, L. Sorry you didn't get to lynch me. If BC does, that's his decision. I'm going to like him whether he does it or not. If he does lynch me, though, I guaran-fucking-tee you I'm going to be flipping blue, green, or black. Anyone want to step up and put their head on the line for Day 2 if I don't flip red? I can't trust anyone, because I'm the only person I know is a townie. I have noone. | ||
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I have FIFTEEN PMS from you Incognito. L wanted to lynch me. JeeJee made me realize that you can be in office too. I had figured that it was either going to be L as mayor with me dead, or L as pardoner where I have THIS pm from him last game: Original Message: "I'm not pardoning anyone. " ----------------------------------------- Original Message: if the town lynches me, would you pardon me? Do I want a pardoner who would not save me? He goes on to say that it would be a "gigantic waste of a day", but I disagree. With night hits, the voting on lynches and the like actually shift. Someone, given an extra day or two, can actually make a good case as to why they shouldn't be killed. Lastly, I simply like you more than L this game(Incognito), and am happy with who we have in office. We have two level-headed veterans in office. L has been all over the place on hinting his role. BC says DT and you say blue. DTs don't waste your checks on me Medics don't bother protecting me i'm green. | ||
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whatever, dude. i'm ok with being lynched if it means that they'll kill you next, and i'll enjoy you flipping red. i know i'm green. it's obvious that i'm green because the reds wouldn't let me run for mayor, and the last minute vote swing was initiated by a green. this all but clears myself and incognito. if you have a problem with that, you are an idiot. | ||
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that's why I didn't want L as pardoner, that PM was from L. he said he wouldn't ever use a pardon, because it is a waste. what's the point in being pardoner if you're not going to use your ability to save a blue? furthermore, laaan, I was not saying me dying makes incognito green.... i was saying jeejee being green makes it look better on incognito and i | ||
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I was sort of interested in not giving it away at first, but I realized that it was fairly obvious, and since I had pm'ed BC telling him something like "i hope i'm not the miller", i figured i'd rather tell everyone than let someone like vivi repeat my entire PM to the thread for me. i feel like lynching me would be a waste. i am not really hurting the town at all, and the only way that i could have possibly hurt the town at all is if incognito is red, and you are blue. i do not know if this is the case, and if it is, i am sorry for my mistake. | ||
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"I had figured that it was either going to be L as mayor with me dead, or L as pardoner where I have THIS pm from him last game: Original Message: "I'm not pardoning anyone. " ----------------------------------------- Original Message: if the town lynches me, would you pardon me?" | ||
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you're twisting my words on my implying that i was blue. you're acting like i did it to get elected. everyone who isn't an idiot knows i ran only because i was proving that i'm not red. the reason i wasn't sure if i wanted to act blue or not is because i wanted the mafia to waste a lynch on me as opposed to someone who could actually use a night action to save the town as a medic. this is the last time i'm going to reply to you in this thread. from here on out, i'm going to ignore every post you make, because i'm not going to stoop to your level anymore and hurt the town. | ||
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On March 14 2010 09:12 Iaaan wrote: I don't think bill murray is pro town, I just don't think he is mafia, and I don't want to waste a lynch on him. I'm not set on madnessman either, I'm sure that will change with the day post. I want a double lynch if we kill bill murray, so it doesn't get completely wasted. Who knows, maybe he is mafia, I just don't see anything out of the ordinary from him. Perhaps my being "not pro town" is because I have someone busting my balls trying to get me killed every single page of this thread? I have also at least kept my archives relatively up to date, attempted to put some heat on people which led to madnessman acting scummy as fuck, and have been active in my posting, probably posting more content than anyone in terms of the amount. | ||
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On March 14 2010 09:23 Foolishness wrote: Yeah I called him out on it early in the night (it's in the archives if you care to look). Considering how active he's been the "I'm a confused townie" defense is not very convincing at all. I tried that approach for a few games, and it didn't really work out too well for me. | ||
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If you're not protected, like BC/Incog, or maybe even L... i'd say lay low if you're a blue. I wouldn't RC to anyone in a PM, i made that mistake the first game I played. Don't recommend anyone doing that, unless you plan on lying, which I can't do. It's kind of easy for me to tell a "little white lie" though. If I'm green, I'm town aligned. I can say "I'm a town aligned player" which makes it sound like I'm blue. When I'm blue, though, that's all I can say. I wouldn't ever say "i'm green". I might still say something like "I would hate to be the miller". Likewise, if I was red, I wouldn't really be able to say any of this. I might be able to say some broad general statement like the above one about the miller, but I couldn't bring myself to lie about being pro-town. I am TRYING to be pro town, so I am pro town in my eyes. I am green. Let's get over these petty arguments and actually stick with some of the concepts proposed by Zona and Incognito. Medics should either protect CynanMachae (first bg like incognito pmed me), Zona, or, though I hate to admit it, L. I would hate for L to get offed tonight and be a town aligned bus driver. that could shaft us and really hurt in the long run. I would protect in that order, from highest priority being left to lowest right. Please don't protect randomly. I sort of expect the mafia to double tap a BG though... dunno what we can do vs. that if we only have one medic. If I die through the mafia tonight, it pretty much means L is the one sending the hits in lol | ||
