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The main accusation raised against Malongo is that he hasn't been very active:
Malongo has also gone mysteriously missing after his bid for office. Soon after posting, he was called out, and never responded. Which is always unsettling. Furthermore, he usually posts more material. Sometimes its not very useful material, but he always has some material. Either way, this is different for Malongo.
Abenson, the other guy with many votes is... being Abenson as far as I can tell, but also making some interesting mistakes - ie "I think that the most important part is to have the dt's post their results."
So if I have to choose I'll go with Abenson at this time, but it's more for lack of better candidates than conviction.
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On March 15 2010 23:24 Abenson wrote:
Hello, I am back and have gotten caught up with the whole thing.
I have realized that I am to be lynched if this goes on, but I think this is wrong.
This is because:
a) I have shown no obvious signs of being mafia so far, other than inactivity. I am still in high school and it's currently march break, so I'm generally off somewhere or playing Starcraft with my friends.
b) I, as myself, would not like to be lynched.
c) As someone have said, nobody has come to defend me yet, this means that the mafia or anyone isn't trying hard to save me. Therefore I think this is sufficient proof that I have nobody working with me.
d) As for the "dt's post their results" is because I think that it is perfectly logical; And also I really have nothing better to post at the time and wanted to contribute.
Finally, I would like to say that lynching someone simply because of lack of candidate is generally a bad idea. It is wasting valuable lynches and plus I haven't really done anything that is suspicious.
Ok - who would you lynch instead?
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On March 16 2010 03:58 Versatile wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 02:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Let's have a look how many people are attacking BC. Is he really that suspicious, or should we be taking a look at two people that have taken to trying to say he is worthless. That's bad for unity people.
who else said he's worthless? don't be grouping me up with anyone else, yo. and fcuk unity, wth is this the special olympics? are we in a queen latifah video? you don't get points just for trying, this isn't high school phys ed. loser. i think BC is playing shady, i think it's shady he was the last viable candidate in the pool for mayor and he somehow won with a convenient DT claim, and i think it's shady he still hasn't posted concrete info to prove he is in a fact a DT. all in all, there's quite a bit of trees in here, and i'm looking for the sunlight.
Yeah, the ~Opz~ post was weird. "Unity" and too much shared information among unproven people is a bad thing. Everyone needs to play carefully until we get a breakthrough of some sort, either by catching a red or from the DT(s).
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How about ~Opz~ instead of Abenson or Malongo? Both Incognito and BC had him as a suspect. Even L liked him best from incognito's list. I've gone back through his posts and I would be quite comfortable lynching him.
What do we think?
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Yeah, you should be ashamed of yourself .
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Who cares what BM is? There is no way it can "prove" jack about L. Also, thanks for the geneorus "offer" - as if I can enforce anything by myself - rolf.
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On March 16 2010 09:04 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 08:59 citi.zen wrote:
Who cares what BM is? There is no way it can "prove" jack about L. Also, thanks for the geneorus "offer" - as if I can enforce anything by myself - rolf. I'd kinda like to kill a mafia member, so I care if he's red. You should probably care too if you want to think about who's mafia and who isn't.
Nice attempt to distract, but it fails, again.
Let me explain it slower: of course we care what BM is (duh - what a non-starter); however, Bill's color proves nothing about you, so the "offer" to be killed if Bill is not red is yet more nonsense from you.
If Bill is Red, any of the following could be true:
1. You're red too, trying to gain credibility. I've seen you play as mafia and turning in other mafia to gain credibility. It failed, by the way. Bonus quote (hi!):
On March 10 2010 13:44 L wrote:
Dear Bill,
If we were both mafia, I'd still want you dead because you're terrible and would probably ruin our plans, be afk during important votes, do stupid shit in PMs, forget to post in thread because you're on IRC pretending you have a big penis, etc.
Yours cordially,
- L
P.S. If you're not mafia, I'm happy regardless. If I'm town, I'm happy we have one less retard shitting up the thread. If I'm mafia; Lol ur dead choo choo pain train.
2. You are not red. Then you either took a lucky guess (in which case you'd say "oops!"), or you are speaking for a DT who role-checked him. In this case I question the DT's choice of 1st night check (lord help us), and wonder why you did not in fact state this in the thread, or use someone else to speak it for you. Because really, you have not made anything resembling a strong case against Bill thus far.
You build much of "reputation" on "holding people accountable", yet in this game all you have done is try to cover up nonsense with more nonsense. I don't care that you are doing it on purpose, it is not helping the town.
