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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 01:57 GMT
#881
BloodyC0bbler Votes: 8
Vivi57
tree.hugger
Incognito
Zona
Fulgrim
Iaaan
johnnyspazz
CynanMachae

Incognito Votes: 7
Versatile
Abenson
XeliN
Fishball
madnessman
JeeJee
Bill Murray

L Votes: 6
Malongo
~OpZ~
citi.zen
l10f
sidesprang
Foolishness

d3_crescentia Votes: 3
nemY
BloodyC0bbler
L
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 01:57 GMT
#883
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 13 2010 09:18 Bill Murray wrote:
I'd also like to re-iterate that the public conception of me and it's perception of me make it plain to see that the chances of my being red are literally slim to none. In this instance, I implore you all to shift votes towards me and enable my creation of a town circle. I am not going to ask you to roleclaim to me in PM, but I ask you to at least consider PMing me so we can have a nice talk. This will enable me to analyze the way that people are PMing me, and I can organize files on you within a sort of "portfolio" word document. I'm not going to be quoting you if necessary, I would just like to start taking the way that you act and what your opinions of helping the town are. I will be "going door to door" so to speak, pming everyone so that I at least send a pm to every town aligned player.

Sorry to those of you who are red that I will be pming, but please don't reply to it.
I don't feel like talking to you at this time. If you would like to admit it, that's fine, but I would personally rather you didn't. I'm trying to have fun catching you. Those of you who want to catch MAFIA with me SPEAK UP. Other than Incognito(with his town archives), and possibly bloodyc0bbler (with his plan in the position that we have 2 dts, checkable in office[i don't trust that, btw, because i feel like he could be a godfather claiming dt {if he wins the election first that is}]).

I, S.C.R.F. am running for Mayor. With only 2 hours until the voting closes, we need to prevent L from having to kill himself when he comes into office. It's ok L, we love you. We want you to live a couple nights. If elected, I promise not to lynch L.

I would lynch Malongo. From the get go, he was backing L.
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Malongo Chile. March 11 2010 11:28. Posts 2786 PM Profile Blog Quote
dont be a pussy ^ trust that guy seems legit.
posting that right underneath

When called on it, sure, he may have started arguing with him some. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I feel like his late candidacy was a ploy by the mafia to make it look like he was green. It is also fishy because at that point L was behind significantly.

L is a lot harder to pin, but I'll just use the fact that he's lying through his teeth.

"On March 11 2010 05:04 L wrote:
I got a role that makes me want mayor. Mayor is DT checkable in this game, keep that in mind, so even if the other DT wants to check, he can, then the confirmed train can go to town."

On March 12 2010 11:47 L wrote:
"Am I L?

Oh, looks like I am.

Hence if I'm running as green, I'm going to kill myself as confirmation in the part of a larger plan."

I'm really interested in his role. If he's not the DT himself, which from this point on I don't really consider he is even if he shows up as that in a rolecheck, I would have the DT rolecheck L tonight.

Onto MadnessMan:
Show nested quote +

On March 12 2010 09:27 madnessman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 09:08 Iaaan wrote:
I originally voted for incognito just because I thought it would be nice to protect a veteran who posts alot. No ses pools of noobiness/inactivty.

But, I'm changing my vote to BC, simply because he looks like the candidate that is easiest to hold accountable. L is quite ambiguous. Not answering questions/confirming things and posting lots of walls of text.

Also, I think that whichever of the three doesn't win will probably be the first person lynched if they aren't mafia.


I originally dismissed L as well for his hoity-toity posting, but after reading his posts more closely, I am pretty convinced he's town-aligned. I wouldn't say his posts are gems "chock full of chocolatey goodness," but they DO have a lot of substance. It's just that his rhetoric/phrasing make it very easy to miss what he implies. As such, I don't think he should be readily dismissed as a candidate just because he is not confirming things... My personal guess would be that he's vigil/bus driver.


MadnessMan is basically a radio advertisement for L's campaign. He did the same thing for BC, sure, but he's blindly sticking with the weakest of the 3 candidates whenever he is a very analytical person. He knows L is scummy, because he is scummy himself, so he has to shift his playstyle away from what he has been doing in previous games to try and hide the fact that he's red. Not this time, the jig is up.

Fulgrim wrote something that I found interesting too. "Especially since its not critical if we lose the sheriff role to a godfather, because even if we do there would be no way to tell by simple DT chekcs." This alone wouldn't ring any alarm bells, but I am reminded of a line by L stating that he needs the mayor's spot.

Last but not least is ~OpZ~. He has been the least active of them, having real life commitments, and he comes out with that as his excuse for being red, maintaining KP, and not giving himself away. Seems and feels scummy to me. I would consider lynching him if people wanted to save Malongo in large numbers (if I was Mayor, which I won't be).