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I'm going to try. Reasons why I'm the town miller. 6%-13% likely. I just used a calculator in mafia, that's how much I care about this town.If you're the Town Miller: 1) you think you are green. (check) <- I wish you could literally check a box nike style. 2) you end up black. 3) the mod says so. Firstly, I literally believe I am green. I got a green colored PM when the mod sent me a "your role". "you are a townie" god damn. I'm a fucking townie. this sucks shit. why did I have to blow it when I was something cool like a detective? IDK. I guess I'm a fuckup. Story of my life. If I'm black, I kind of sort of account for it because it's one of the only possibilities of being a townie. I guess it gives it spice. "oh, i hope i'm not the miller. What if I get elected and they think I'm red? that will sure be fun trying to convince them that the mafia would only put forth their godfather............................ real fun. I like close games. I also like raping rivals...... whatever, though, glad i'm alive. I've been drinking. That's why I'd be perfect if I'm black. Lynch me you guys. I don't care. I really don't. It will be better to lynch someone like me than to lynch a fuckin' medic. Keep them and the detectives alive, win this for me. I really want a town win here. If the town doesn't win, I'm going to drink so much that I'll throw up (i promise). That being said, L, maybe you can find a way to hurt me more than having me lynched day 1. Win it for your mafia (if you're red; assuming you're red) . Let's end this stupid feud becaude I'll admit I can't keep up with you. You win. I'm sorry I killed you, I thought you were red, and I like to win. It was the worst decision I've made in mafai, including breaking the rules, or leaving a typo on purpose to prove a point. I like you, you are one of my favorite people, and I would have voted for you. If flamewheel only knew........ I would be the perfect black. I am probably green.... 1/15 or 2/15 likely... what's that... hmmmmm 7.5? 5% What i was trying to say in my prior paragraph is this: let's assume that the mod decided what roles we would be........... who would be better suited as the miller besides me? and before you all are like WTF red? let's think..... would the mafia let me post this? they wouldn't. | ||
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for those of you too pompous to read previous games because you feel like you are better than everyone else: (btw, ace is actually one to study people who are new and give them respect, you should try it ) pulling a t_co is when you differentiate from someone's opinion when you are both obviously green or pro-town like L is probably a veteran or what not (in my opinion), and you come across as being red. Lynch me before L. He is more likely blue than me, as I am not blue. He might be red, but even if he is red, lynch someone like madnessman before him. L, imo, is the one i would have voted for if he was not going to lynch me. | ||
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and you saying i'm not posting like i have been is irrelevant, biased, and actually not true i've posted like this every single game, and every single game i'm town aligned I'm green. | ||
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On March 09 2010 14:14 L wrote: Yeah i'm having you killed day 1 of any game you're in with me. What day is it? | ||
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pm me if you all want to try to form a circle with me. i promise not to share your pms unless you pull a mikeymoo. | ||
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On March 15 2010 10:57 Iaaan wrote: In regards to voting, looks like Bill murray hopped on the first bandwagon against someone, and Abenson doesn't want to die himself, so he joins the bandwagon. I support the lynches of both Abenson and madnessman. I started the fucking bandwagon go look around page 26/27 | ||
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I switched my vote to Malongo, because I feel like he has been suspicious. 1) Chainsawing blindly with his support on L's campaign 2) His late and detailed candidacy, which I recall L saying "mafia finally picked their candidate, huh?" 3) His overall inactivity since being accused | ||
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At the time I was a little suspicious of you, but I'm a lot less so now whether or not it's justified. | ||
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want me to retrieve them? | ||
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I would lynch Malongo. From the get go, he was backing L. Malongo Chile. March 11 2010 11:28. Posts 2786 PM Profile Blog Quote dont be a pussy ^ trust that guy seems legit. posting that right underneath When called on it, sure, he may have started arguing with him some. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I feel like his late candidacy was a ploy by the mafia to make it look like he was green. It is also fishy because at that point L was behind significantly. from page 24 i am confirmed green start a circle around me. pm me your roles. | ||
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On March 12 2010 16:00 Malongo wrote: So after reading the full thread i just got convinced of some things: A) Balance wise, it is more than likely that one of the runners is mafia. This has happened many times in terms of distribution, for those that doesnt know rol distribution is not completely random. B) Having a mafia in the office is a lot worse this game imo. At least other times/games mafia member in the office was reduced to a)troll the town as long as he could, b) waste any resources given to him. Normally this ends up with a lynch day 2~4 because it gets plain obvious when the mafia official is not doing what he meant when he was running and because theres not that much he can do to hurt the town. However, with 2 KP and noclue setup it is highly unlikely that a mafia official can be spotted that quickly. C) Blues should be running for the office. However this is not completely sure in this case, since Incognito, BC and L are good enough to run even with a less powerful rol /green or vet/ D) Activity is the only thing we can get other than votes to nail mafia. In this case im afraid a lot of players have misunderstood active with "posting". As long as we spam less important stuff it is as if we werent posting. Not trying to be a douche, but please try to be as accurate and put some weight in the posting. This is critical to help the town identify if you are really trying to help or just posting to note that you are not inactive. E) There are various nonvoters up to now. This is scary as hell combined with A. With just 1~3 mafia in this list we are going to get in trouble. 8. johnnyspazz 10. sidesprang 17. d3_crescentia 18. L 21. Foolishness 25. BloodyC0bbler So with all these things im proposing myself to fill one of the spots. Malongo is Running For Officials My platform is based on: A) I have a "decent" skill at reading the strategy from the mafia. This has been agreed from various veteran players. Most of the time i work on my own private analisys that i put up when it is better for the town. B) I feel im very valuable at the middle~late game state. I ve came up with some half decent plays like the ghetto checklists, and other stuff from the setup. C) Im a town player in the sense that i ve always tried my best to support the town. If it is good for the town to sacrifice me ill do it gladly. D) I always come up with this at the begginnig of the game: first day is more than anything a random start, where we cant be sure about anything. If my process is right there is at least one mafia in those 3. That is a high chance that we will put a good mafia player in the office. By adding myself at this stage im giving another chance to the town since it is quite unlikely that there are 2 or 3 mafias running in a group of 4. Thats it. I expect my late run doesnt look really that weird since it is likely that i dont get votes anyways  On March 12 2010 16:12 L wrote: Oh hey, good of you to join the party. Did you finally get picked for the mafia team? If not, are you claiming blue by running? Who would you kill if voted mayor and who would you like to get voted in if you can't get in? Sleep time, but I EXPECT ANSWERS. this makes L look pretty good. | ||