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On March 16 2010 09:55 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 09:52 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:04 L wrote:On March 16 2010 08:59 citi.zen wrote:
Who cares what BM is? There is no way it can "prove" jack about L. Also, thanks for the geneorus "offer" - as if I can enforce anything by myself - rolf. I'd kinda like to kill a mafia member, so I care if he's red. You should probably care too if you want to think about who's mafia and who isn't. Nice attempt to distract, but it fails, again. Let me explain it slower: of course we care what BM is (duh - what a non-starter); however, Bill's color proves nothing about you, so the "offer" to be killed if Bill is not red is yet more nonsense from you. If Bill is Red, any of the following could be true: 1. You're red too, trying to gain credibility. I've seen you play as mafia and turning in other mafia to gain credibility. It failed, by the way. Bonus quote (hi!): On March 10 2010 13:44 L wrote:
Dear Bill,
If we were both mafia, I'd still want you dead because you're terrible and would probably ruin our plans, be afk during important votes, do stupid shit in PMs, forget to post in thread because you're on IRC pretending you have a big penis, etc.
Yours cordially,
- L
P.S. If you're not mafia, I'm happy regardless. If I'm town, I'm happy we have one less retard shitting up the thread. If I'm mafia; Lol ur dead choo choo pain train. 2. You are not red. Then you either took a lucky guess (in which case you'd say "oops!"), or you are speaking for a DT who role-checked him. In this case I question the DT's choice of 1st night check (lord help us), and wonder why you did not in fact state this in the thread, or use someone else to speak it for you. Because really, you have not made anything resembling a strong case against Bill thus far. You build much of "reputation" on "holding people accountable", yet in this game all you have done is try to cover up nonsense with more nonsense. I don't care that you are doing it on purpose, it is not helping the town. So you're saying that I'm covering up nonsense by trying to kill someone who clearly fucked our day 1 votes up? Ok. That's the end of me listening to you, goon.
Surprise, you're at it again - I call nonsense!
Pay attention: my post is not about who you are trying to kill, or whether Bill fucked up. It is about the fact that Bill's color proves nothing about yours. That is the one part you consistently ignore and just talk nonsense about other shit.
Like I said, play as you wish, but this ain't helping.
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Malogo is inactive, that is all. It's not a "tell" - he can do far better if he is mafia trying to actually play the game. He didn't even try to blend in, he just fell off the radar. It's blind luck now if he is red, not skill on our part.
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On March 16 2010 10:11 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 10:01 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:55 L wrote:On March 16 2010 09:52 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:04 L wrote:On March 16 2010 08:59 citi.zen wrote:
Who cares what BM is? There is no way it can "prove" jack about L. Also, thanks for the geneorus "offer" - as if I can enforce anything by myself - rolf. I'd kinda like to kill a mafia member, so I care if he's red. You should probably care too if you want to think about who's mafia and who isn't. Nice attempt to distract, but it fails, again. Let me explain it slower: of course we care what BM is (duh - what a non-starter); however, Bill's color proves nothing about you, so the "offer" to be killed if Bill is not red is yet more nonsense from you. If Bill is Red, any of the following could be true: 1. You're red too, trying to gain credibility. I've seen you play as mafia and turning in other mafia to gain credibility. It failed, by the way. Bonus quote (hi!): On March 10 2010 13:44 L wrote:
Dear Bill,
If we were both mafia, I'd still want you dead because you're terrible and would probably ruin our plans, be afk during important votes, do stupid shit in PMs, forget to post in thread because you're on IRC pretending you have a big penis, etc.
Yours cordially,
- L
P.S. If you're not mafia, I'm happy regardless. If I'm town, I'm happy we have one less retard shitting up the thread. If I'm mafia; Lol ur dead choo choo pain train. 2. You are not red. Then you either took a lucky guess (in which case you'd say "oops!"), or you are speaking for a DT who role-checked him. In this case I question the DT's choice of 1st night check (lord help us), and wonder why you did not in fact state this in the thread, or use someone else to speak it for you. Because really, you have not made anything resembling a strong case against Bill thus far. You build much of "reputation" on "holding people accountable", yet in this game all you have done is try to cover up nonsense with more nonsense. I don't care that you are doing it on purpose, it is not helping the town. So you're saying that I'm covering up nonsense by trying to kill someone who clearly fucked our day 1 votes up? Ok. That's the end of me listening to you, goon. Surprise, you're at it again - I call nonsense! Pay attention: my post is not about who you are trying to kill, or whether Bill fucked up. It is about the fact that Bill's color proves nothing about yours. That is the one part you consistently ignore and just talk nonsense about other shit. Like I said, play as you wish, but this ain't helping. I don't care what his colour proves about mine. I never said I'd be confirmed if he flipped, or mafia if he didn't. So why are you trying to put words in my mouth? Ah, lol, there I go again, talking to the goon. My bad. I hope your team made you GF this game because that would make my job easier.
