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On March 11 2010 01:21 nemY wrote:


Obvious vet role imo

On March 11 2010 00:07 citi.zen wrote:
Elections will actually matter quite a bit this time around. Messy-messy... the reds must stop a DT(s) from getting in office. Blah... blah...blah. Lynching the busdriver may be the best strategy fr the town. 1337 indeed.

On March 11 2010 01:46 Bill Murray wrote:
i was sort of hoping i would be red

On March 11 2010 02:00 XeliN wrote:
First thing I think we need to organise it to set up a rule that punishes inactivity, I would suggest people who are obviously not contributing or posting should be prime suspects for us to lynch.

In a game without clues the only thing we have to go on is peoples posts so it's important.

As the first kill is a crapshoot mostly I'm currently going to be voting for Ace to be lynched, he annoyed the **** out of me last game.

On March 11 2010 02:49 Bill Murray wrote:

25 people, 5 mafia, 5 town blue roles, 1 blue role we have to ignore for sake of unknown alliance, and probably a couple millers. I'm assuming 2 Detective, 2 Medics, 1 vig, 1 mad hatter, 1 vet, 2 millers.

Does that seem about right?

On March 11 2010 04:32 Versatile wrote:
yes, but we don't know if we have two DTs, and since we don't know, how do you verify the 2nd DT?

ie) GF claims DT.
gets elected mayor.
DT confirms him as "innocent".

and then mafia member steps up as "2nd DT". only person who can confirm him is the other DT, and by then it's day 2 and the mafia could have hit him, or maybe he decides to use his rolecheck on someone else. so you've got 2 mafia parading around as innocents, and one of them has 3 votes.

i'm just saying, there are too many holes, and it's too risky to elect someone based on just their roleclaim.

and personally, i just wouldn't trust a roleclaim that early, especially from a blue.

if it were me, i'd try to get elected, and if i did, THEN i'd come out and say, "AHA! gotchu hoes. i'm a DT/medic/etc".

On March 11 2010 04:52 JeeJee wrote:


you know chezinu may post nonsense but at least it's readable nonsense xD

On March 11 2010 04:53 XeliN wrote:
Yeah citi.zen please don't make a habit of posting like this.

On March 11 2010 05:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
As for mayoral elections.

I, BloodyC0bbler, am running for office.

With the setup of this game, and the fact elected positions can be RC'd, the elected positions are far more likely to end up in townie hands. This is a good thing, and I believe it is in our best interests to make sure town can get in.

I believe that I would be a good candidate because I have many games worth of experience, a few as an elected official, and others where I have have helped in the pinning of reds. I believe that from this experience I will be able to help the town quickly and hopefully bring about a swift end to the mafia.

The Plan:
The plan is simple. Whoever is elected (in this case I would love it to be me), but regardless, whoever is elected. The dt or dt's will both check the elected officials. I would say if your a dt and numbered 1-12 on the list, check the mayor, 13-25 check the pardoner. Instantly we have information. If they are a blue role you write it down. If they are red, speak up to someone (possibly wait a day to find a green person in a check). Reveal the findings, person dies.
If they are green, keep them on a seperate list.

Soon as you get two greens, RC them, and tell them who you checked and start a circle.
If you get blues. Keep that info to yourself until you need it proved. If you find a dt, make them check someone (most likely one you've checked to confirm), medic prot someone, vig hit someone, etc...

Anyone who flips red dies.

For all those who are not a dt. Constantly update your posts in the archive thread, and carefully analyze peoples posting behaviours. If you think something is a tell, or feel they are scummy, rather than just point a finger, really sit down and prove it. But be aware that if you cause the death of an important player and they flip town, you will prob quickly follow.

Medics, protect the bgs with your life. We will randomly pick one from the list of two, and then tell you to prot them.

Past protecting the bgs, no one talk to them in PM's, IM's, or IRC, period. They are not confirmable, do not associate with them. They can talk via thread, feel free to respond to them here, do not tell them anything.

Conclusion:
This game can be won very easily if we play it smart. I believe outside of my general plan to play, the reason I should be elected is I believe I will represent a threat to the mafia, which means they will have to actively try to remove me, which will give themselves away. If they don't I will continue to strengthen the town, and effectively force them to GG.

Michael: My father is no different than any powerful man, any man with power, like a president or senator.
Kay Adams: Do you know how naive you sound, Michael? Presidents and senators don't have men killed.
Michael: Oh. Who's being naive, Kay?

On March 11 2010 05:51 Versatile wrote:
the only reason that post isn't completely useless is because of the corleone quote.

On March 11 2010 06:34 Zona wrote:
Wait - both elected roles aren't immune to rolechecks?
I skipped over that part - this is pretty major change. It's a huge disincentive for mafia to run for the role...unless there are no detectives at all in this game and the whole detective thing is just a red herring.

On March 11 2010 01:17 Zona wrote:
Looks like the game's started - we have to scrutinize the people who run for elections very closely.

Yes, some strong players in all likelyhood will be mafia. But it is still good to have strong elected officials. Elected officials are under a lot of scrutiny. They also usually take on a very active role in town affairs. The more they're on the spotlight, the easier it is to catch them if they are mafia.

On March 11 2010 11:34 Incognito wrote:


Uh a bit confusing here. But what happens if the GF just picks green? Nothing to prove and nothing to hide. How do we abuse that instance?

On March 11 2010 05:32 citi.zen wrote:

Beware, this ain't fool proof. Don't say I didn't tell you. Watch for "green" politicians:

On March 11 2010 11:45 L wrote:

Why the fuck are you running for mayor as green?

If anyone is doing dumb shit like that I will drive the lynch bus straight down your face. These are confirmable spots; we can't confirm green beyond 'not goon'. We can confirm medic. We can confirm DT. We can confirm Driver (to a certain point).

The only reason you'd want to take green into the mayorship is by asking to die the next day as a method of verifying that you're legit and allowing a controlled claim to go through. Even then, I think we've had a grand total of one person try that and he didnt' try that, he feinted.

If you take the position that mafia's only going to run a single candidate, running as green seems even stupider; Mafia NEVER fail to get their candidate in if they want him there. EVER. So the idea that you'd step in to stop another mafia from getting in is absolutely retarded; you're taking the spot from a blue because you want to be cute and go "i pardon xyz, he's town for sureeeeeeeee" or throw a few extra votes around and pretend you're more important now that you aren't 'just' green.