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Also, check these pms. "(Their Response  Original Message:Hmm ok, but why did you pm me this instead of posting in thread? We need more thread discussion ----------------------------------------- (FROM ME Original Message:i agree with you that they're not active, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're mafia. Neither does the fact that they're better players. the list is randomized. i feel like malongo is mafia, though. take into consideration i have usually been wrong in the past. i just feel like he has been acting relatively scummy this game." after this person told me to post in the thread, i did that post on 24 to bring heat on people who were acting scummy. malongo was my candidate to lynch. why would i lynch someone on my own team? I wouldn't. i'm obviously not red. that being said, there is no reason why i'm not involved in any town circles | ||
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Original Message: i just felt like malongo on that page was doing that chainsaw.. like if you attack L i'll attack you is how i felt about that.. it was like a pre-chainsaw warning. i felt like it was a scumtell, but i wanted to discuss it with an established veteran. i'm gonna go catch up on the thread right now. " | ||
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Vivi57 tree.hugger Incognito Zona Fulgrim Iaaan johnnyspazz CynanMachae Incognito Votes: 7 Versatile Abenson XeliN Fishball madnessman JeeJee Bill Murray L Votes: 6 Malongo ~OpZ~ citi.zen l10f sidesprang Foolishness d3_crescentia Votes: 3 nemY BloodyC0bbler L | ||
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On March 13 2010 09:18 Bill Murray wrote: I'd also like to re-iterate that the public conception of me and it's perception of me make it plain to see that the chances of my being red are literally slim to none. In this instance, I implore you all to shift votes towards me and enable my creation of a town circle. I am not going to ask you to roleclaim to me in PM, but I ask you to at least consider PMing me so we can have a nice talk. This will enable me to analyze the way that people are PMing me, and I can organize files on you within a sort of "portfolio" word document. I'm not going to be quoting you if necessary, I would just like to start taking the way that you act and what your opinions of helping the town are. I will be "going door to door" so to speak, pming everyone so that I at least send a pm to every town aligned player. Sorry to those of you who are red that I will be pming, but please don't reply to it. I don't feel like talking to you at this time. If you would like to admit it, that's fine, but I would personally rather you didn't. I'm trying to have fun catching you. Those of you who want to catch MAFIA with me SPEAK UP. Other than Incognito(with his town archives), and possibly bloodyc0bbler (with his plan in the position that we have 2 dts, checkable in office[i don't trust that, btw, because i feel like he could be a godfather claiming dt {if he wins the election first that is}]). I, S.C.R.F. am running for Mayor. With only 2 hours until the voting closes, we need to prevent L from having to kill himself when he comes into office. It's ok L, we love you. We want you to live a couple nights. If elected, I promise not to lynch L. I would lynch Malongo. From the get go, he was backing L. posting that right underneath When called on it, sure, he may have started arguing with him some. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I feel like his late candidacy was a ploy by the mafia to make it look like he was green. It is also fishy because at that point L was behind significantly. L is a lot harder to pin, but I'll just use the fact that he's lying through his teeth. "On March 11 2010 05:04 L wrote: I got a role that makes me want mayor. Mayor is DT checkable in this game, keep that in mind, so even if the other DT wants to check, he can, then the confirmed train can go to town." On March 12 2010 11:47 L wrote: "Am I L? Oh, looks like I am. Hence if I'm running as green, I'm going to kill myself as confirmation in the part of a larger plan." I'm really interested in his role. If he's not the DT himself, which from this point on I don't really consider he is even if he shows up as that in a rolecheck, I would have the DT rolecheck L tonight. Onto MadnessMan: MadnessMan is basically a radio advertisement for L's campaign. He did the same thing for BC, sure, but he's blindly sticking with the weakest of the 3 candidates whenever he is a very analytical person. He knows L is scummy, because he is scummy himself, so he has to shift his playstyle away from what he has been doing in previous games to try and hide the fact that he's red. Not this time, the jig is up. Fulgrim wrote something that I found interesting too. "Especially since its not critical if we lose the sheriff role to a godfather, because even if we do there would be no way to tell by simple DT chekcs." This alone wouldn't ring any alarm bells, but I am reminded of a line by L stating that he needs the mayor's spot. Last but not least is ~OpZ~. He has been the least active of them, having real life commitments, and he comes out with that as his excuse for being red, maintaining KP, and not giving himself away. Seems and feels scummy to me. I would consider lynching him if people wanted to save Malongo in large numbers (if I was Mayor, which I won't be). | ||
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I am all but confirmed green at this point, as I was very outspoken against Malongo. | ||
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If I was red, I would want to win. I am a competitive fuck. There's no way in fucking hell I would accuse someone from my own team. You all are really dumb if you think I'm red. | ||
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It's just that I know I got a green role from the pm, so all that shit falls short with me... I'd be thrilled if L offered himself up for lynch when I flip green, because I'd love for him to get killed off with me, but when I flip green he will make a 50 line post stating that it's not his fault that I was green and anyone would think that I was red... yadda yadda yadda. I also am not trusting of some of the people who have been giving fairly good analysis. I am not trusting of the people who are praising those people for giving said analysis. In fact, there are only a few people I feel like are green... Iaaan being one. If you want to know a few others, feel free to pm me. If you don't want to, that's fine. I'm not going to force you or beg you. I'd like to ask you all to not lynch me, though. It will be wasteful. I am the only person I know who is green. If I wasn't saying I was green, I would understand you guys. If you all knew me better, you would know that I DON'T LIE. | ||
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What's funny is he was pushing for me to put heat on Malongo. That, to me, is the only reason I don't feel like he's red. The fact that I put heat on Malongo, MadnessMan, and L among others should show that I am not red. | ||