ROLF - you are casually calling me red again? You never explained how my "voting pattern" made me look red last time by the way. Please delight us with your brilliance, great L.+ Show Spoiler +I'm not interested in your ad-hominem attacks and name calling.
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By the way, nice job changing your mind about what you did and didn't way again. Almost missed that one, you're pretty good at this.
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way=say. You changed your mind about implying red Bill = innocent L.
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On March 16 2010 10:20 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 10:19 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 10:11 L wrote:On March 16 2010 10:01 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:55 L wrote:On March 16 2010 09:52 citi.zen wrote:On March 16 2010 09:04 L wrote:On March 16 2010 08:59 citi.zen wrote:
Who cares what BM is? There is no way it can "prove" jack about L. Also, thanks for the geneorus "offer" - as if I can enforce anything by myself - rolf. I'd kinda like to kill a mafia member, so I care if he's red. You should probably care too if you want to think about who's mafia and who isn't. Nice attempt to distract, but it fails, again. Let me explain it slower: of course we care what BM is (duh - what a non-starter); however, Bill's color proves nothing about you, so the "offer" to be killed if Bill is not red is yet more nonsense from you. If Bill is Red, any of the following could be true: 1. You're red too, trying to gain credibility. I've seen you play as mafia and turning in other mafia to gain credibility. It failed, by the way. Bonus quote (hi!): On March 10 2010 13:44 L wrote:
Dear Bill,
If we were both mafia, I'd still want you dead because you're terrible and would probably ruin our plans, be afk during important votes, do stupid shit in PMs, forget to post in thread because you're on IRC pretending you have a big penis, etc.
Yours cordially,
- L
P.S. If you're not mafia, I'm happy regardless. If I'm town, I'm happy we have one less retard shitting up the thread. If I'm mafia; Lol ur dead choo choo pain train. 2. You are not red. Then you either took a lucky guess (in which case you'd say "oops!"), or you are speaking for a DT who role-checked him. In this case I question the DT's choice of 1st night check (lord help us), and wonder why you did not in fact state this in the thread, or use someone else to speak it for you. Because really, you have not made anything resembling a strong case against Bill thus far. You build much of "reputation" on "holding people accountable", yet in this game all you have done is try to cover up nonsense with more nonsense. I don't care that you are doing it on purpose, it is not helping the town. So you're saying that I'm covering up nonsense by trying to kill someone who clearly fucked our day 1 votes up? Ok. That's the end of me listening to you, goon. Surprise, you're at it again - I call nonsense! Pay attention: my post is not about who you are trying to kill, or whether Bill fucked up. It is about the fact that Bill's color proves nothing about yours. That is the one part you consistently ignore and just talk nonsense about other shit. Like I said, play as you wish, but this ain't helping. I don't care what his colour proves about mine. I never said I'd be confirmed if he flipped, or mafia if he didn't. So why are you trying to put words in my mouth? Ah, lol, there I go again, talking to the goon. My bad. I hope your team made you GF this game because that would make my job easier. ROLF - you are casually calling me red again? You never explained how my "voting pattern" made me look red last time by the way. Please delight us with your brilliance, great L. + Show Spoiler +I'm not interested in your ad-hominem attacks and name calling. This wasn't casual. You realize I called you a goon the last few times, right? Ie, vanilla mafia? Good lord you're bad.
Oh, please do follow up with your accusations.
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On March 16 2010 10:21 Incognito wrote:
f5 f5 f5 f5 Ooh I guess I'm win? Lol.
Good job man. Also nice we got rid of a miller.
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On March 16 2010 10:30 Bill Murray wrote:
That being said, he would be a very good person to protect if you're a medic..
WTF - no. The medics need to continue to protect the bodyguards. Incognito was right about the lynching tonight, and BC is claimed DT. Both of them need protecting. Not to mention Zona - who has had the best collection of posts of anyone thus far.
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On March 16 2010 14:58 nemY wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 10:50 Bill Murray wrote:
OK keep the roleclaims coming people. I can't believe anyone takes you seriously
Not even sure he takes himself seriously anymore. It's like he tried for ahile, but now reverted to the "old" bill.