University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 01:58 GMT
#885
Well, I know I'm a townie. Rolecheck me if you want to mister mayor.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 02:02 GMT
#889
I feel like you've been acting a lot scummier than I have, zona.
I am all but confirmed green at this point, as I was very outspoken against Malongo.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 02:13 GMT
#896
I'm getting off here... too much smoke and too many mirrors.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 17:23 GMT
#934
L has wanted me killed this whole game. Also, how can me accusing someone of being red, and them ending up as red, make me look red?

If I was red, I would want to win. I am a competitive fuck. There's no way in fucking hell I would accuse someone from my own team. You all are really dumb if you think I'm red.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 17:23 GMT
#935
Furthermore, I sat and f5ed the voting thread to make sure Malongo didn't vote. The minute he voted, or showed up with an excuse, I was changing my vote.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 17:29 GMT
#936
What made me finalize my decision on Abenson was his shifting his vote in minutes following mine when I put mine on L sort of as an abstaining measure. I didn't expect anyone to follow me to L, and nemY did, but that's his style. He would abstain any time he could. My putting it on him was sort of a joke. That isn't to say that I don't take lynching seriously, I do, and I have to admit that if I didn't know that I was green I would really believe I was red based upon L's post. Bravo, there, sir.

It's just that I know I got a green role from the pm, so all that shit falls short with me... I'd be thrilled if L offered himself up for lynch when I flip green, because I'd love for him to get killed off with me, but when I flip green he will make a 50 line post stating that it's not his fault that I was green and anyone would think that I was red... yadda yadda yadda.

I also am not trusting of some of the people who have been giving fairly good analysis. I am not trusting of the people who are praising those people for giving said analysis. In fact, there are only a few people I feel like are green... Iaaan being one. If you want to know a few others, feel free to pm me. If you don't want to, that's fine. I'm not going to force you or beg you.

I'd like to ask you all to not lynch me, though. It will be wasteful. I am the only person I know who is green. If I wasn't saying I was green, I would understand you guys. If you all knew me better, you would know that I DON'T LIE.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 17:32 GMT
#938
Show nested quote +


uh, i went to bed. and now i'm checking the thread while getting ready for work. am i supposed to be reading this thread 24/7? you've been coming @ me in a very slick way all game long. you seem to love typing my name. remember when you asked me for my opinion on BC and asked me to post in here? well, i did. i don't remember you responding. were you planning to? are you going to elaborate on your suspicions of BC, especially since you've been "collecting intel" on him through PMs? you set that trap yet,buddy?


Don't worry this will be sorted out by tonight.



What's funny is he was pushing for me to put heat on Malongo. That, to me, is the only reason I don't feel like he's red. The fact that I put heat on Malongo, MadnessMan, and L among others should show that I am not red.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 17:37 GMT
#939
+ Show Spoiler +
You could...make a list of who you think to be innocent. Right now we have way too many suspects. We need to narrow them down.

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Original Message:
Well other than informing people you have my stamp of approval, I don't know what I can do. I voted for you twice, and trust you more then BC.


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Original Message:
Mafia could say that too. Posting that doesnt mean anything. Either we can act on this or do nothing. Otherwise its just empty words.

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Original Message:
It shows that you care about the town. It makes people trust you. It could form a town circle around you. I would defend it.

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Original Message:
What would posting this do? All I can see is...it makes you look more suspicious. When you don't die.

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Original Message:
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Original Message:
I don't want to waste a lynch. I want mafia to waste a hit."


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Original Message:
Uh post what?

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Original Message:
can/may i post that in the thread?

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Original Message:
I don't want to waste a lynch. I want mafia to waste a hit.

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Original Message:
i'm jk btw. if you want to waste a lynch/hit on me though through pm that's cool.


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Original Message:
Seriously? I don't want to do it for you if you don't want me to. Or maybe I'll ask again tomorrow when you're sober.

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Original Message:
call me out as medic.

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Original Message:
Oh hey also you said in thread you don't mind if we lynch you if you're green. So wouldn't you like it better if I called you out as vig to make the mafia waste a hit on you instead of the town?

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Original Message:
NP MR. red.


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Original Message:
Oh so if you're green I guess you wouldn't mind taking one for the team? I can out you as vig in thread for ya. Save the real vig for a day.

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Original Message:
i'm green...........or miller


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Original Message:
No im warning you that if you're blue and are trying to hide it, you're not doing a very good job. If you're green, well, then good job.

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Original Message:
dude, are you fuckin red or somethin'?(took off the g and replaced it with '

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Original Message:
btw your posts make it sound like you're trying to hide the fact that you're blue.