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You could...make a list of who you think to be innocent. Right now we have way too many suspects. We need to narrow them down. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Well other than informing people you have my stamp of approval, I don't know what I can do. I voted for you twice, and trust you more then BC. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Mafia could say that too. Posting that doesnt mean anything. Either we can act on this or do nothing. Otherwise its just empty words. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: It shows that you care about the town. It makes people trust you. It could form a town circle around you. I would defend it. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: What would posting this do? All I can see is...it makes you look more suspicious. When you don't die. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: "----------------------------------------- Original Message: I don't want to waste a lynch. I want mafia to waste a hit." ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Uh post what? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: can/may i post that in the thread? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I don't want to waste a lynch. I want mafia to waste a hit. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: i'm jk btw. if you want to waste a lynch/hit on me though through pm that's cool. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Seriously? I don't want to do it for you if you don't want me to. Or maybe I'll ask again tomorrow when you're sober. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: call me out as medic. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Oh hey also you said in thread you don't mind if we lynch you if you're green. So wouldn't you like it better if I called you out as vig to make the mafia waste a hit on you instead of the town? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: NP MR. red. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Oh so if you're green I guess you wouldn't mind taking one for the team? I can out you as vig in thread for ya. Save the real vig for a day. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: i'm green...........or miller ----------------------------------------- Original Message: No im warning you that if you're blue and are trying to hide it, you're not doing a very good job. If you're green, well, then good job. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: dude, are you fuckin red or somethin'?(took off the g and replaced it with ' ----------------------------------------- Original Message: btw your posts make it sound like you're trying to hide the fact that you're blue. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Malongo moreso, though versatile is doing the "halfway inactive/ i'm going to post when i need to" tactic.... Malongo seemed really delayed on his candidacy, that is suspicious as fuck to me, but i'm not going to put my name out there on the basis that he could be green. losing fulgrim and vivi is HUGE to the town..... L can play it off ALL he wants, but that is fucking huge. those people sit behind the scene and soak everything up and in.... their analysis ... we're missing that late-game now... that could be huge. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Are you a vig? Tentatively we need kill suspects. Right now I'm looking at Malongo/Versatile. What do you think? Its generally considered bad play for town to selfishly attempt to avoid dying. There could be strategic reasons for doing so, but I highly doubt you're going to claim to have any of those. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: "Unless of course you're someone like Ver." I must be. I want to survive AND win. I'm town, man, either trust me or don't. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Ah ok. So the archive thread has gotten you to post more quality stuff. Yes, I can see that. Before you started pming me, I thought you were most assuredly town. But your last few pms have made me question. As an addendum to my last pm, I'm going to say that townies should not be afraid of dying. Unless of course you're someone like Ver. The goal is to help the town win, not to survive as long as possible. Sacrifice is sometimes necessary. Plus, I think the mafia have better targets than you atm. Don't be afraid to post, don't be afraid of dying. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I have been posting just as much as I normally do, except that it's 5 paragraphs instead of 1 line. The reason I have been posting a lot less is because other people are posting a lot less, so it takes less to get heard, and that I hate having to archive everything. If I posted 80 one liners, or a post with 50 lines in it, which is easier to archive? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Yeah the thread is kinda dead. Townies like you should step it up and actually post your suspicions. If L lynches you though...I don't think it will impact the thread too much. Seriously you haven't been posting a ton this game like you normally do. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: you think the thread is dead now? will be even worse if people let L be mayor and he lynches me. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hmm ok, but why did you pm me this instead of posting in thread? We need more thread discussion ----------------------------------------- Original Message: i agree with you that they're not active, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're mafia. Neither does the fact that they're better players. the list is randomized. i feel like malongo is mafia, though. take into consideration i have usually been wrong in the past. i just feel like he has been acting relatively scummy this game. PMs with Incognito | ||
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thanks for admitting your real analysis L. | ||
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I do not believe Malongo was the only red candidate, simply was a candidate to try and take votes away from the other candidates and dillute the pool. I feel like that it was also an attempt to make someone look blue or green. He ran so late that he didn't expect to win anything and be rolechecked. I'm not sure if they had him killed on purpose, but I speculate that that could be the case. I am leaning towards BC or Incognito. Incognito definitely has been acting funny... BC was a bit more quiet the game he as a Mad Hatter.... he did feel pretty comfortable when I talked to him and Ace on IRC about Malongo being red. | ||
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that one time I was on IRC, I talked with BC and Ace. He can also vouch for me posting the Mystlord stream I was going to be viewing as a link in the IRC channel. I have been on there once in years. Those statements are not contradictory, Zona. | ||
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On March 17 2010 03:59 Versatile wrote: i can see the town is hesitant to lynch BC, and if that's not what the town wants, i will go with that. so for lynch candidates for day 3, what does everyone think of putting the L/BM thing to rest. i highly doubt that either one of them will be killed during the night. as i stated before, if they're both townies, the mafia will want them @ each others' throats as a distraction, and if either is mafia, the death of one during the night would draw too much attention to the other. unless they're just that diabolical. thoughts? I would love to put it to rest. I like L. I believe he is town. | ||
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On March 17 2010 04:02 Versatile wrote: i think there is only one way to deal with this. the two tells the pardoner (incog in this game) that we do not want any lynches. and if he goes against the town's wishes so blantantly, that's cause for immediate lynching. of course, this should have been done in the beginning of the game, but we can just keep it in mind for future games as well. obviously there some problems with this, for example, it counts on the pardoner keeping their word so it is not full proof. It would also be torn if the pardoner was a DT. If he claimed DT he could justify saving someone. | ||
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On March 17 2010 04:41 Versatile wrote: lol, why are you behaving as if this is the first time you've been accused all game? you've been a lynch candidate for ages. i'm promoting discussion to get more people involved in the discussion so we can get a better idea of where the town stands. and if you are mafia like L has stated over and over again, lynching you would benefit the town. nice way of admitting you're trying to ride a bandwagon to look innocent. | ||