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On March 16 2010 13:03 L wrote:Bill Murray is 100% mafia after today. Lets look at that brief period of pre lynch spam: Bill murray spams prior to the lynch: Show nested quote + If malongo is red his team are going to be raging
i hope malongo is red... i felt like he was... but i'm not usually good at telling Why would someone taunt like that? Well, its pretty easy to figure out. Bill is trying to distance himself from Malongo. But its not just that, lets look here: Show nested quote +Malogo is inactive, that is all. It's not a "tell" - he can do far better if he is mafia trying to actually play the game. He didn't even try to blend in, he just fell off the radar. It's blind luck now if he is red, not skill on our part. Citizen posts something decent. GJ. BM replies: Show nested quote +well, citi.zen, you don't know how many people i pm'ed saying i suspected malongo....
want me to retrieve them? Prior to Malongo even dying, BM is trying to play up his 'i wanted to kill him' status. Why? Lets look at the votelist: Here's the vote slightly before the end: Show nested quote +Abenson Votes: 7
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Fishball
d3_crescentia
Foolishness
madnessman
johnnyspazz
XeliN
citi.zen
Malongo Votes: 6
Incognito
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Bill Murray
~OpZ~ Not so terrible, but abenson's gonna die over malongo. If anyone's going to die, Mafia would MUUUUUUUUCH rather abenson than no one. Bill, shortly thereafter abandons the Malongo train. Hopping onto me. nemY follows suit. Bill then decides to fuck around and throw a vote on nemY. That shit don't make sense. Cynan and Sidesprang vote Malongo and Iaaan votes against sidesprang. Ok. So Cynan and sidesprang are probably legit. At this point, votes are tied with Abenson going to be killed. Zona throws a vote on Abenson, pushing him to 9. Show nested quote +Abenson Votes: 9
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Fishball
d3_crescentia
Foolishness
madnessman
johnnyspazz
XeliN
citi.zen
tree.hugger
Zona
Malongo Votes: 8
Incognito
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Bill Murray
~OpZ~
Abenson
CynanMachae
sidesprang Zona has just pushed abenson over the top. Is he mafia or just wanted another lynch? I dunno. But then shit goes crazy: Spazz, who's on Abenson, switches to Malongo, putting it to 9-8 in Malongo lynch territory. Spazz looks legit here. This is a bad outcome for mafia because they know Malongo's afk and they're trying to net a free kill. But then bill switches back to Abenson (9-9) and johnny throws the final vote off the malongo train onto bill on bill's insistence (9-8 Abenson). Once again, these last shifts happen LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES before the deadline. Basically, what do we have here? Its bill murray fucking with our votes again to get an innocent killed. But not only does he fuck with votes, he asks for roleclaims and tries to bolster his credibility before malongo even dies? Are you serious? How could he know malongo would flip red? Why would he, even before the flip, start building this 'i'm green' campaign?
This is not that bad. Also, given Malongo's death, I am more inclined to think you are likely town if BM flips red. I will seriously consider voting for Bill, unless something else happens between now and then.
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On March 17 2010 01:07 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2010 00:36 Versatile wrote:On March 16 2010 15:40 Incognito wrote:
Early game, Bill seems innocent.
End of Day 1, he sounds more fishy. Especially after the "drunk" posts. And repeatedly emphasizing his greenness.
Day 2 lynch final moments, even more fishy. I like L's analysis. Now that I go back to it, yeah, its funny how Bill is pre-emptively trying to show his support in favor of Malongo's lynch before Malongo flips red. While also voting to lynch Abenson. If Bill wasn't suspicious before now, he sure is now.
Other thoughts: I find it interesting how Versatile brings up an ultimatum on BC. Then proceeds to viciously attack the fact that BC isn't announcing people he's checked. Then, when BC responds, Versatile disappears. Something is not right here. The way they're going at each other, I'm guessing one of BC/Versatile are mafia. The question right now is, which one? Good question. Atm BC can be tested more than Versatile given BC's claim.
Zona's strongly pro-town posts seem to make him a good target for the mafia. Plus, Zona is also a BG, so double the goodies for the mafia. This, in my eyes, makes Zona a strong target for BD or medic protection. Good job Zona for making yourself a clear pro-town BG. That just makes it harder for the mafia to decide who to hit. uh, i went to bed. and now i'm checking the thread while getting ready for work. am i supposed to be reading this thread 24/7? you've been coming @ me in a very slick way all game long. you seem to love typing my name. remember when you asked me for my opinion on BC and asked me to post in here? well, i did. i don't remember you responding. were you planning to? are you going to elaborate on your suspicions of BC, especially since you've been "collecting intel" on him through PMs? you set that trap yet,buddy? Don't worry this will be sorted out by tonight.
Glad to hear, because right now it does not add up. I will resist the temptation to point fingers right now, but expect a coherent debrief tonight. In the meantime there isn't much to say.
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On March 17 2010 03:17 Bill Murray wrote:
yea, sorry for the spam, and sorry for the tone, but i don't feel like dying and the town losing another player.
It's OK, if you die green we've still got L to hold accountable, as he himself suggested. However, all this will happen after the next night phase, where we were promised clarifying revelations from Incognito and BC.
So for now relax, stop spamming, and wait for the fireworks. One way or another they will be coming.
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