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Original Message:
Malongo moreso, though versatile is doing the "halfway inactive/ i'm going to post when i need to" tactic.... Malongo seemed really delayed on his candidacy, that is suspicious as fuck to me, but i'm not going to put my name out there on the basis that he could be green. losing fulgrim and vivi is HUGE to the town..... L can play it off ALL he wants, but that is fucking huge. those people sit behind the scene and soak everything up and in.... their analysis ... we're missing that late-game now... that could be huge.


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Original Message:
Are you a vig? Tentatively we need kill suspects. Right now I'm looking at Malongo/Versatile. What do you think?

Its generally considered bad play for town to selfishly attempt to avoid dying. There could be strategic reasons for doing so, but I highly doubt you're going to claim to have any of those.

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Original Message:
"Unless of course you're someone like Ver."
I must be. I want to survive AND win. I'm town, man, either trust me or don
't.

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Original Message:
Ah ok. So the archive thread has gotten you to post more quality stuff. Yes, I can see that. Before you started pming me, I thought you were most assuredly town. But your last few pms have made me question.

As an addendum to my last pm, I'm going to say that townies should not be afraid of dying. Unless of course you're someone like Ver. The goal is to help the town win, not to survive as long as possible. Sacrifice is sometimes necessary. Plus, I think the mafia have better targets than you atm. Don't be afraid to post, don't be afraid of dying.

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Original Message:
I have been posting just as much as I normally do, except that it's 5 paragraphs instead of 1 line. The reason I have been posting a lot less is because other people are posting a lot less, so it takes less to get heard, and that I hate having to archive everything. If I posted 80 one liners, or a post with 50 lines in it, which is easier to archive?

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Original Message:
Yeah the thread is kinda dead. Townies like you should step it up and actually post your suspicions. If L lynches you though...I don't think it will impact the thread too much. Seriously you haven't been posting a ton this game like you normally do.

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Original Message:
you think the thread is dead now? will be even worse if people let L be mayor and he lynches me.

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Original Message:
Hmm ok, but why did you pm me this instead of posting in thread? We need more thread discussion

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Original Message:
i agree with you that they're not active, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're mafia. Neither does the fact that they're better players. the list is randomized.

i feel like malongo is mafia, though. take into consideration i have usually been wrong in the past. i just feel like he has been acting relatively scummy this game.



PMs with Incognito
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 17:37 GMT
#940
Bold = mine.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:02 GMT
#944
omg dude, i've been on IRC once in the past 5 years, and it was when TeamLiquid was down for maintenance during the time that Mystlord was about to stream some pro scene. do NOT say I get on IRC. Don't ask me to speak to the mods about you making falce accusations about me using IRC. I DO NOT USE IRC.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:03 GMT
#945
"ok legit townie suspicions"

thanks for admitting your real analysis L.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:04 GMT
#946
I am a legit townie.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:04 GMT
#947
The town really should come around me. People who are pushing my lynch are scummy, because I am trying to win the game for the town.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:04 GMT
#948
I am even going back into my obvious spamming of the thread... what color was I when I did that?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:05 GMT
#949
I also revealed a lot of people's meaningless PMs when I was town...... hmmmmm.... as Blue I fucked myself in PMS......... as red? I HAVEN'T EVER BEEN RED IN MAFIA. I WISH I WAS LOL
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:05 GMT
#950
Excuse me for pushing votes... it's the only fucking ability I have.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:16 GMT
#952
If you really want to paint me red, that's fine. You've been trying to say that you wanted to lynch me for no reason at all all game. I, on the other hand, believe that you are green or blue. I guess you could be black, but that's very unlikely. I also have reasons to believe that Incognito is town aligned, as shown from my PMs. That leaves BloodyC0bbler to be the only person who ran for the mafia besides Malongo. It is interesting to note that BloodyC0bbler was down in the voting during the time 7-6-6 that Malongo ran. L immediately wrote that off. This made me believe that you are blue. Maybe you were simply campaigning, but I felt the anger in you from that post.

I do not believe Malongo was the only red candidate, simply was a candidate to try and take votes away from the other candidates and dillute the pool. I feel like that it was also an attempt to make someone look blue or green. He ran so late that he didn't expect to win anything and be rolechecked.

I'm not sure if they had him killed on purpose, but I speculate that that could be the case. I am leaning towards BC or Incognito. Incognito definitely has been acting funny... BC was a bit more quiet the game he as a Mad Hatter.... he did feel pretty comfortable when I talked to him and Ace on IRC about Malongo being red.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:17 GMT
#953
yea, sorry for the spam, and sorry for the tone, but i don't feel like dying and the town losing another player.
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