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If he's green or blue, great. If he's red, that's not good L. I don't believe he's red, but I don't know who are red and who are green, so I can't write anyone off. Quote from sidesprang: Which brings us to other candidates. Quite frankly, there's a lot. We can never be sure, but at the moment, I'm not comfortable at all with Abenson as a candidate. I would suggest Malongo and Sidesprang as alternatives. Both of whom have very few posts. Malongo has also gone mysteriously missing after his bid for office. Soon after posting, he was called out, and never responded. Which is always unsettling. Furthermore, he usually posts more material. Sometimes its not very useful material, but he always has some material. Either way, this is different for Malongo. Why are you so worried about Malongo, and why were you so late to post your archives? I'm not sure if you're red or not, but this needs to be explained. You had no reason to be worried about him. Were you trying to put suspicion on him? I hope you were. At first, I figured this made you look green, but then it made me mistake you more for talking about him at all. I guess I'm being hypocritical. Just the wording you used was different from mine. You feel bad he's not posting, whereas I was saying he was my highest suspect on my list of who could possibly be red (I expect it of everyone but myself). | ||
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well, that makes more sense. we were actively talking about him. sidesprang didn't really quote his archives well, in my defense. | ||
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i guess ill ask you, then, incognito. why were you so worried about malongo's inactivity? I wasn't even aware he was inactive, I was bloody f5ing the voting thread ready to switch my vote on him if he showed up. | ||
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On March 17 2010 03:58 Bill Murray wrote: I've had your FoS on me way too much to really be justified. Go back to ignoring me, and talking down to me, and treating me like i'm not worthy of your analysis. If you all want to have me pulling a t_co go ahead and kill me. it happens every game i've ever been in. i suppose it is unjust to want and jealously crave survival when i really have nothing i can contribute to the town. i would rather you all lynch me than someone who is actually blue. | ||
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On March 17 2010 12:41 Incognito wrote: Nop given the BG situation its time for a power play. Time to get this game wrapped up. thank god. | ||
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On March 17 2010 12:42 johnnyspazz wrote: why would he have a bomb on you if he was planning to die after you were lynched? I didn't really believe he expects the lynch to pass... It's pretty obvious it's a wasted lynch. | ||
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First, I am green. You can not be sure of this, but I am. I promise to not ever play another mafia game with you all if I am not green or black this game. I am yearning for a town win. I am comforted by incognito promising that the officials have their acts together. I have put heat on people that are red. I do not see how that I am even being considered for a lynch target. I am a very active participant in the thread. There are many people with posts that you could count on your hands. I have had more than that on one page of the thread. Now, I'm not saying that my spamming is good, and starting with this post I'm going to attempt to begin consolidating my posting style again, like I tried to at the beginning of this thread, but if you'll notice in the thread it has shifted more towards course of action as opposed to FoS and putting heat on people. I feel like that my posting shifts with the current mood of the thread. The better the people are posting, and the more information they are giving out, the more I will take the game seriously and post like a champion. I feel like that in a late game scenario, in which I am green, there is 1 red, and there is 1 medic, I will vote correctly a better percent of the time than almost anyone. I have a great instinct and intuition for scummy behavior over time. I am a great judge of people's character over time. The more information I have about people, the better I can do in relation to analyzing their thought process and their overall alignment. This requires time, and that requires me to live. Think about what you all are doing. You are really arbitrarily wasting a lynch. There are 17 better candidates in my eyes, as I am the only person I am sure of. | ||
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On March 17 2010 13:07 Incognito wrote: Quit talking about how you're so good at finding the mafia. Go find them. Like L said previously in response to ~OpZ~'s long defense posts, defending yourself doesn't do that much good unless you have a solid case. Sadly, you don't. So instead of trying to defend yourself, start generating some content. That makes us way more likely to not lynch you than if you just sit here spamming "IM GREEN" all day. I have the best defense in the world. I'm green. You want to put your head up for execution when I flip green? No? I wonder why. Because you know I'm town aligned. | ||
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On March 17 2010 14:09 XeliN wrote: You guys are idiots, im a plain Townie, it would be a waste of a lynch when i flip green. going to sleep but now. my exact defense... i wonder why he's using it. oh, because i'm green too... i wonder what that makes him. | ||
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Then at night you can rolecheck me... and i'll be green... and you all can be like "oh, he really doesn't lie." Go look at the game I was detective. I didn't once claim to be green. I claimed to be "town aligned". Go look at the game I was green. I claimed to be green. Go look at the game I was red... oh wait, I haven't ever been red in my life including this game, so you can't find any reference of me EVER being mafia, and if you say you can you're a liar. | ||
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On March 17 2010 14:25 flamewheel91 wrote: No strategic modkills, I thought this was made clear. Tritely speaking, dire consequences await. dire consequences........ do they involve lightning? i was using the threat of a strategic modkill to try to clear my name :p | ||
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On March 17 2010 14:34 Incognito wrote: I wasn't elitist. I told you what you could do to help a few pages back. If you choose to ignore our suggestions, then don't come back yelling about how we're unfairly voting you. Saying I'm green doesn't make you green. Saying you don't lie is just circular logic. The way to prove yourself is not stating you're green. Its by producing content. I'm producing more content than 90% of the people playing. | ||
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how about you produce some results like a damn rolecheck? ever think of actually doing something that makes sense, as oppose to linking biased criticism that actually proves i'm green? i'll highlight where i said malongo was red in the thread before ANYONE ELSE DID: I, S.C.R.F. am running for Mayor. With only 2 hours until the voting closes, we need to prevent L from having to kill himself when he comes into office. It's ok L, we love you. We want you to live a couple nights. If elected, I promise not to lynch L. I would lynch Malongo. Oh, really? During MAYORAL CAMPAIGNS I highlighted Malongo as red. We have 1 confirmed red player, and I was going to lynch them if elected. I WOULD HAVE LYNCHED A RED ON DAY 1 IF YOU MADE ME MAYOR. | ||
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On March 17 2010 14:47 L wrote: Kinda irrelevant. You're going to die unless you take the ticket we gave you a few days ago. Instead of producing content you're spamming. On the plus side, you flipping red gives us an easy roadmap to all your allies, including that cute GF of yours. if i die, i will be townie or miller. you are completely wrong, and you being on my case all game proves that you are a wrathful kid. | ||
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On March 17 2010 14:49 Bill Murray wrote: That should prove I'm green if anything. I told you I was suspicious of Malongo 3 days before he was up for lynching. I sat in the archives thread literally f5ing for 4 fucking minutes dude lol just in case he showed back up, i was going to vote for him again. i've explained this. produce some results that didn't come from L, as he's obviously only trying to get me killed because i killed him in caller's game................ how about you produce some results like a damn rolecheck? ever think of actually doing something that makes sense, as oppose to linking biased criticism that actually proves i'm green? i'll highlight where i said malongo was red in the thread before ANYONE ELSE DID: Oh, really? During MAYORAL CAMPAIGNS I highlighted Malongo as red. We have 1 confirmed red player, and I was going to lynch them if elected. I WOULD HAVE LYNCHED A RED ON DAY 1 IF YOU MADE ME MAYOR. respond to this L | ||
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On March 17 2010 14:51 johnnyspazz wrote: nice BM, you finally posted something that makes me doubt your redness would be nice if your vote would show that | ||
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On March 17 2010 15:03 johnnyspazz wrote: why not? i don't quite understand this reasoning Because I am a fuckup. On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote: There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies. Come save me, Foolishness. | ||
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On March 17 2010 15:55 Foolishness wrote: Unfortunately I'm about to lose a green friend, not a red one. Thanks. I've got a better style post upcoming. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler Votes: 8 Vivi57 tree.hugger Incognito Zona Fulgrim Iaaan johnnyspazz CynanMachae Incognito Votes: 7 Versatile Abenson XeliN Fishball madnessman JeeJee Bill Murray It is a critical point of the game. I am trying to help you all. You can drastically improve your chances with 4/17 or 3/17. You have a 0% chance of 3/17 if you lynch me. I am a town member. I hope the town can finally see that since I am trying to be helpful, and to want what is best and good for this town. I'd love to win. If I was looking for a red, I would definitely be looking at where people voted, posts someone has made, and where the person was aligned. To me, it looks like it would be someone who was voting for L. The fact that L claims that mafia won't vote to try to get someone into office, and was generally mad about losing the election in which he really wanted pardoner while scummily claiming he wanted to be mayor. L was the true mayoral candidate, and tries to clear his name forcing Malongo to die since L posted right after Malongo's candidacy that he was probably the Mafia candidate. He would be cleared of the format, and made into Godfather by his team where he was the only veteran. L would then proceed to pick Mad Hatter because it is only accounted for posthumously. Malongo could say that the epic Chilean Earthquake devastated his IP and voila he would at most have a 1 game ban if any at all depending on the host. L then goes on to say RC me, Bus me, Focus on me I'm clean, and would have been saying "I pardon my red buddies." If I hadn't been a thorn in his side for that one, too. Glad that wasn't a vivi 2.0. By confusing the people in office and bein the one privately pming them whispering in their ears like wormtongue he can abuse them into doing what he wants them to do. He is being very manipulative having you all kill a person who is trying to help the town win moreso than any other player!!!!!!! Don't let him manipulate you. Be strong. He's wanted to kill me all game people! The Mafia will try to hide my post, trust me, this will get spammed to death if not tonight, before everyone wakes up. L is over 5% likely to be mafia, (1/18) and I am 0%. This is the only knowledge I have to impart to you all. I understand that you all believe that people say this no matter what their color, but I am seriously not a liar. I have been blue once, and I roleclaimed detective day 1 in a pm... maybe night 1... yeah. lol. I don't know what I'd do as red, because i haven't been blessed with being red yet. I say let's lynch L, see if I blow up, and then if he's red and we improve by 6% vs 4/17 (3/17), awesome. If he's really the mad hatter, we see fireworks, more awesome. I am open to other targets, but he really does have a strong case against himself. | ||
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On March 14 2010 14:17 Fishball wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2010 14:13 Fishball wrote: I'm here, just reading. Looking at all the potential shit being stirred up. On March 13 2010 11:31 Fishball wrote: Woops, posted in voting thread. On March 13 2010 12:26 Fishball wrote: Curious question L, how old are you. On March 13 2010 16:58 Fishball wrote: Uh, why the hell would you lynch JeeJee. Fishball's archive post is devoid of any content. He, to me, isn't putting forth nearly as much effort as a lot of other people within this game are. I get a general feeling that he is being "coached" by a "veteran". | ||
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On March 16 2010 11:18 Zona wrote: Also, I want everyone to keep this in mind when analyzing how people interacted with Malongo. Since he was inactive, he was an ideal person for the mafia to sacrifice to burnish their own townie credentials. On March 12 2010 16:00 Malongo wrote: So after reading the full thread i just got convinced of some things: A) Balance wise, it is more than likely that one of the runners is mafia. This has happened many times in terms of distribution, for those that doesnt know rol distribution is not completely random. B) Having a mafia in the office is a lot worse this game imo. At least other times/games mafia member in the office was reduced to a)troll the town as long as he could, b) waste any resources given to him. Normally this ends up with a lynch day 2~4 because it gets plain obvious when the mafia official is not doing what he meant when he was running and because theres not that much he can do to hurt the town. However, with 2 KP and noclue setup it is highly unlikely that a mafia official can be spotted that quickly. C) Blues should be running for the office. However this is not completely sure in this case, since Incognito, BC and L are good enough to run even with a less powerful rol /green or vet/ D) Activity is the only thing we can get other than votes to nail mafia. In this case im afraid a lot of players have misunderstood active with "posting". As long as we spam less important stuff it is as if we werent posting. Not trying to be a douche, but please try to be as accurate and put some weight in the posting. This is critical to help the town identify if you are really trying to help or just posting to note that you are not inactive. E) There are various nonvoters up to now. This is scary as hell combined with A. With just 1~3 mafia in this list we are going to get in trouble. 8. johnnyspazz 10. sidesprang 17. d3_crescentia 18. L 21. Foolishness 25. BloodyC0bbler So with all these things im proposing myself to fill one of the spots. Malongo is Running For Officials My platform is based on: A) I have a "decent" skill at reading the strategy from the mafia. This has been agreed from various veteran players. Most of the time i work on my own private analisys that i put up when it is better for the town. B) I feel im very valuable at the middle~late game state. I ve came up with some half decent plays like the ghetto checklists, and other stuff from the setup. C) Im a town player in the sense that i ve always tried my best to support the town. If it is good for the town to sacrifice me ill do it gladly. D) I always come up with this at the begginnig of the game: first day is more than anything a random start, where we cant be sure about anything. If my process is right there is at least one mafia in those 3. That is a high chance that we will put a good mafia player in the office. By adding myself at this stage im giving another chance to the town since it is quite unlikely that there are 2 or 3 mafias running in a group of 4. Thats it. I expect my late run doesnt look really that weird since it is likely that i dont get votes anyways On March 12 2010 16:12 L wrote: Oh hey, good of you to join the party. Did you finally get picked for the mafia team? If not, are you claiming blue by running? Who would you kill if voted mayor and who would you like to get voted in if you can't get in? Sleep time, but I EXPECT ANSWERS. Malongo admits he won't be getting any votes. If he knew he wasn't going to be getting any votes, and was admitting that there could be 2 mafia candidates out of 4, I have to believe that the real reason he was running was to hide the candidacy of the Godfather, and clear their name. It would be easy to do this through sacrificing himself, which he says in his post that he doesn't mind doing. He is an old veteran, and a lot of veterans have learned that they can get more out of sacrificing theirself with a cool play than staying alive and being wasteful. I feel like this is what he was doing. In this format, he can just say that there's simply no way that the mafia will run 2 candidates. I'm fairly certain he has even said this. Two people trying to make it look as if they have reason to support someone who has had the only red voting for them. They are hopping on the bandwagon blindly... pretty scummy behavior. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THEIR VOTING PATTERN Neither one of them voted to lynch Malongo AT ANY TIME. One of them voted for Abenson, and one of them voted for ~OpZ~. On March 17 2010 19:26 madnessman wrote: Where you been, man? Also, l10f, all you've contributed lately is telling flamewheel how he formatted the coloring in his post wrong. (lol). I do realize though that last game, you were a blue and you were awfully quiet as well. But as Zona said before he died (RIP Zona!), keeping quiet only hinders the town in a game where there are no behavioral clues. So post your thoughts on what's going on? On March 17 2010 20:48 l10f wrote: I like to work with people that I believe are town aligned and experienced and only speak out if I'm called upon or people are doing something that I think is stupid (i.e. lynching redtooth when QS was a confirmed sumiyoshi). Also, how did he know that l10f was going to respond? It's like they have been in on it together. Both of these posts above have been back to back posts, and I feel like they are incriminating even if they do not appear to be so on the outside. I feel as if these two are acting way too buddy-buddy with one another to merit their being green. I feel like they are aligned together on a red team. MadnessMan was horror stricken whenever L didn't get pardoner. Both voted for L with Malongo. | ||
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On March 18 2010 00:48 Bill Murray wrote: Malongo admits he won't be getting any votes. If he knew he wasn't going to be getting any votes, and was admitting that there could be 2 mafia candidates out of 4, I have to believe that the real reason he was running was to hide the candidacy of the Godfather, and clear their name. It would be easy to do this through sacrificing himself, which he says in his post that he doesn't mind doing. He is an old veteran, and a lot of veterans have learned that they can get more out of sacrificing theirself with a cool play than staying alive and being wasteful. I feel like this is what he was doing. In this format, he can just say that there's simply no way that the mafia will run 2 candidates. I'm fairly certain he has even said this. Two people trying to make it look as if they have reason to support someone who has had the only red voting for them. They are hopping on the bandwagon blindly... pretty scummy behavior. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THEIR VOTING PATTERN Neither one of them voted to lynch Malongo AT ANY TIME. One of them voted for Abenson, and one of them voted for ~OpZ~. Also, how did he know that l10f was going to respond? It's like they have been in on it together. Both of these posts above have been back to back posts, and I feel like they are incriminating even if they do not appear to be so on the outside. I feel as if these two are acting way too buddy-buddy with one another to merit their being green. I feel like they are aligned together on a red team. MadnessMan was horror stricken whenever L didn't get pardoner. Both voted for L with Malongo. The reason they are more suspicious is in the last paragraph, here. | ||
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4 out of 17 players (after the lynch) are mafia. 23.5% 3 out of 17 players (after the lynch) are mafia 17.6% The likeliehood of me being mafia is 0% The only chance of having 25% less mafia in relation to theirselves and 6% in relation to the entirety of my team of townies is to not lynch me, as there is 100% likelihood that through lynching me it will be 4 mafia members out of 17 players. | ||
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On March 18 2010 02:29 johnnyspazz wrote: probably you and foolishness jk but i think the fact that BM's first lynch would've been a red makes him probably green THANK YOU. | ||
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Versatile, Fishball, Citi.zen... you have all been caught. Explain yourselves. lol jk | ||
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On March 18 2010 02:29 johnnyspazz wrote: probably you and foolishness jk but i think the fact that BM's first lynch would've been a red makes him probably green I hope it's not either of them... I feel like Incognito is pushing for the lynching of townies. XeliN, Foolishness, Versatile, myself... all feel like greens to me, and the knowledge that I am green, that zona was green, fulgrim, cynanmachae being green, and malongo being red.... oh, yeah, and jeejee being green.... that's all the information I have. I have to follow my gut on people, and I guess I have to trust BC and Incognito because the likelihood of them both being mafia is very low, and if there really is a 2nd DT it makes the likelihood pretty much 0. That is why I feel like L is probably mafia, that and the fact that he wrote off Malongo and used it to make him look blue. He is the mafia Godfather in my opinion, as I don't believe the mafia didn't have a substantial candidate. The thing is, with my having to trust BC and Incognito, it makes no sense to me as to why they want to lynch me. Incognito even said he thought I was red? WTF? lol. It's crazy talk from my eyes. | ||
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On March 18 2010 11:09 Foolishness wrote: Haven't you been reading the thread? L, BC, and Incog have decided that killing the most obvious green in our town is the way to play the game. It doesn't matter if those guys are mafia, we need to kill innocents. OMG RAPED LOL | ||
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On March 09 2010 14:14 L wrote: Yeah i'm having you killed day 1 of any game you're in with me. On March 10 2010 09:06 L wrote: Its an honest question. I know how to make the upside down question marks using alt + numpad, but it seems like malongo switched over very suddenly after the earthquake hence me asking. Also bill murray dies on day 1. Don't care. Has to be done. On March 11 2010 09:44 L wrote: Mayor elections. I am announcing my candidacy for office. (i'd highly prefer mayor so that I can kill bill murray). On March 12 2010 23:39 L wrote: "I want to kill you" Sorry broski On March 13 2010 09:47 L wrote: Yeah, so I'm going to kill Bill Murray if voted in. He's 100% wrong about me, and every single post of his has been an attempt to incriminate me. On March 14 2010 06:59 L wrote: I mean, I don't even understand why you'd try to use hindsight to justify a literally TO THE MINUTE voteswing. When I die and flip whatever I flip, you can take responsability by dying the next day (unless I die tonight, in which case kill bill murray first. On March 15 2010 02:42 L wrote: target for killing tonight is still bill murray. On March 16 2010 08:37 L wrote: [/b]"Kill BM today, have him flip green" Why? On March 17 2010 08:11 L wrote: You're our next lynch target. Period. I'm also predicting that someone is going to be played the fool this game, and will be bragged and lorded over like chez brags about catching ace | ||
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If you really do want to win, and you're green or blue, Don't lynch me. We need to get a red. Lets put our heads together here, one person MAY be able to do everything; however, the town needs to help itself collectively. I tried to do everything, to take your pms, and to categorize what roles people claimed in order to catch reds, but you all wouldn't let me into your trust. The only person who PMed me their role was XeliN, and I am not going to disclose that information at this time. | ||
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On March 19 2010 03:02 L wrote: You didn't try to do anything besides paint me red the entire game. Sorry bucko. Too little too late. XeliN, I really fucking hope you're the vig, because if you claimed anything else people are probably going to need to die for it. Ive painted multiple people red, you're not the only one. I've put heat on about 6 people. Malongo, ~OpZ~, MadnessMan, you, l10f, Fulgrim... I'm suspicious of citi.zen, incognito, bloodyc0bbler, foolishness a lot. I'm suspicious of Versatile, Madnessman, XeliN, d3_crescentia, but less so than the ones I named before. I know that the latter could have a few reds, but I feel like the godfather will either be you or one of the 4 i'm suspicious of. It has to be someone who is good if Malongo wasn't the Godfather. It is probably someone who ran for office... d3_crescentia had a few voters, perhaps it is him. i have nothing to provide other than speculation, though, as I haven't really seen anyone give anything up that paints them red. All we can really do is go based upon activity, and to that extent I see no reason why I am the one who is up for lynch as I am the most active person within this thread. I am trying to analyze everyone, but it is hard to convince 17 people that you're a pretty good guesser. If you all let me decide who to lynch I'm pretty sure I could pick a red. | ||
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im going to be green, though, if you all are really interested. i dont understand why the fuck people keep voting for me. it makes no fuckin sense. | ||
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On March 19 2010 08:28 L wrote: Anyways, once night falls I'm going to explain what our strategy for upcoming lynches is. For the last time, I kinda want to know who the vig is, because we need an extra hit for tonight. We're kinda about to head into a section where we carpet bomb people with certain shared characteristics, so we need all available KP, hence the double lynch. I just said that I wanted mafia kill power down, and you say "we need all available KP". Explain that please........ I hope you're not talking about mafia KP | ||
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Bill Murray was betrayed by his comrades, and killed by those dirty ukrainians. or , Bill Murray, the miller, was betrayed by his comrades, and killed by those dirty ukrainians. this accounts for 100% of the possible scenarios. | ||
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just try to fish out who the mafia bus driver is so that he can't create any chaos. | ||
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On March 19 2010 09:43 L wrote: See, what's the point of this? If you did something like 'Hey bros, before I die, check this out: it'll help when I'm confirmed innocent via lynch', cool. This however just says 'hey bros don't kill me lol'. First game every day. I'm going to push for your death. Every. Game. you mean first day every game? you are such an idiot. you can't even spell responsibility lol | ||
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On March 14 2010 10:50 Vivi57 wrote: I'd be fine with an L lynch tomorrow. I've been suspicious of him from the start and was actually considering arranging a voteswitch off L to make him not pardoner myself. Now L is going OMGUS towards bill over a clearly town intended wagon. He's either scum pushing for a mislynch to delay the town or he's town still butthurt about being killed last game and trying to get revenge. But even though I wasn't there, I will stand behind keeping L out of office as a pro town play. He refused to claim as a dt, even denying being a dt completely, all the while talking about the "other" dt. Now he's pushing towards a townie's lynch. Seriously, don't let L get away with this so easily. You all will shortly find out that I am, as I've been screaming for the past 48+ hours, an innocent townie. You can take this, and let L off the hook, or you can actually do something about it. He hinted about multiple roles previously to his SELECTING what role he's going to be appearing as. Mad Hatter was the obvious choice, but I honestly don't feel like he had made up his mind yet. He hinted about DT, Driver, etc. Perhaps he would have picked DT had he not seen BC openly claim. I really do feel like L is the most likely candidate for the Godfather. Unlike him vs. me, I like him and have nothing against him. I am seriously trying to help you all before I die. Mad Hatter is the obvious choice for him because it gives a reason why he wasn't lynched when he is the most obvious candidate if he wasn't really red. He pretty much has to be red based upon the fact that he's still alive You really think that if he wasn't red he would get away with living multiple nights when he failed to get bodyguard protection? use your heads! | ||
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I feel like these people, with L, are the most likely to be red I feel like ~OpZ~/Xelin/Versatile/tree.hugger are green | ||
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May I R.I.P. | ||
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On March 19 2010 10:29 Fishball wrote: Let's see, 5 posts within 20 minutes of death. I wonder how many more times you'll post. depends how many times youll keep responding to me with a sucky tone | ||
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