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On March 11 2010 13:28 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2010 12:57 Fulgrim wrote:On March 11 2010 12:35 citi.zen wrote:+ Show Spoiler +From: Fulgrim [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Bonjour
Date: 3/11/10 12:26
Tu es rouge oui? C'est la verite? J'espere que je ne mort pas la derniere nuit.
Reply Keep'em coming. I'm so proud of typing that without a translator, pure skill alone. let's put my french course to work from like 7 years ago >.< you're red yes? it's the truth? something something dead last night? or next night, idk lol
The last sentence is: I hope I do not die the last night. Which doesn't make too much sense...but ok.
On a more serious note, suspects. Ah this thread is so...slow. As we all know, the mayor gets an autolynch. Anybody have opinions? I'd start off by prodding the people on the bottom of the activity list. Of course it could be that you haven't been around since the game has started yet. Anyway...
1. d3_crescentia
2. l10f
3. sidesprang
4. Fishball
5. Vivi57
6. Iaaan
7. Foolishness
8. ShoCkeyy
9. tree.hugger
All have under 5 posts. Including pre-game posts. I'd like to hear from all of you. We can't find the mafia if you guys don't post, ya know.
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These people have come out and have voted or posted in the archive thread, but have made less than 5 posts. This includes pre-game posts.
2. l10f
5. Vivi57
6. Iaaan
9. tree.hugger
Explanations appreciated.
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Awesome. Another out of the blue vote for the Cobbler. Anybody care to explain?
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On March 11 2010 14:00 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2010 13:58 Incognito wrote:
Awesome. Another out of the blue vote for the Cobbler. Anybody care to explain? Anybody care to explain why these phantom voters like you/cobbler over me? 
You're getting a decent amount of love. You and I have been posting frequently enough. But BC seems to have just made one giant post and then not that much else since.
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On March 11 2010 14:02 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2010 13:58 Incognito wrote:
Awesome. Another out of the blue vote for the Cobbler. Anybody care to explain? he roleclaimed to me. I could roleclaim for him in the thread if you want.
Wha wha what?? That seems way more fishy than L's partial claim...Don't bother claiming for him. Just think about what you've done...and state your logical reason why you should believe said claim.
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Interesting here. I have limited time, have to go to work soon, but I have this strange feeling that all the top three probable GF contenders are all town. If that is the case, our advantage is huge. Imba, maybe, but plausible, in which case we keep a strong eye on Malongo/Foolishness/Fishball.
Reasons why I think L is town: He wants to be rolechecked. He wants to kill green officeholders. Which means he's either blue or GF. If he's GF, it will be hard to fake a blue role. I don't think a mafia would forcefully put themselves on the spot so willingly. For now, I see L as a pretty safe choice.
Reasons why I think BC is town: He says that he claimed to three people. Claiming DT to three people is a pretty bad idea if you're mafia. You'd preferably keep it to one so you can kill off that member if you decide you are being found out. Now we don't have proof about the other two people he told, but I don't know if he'd make that bad of a lie. Who knows. I'll think about it some more. We still have one more day to decide who we want for positions.
Will post some more later tonight.
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On March 12 2010 14:29 Iaaan wrote:
I actually changed my mind about what I said about L, your posts do add alot to the game IMO, but again BC is easier to hold accountable that the other candidates for his actions if he is false claiming DT. Unless im mistaken, your saying your not a DT, which to me seems like the only confirmable role. A mafia pretending to be a medic can simply say they are protecting someone, then simply not hit them at all. A vigilantee is a one time use, and a you could just use one of your mafia KP to fake a vigi hit. Vets are probably better to not be in office. If your green and you have a 'larger plan,' thats great, but again it seems fakeable and probably less useful than a DT in office.
Also if you don't win the election and your not red, your dead night 1 anyway. A veteran who has been hinting he is blue? why would the mafia pass that opportunity up? I don't see how not claiming at this point protects you. I hope you have a good plan that justifies you hinting instead of roleclaiming. Even if you roleclaim once you win, DT is still easier to confirm than any other town role.
The problem with that is that for the medic to actually convincingly look pro-town, they have to claim that they're protecting good pro-town players. Which in itself limits the mafia killing pool to sub-optimal players. The thing that throws a wrench in this is the mafia-aligned bus driver, however. While difficult to prove, it would obviously look fishy when the elected official says "oops it must have been the mafia aligned bus driver!" I don't think there's that much to worry about there. Vig is confirmable. You'll know when theres 3 hits instead of 2. All these examples you give are plausible yes, but it would make the elected official super suspicious and would likely result in the official's death. I don't think theres much to worry about there.
May I ask, how is BC easier to hold to account than the other candidates?
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The non-posters for L league?
On March 12 2010 16:26 sidesprang wrote:
I vote for L
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On March 12 2010 16:41 johnnyspazz wrote:
damn i might just change my vote so i don't get grouped with scummy looking people
Right. Because thats not scummy at all.
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On March 12 2010 16:45 johnnyspazz wrote:
well i wasn't trying to look scummy
this is what i want to happen: BC -> Mayor; L -> Pardoner
BC for mayor because apparently he's DT and DTs are very important
L for pardoner because he said he has a game winning plan that involves sacing himself as the pardoner
Wat. He never said that. Here we go again.
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On March 12 2010 23:30 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 16:36 Incognito wrote:The non-posters for L league? On March 12 2010 16:26 sidesprang wrote:
I vote for L The non-posters for Incog league? I mean, did you even look at who's voting for you?
Yeah that too. I wasn't saying that your vote train makes you red, I just thought it out and figured that most reds would prefer you in office over me. The only thing I don't get is why they'd want BC over me...protected DT would be hella hard to kill...unless BC is actually the GF. Interesting no?
CynanMachae looks red to me. Care to make any comments on the current situation?
Other than that, Abenson isn't being his usual self, and Versatile's been a bit quiet. I'll wait till you guys decide to respond before going on.
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On March 13 2010 01:32 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 01:12 citi.zen wrote:On March 13 2010 00:56 L wrote:On March 13 2010 00:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
L, why haven't you voted? I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. Also On March 11 2010 09:31 citi.zen wrote:
And L, you still cannot vote for yourself. Not even once, let alone twice. Sorry mate. I can't even remember the last game to allow people to vote for themselves. Weren't you the one accusing everyone of not reading carefully? La-la-la... I know what the rule is, I just think its dumb seeing as it hasn't always been that way. I'll vote later, probably for cobbler. And incog, why would mafia rather you in office rather than me? I know I'm not mafia, I also know I'm generally more active than you, and I've also stated that if I'm getting a role that can't be checked that I'm basically going to kill myself to have a full set of roleclaims. So pretty much no matter what I am, I'm claiming with the intent to prove it shortly thereafter. You, by contrast, are not offering any such game breaking attempts, yet you think mafia is more scared of you than me. But then you admit that you probably have like 3-4 fishy people voting for you. So how does that add up? It doesn't. I've got a paper due in 1.5 hours and I haven't even started formatting it, so I'll be back in 5.5 hours after transit/class is factored in.
Uh I didn't say mafia would rather have me in office than you. I said I think they'd prefer to have you in office. The reason is because, as you have already noticed, people are trying to discredit and doubt you. I'd think its much easier to discredit you than me, and thus the mafia might think that they can deal with you better in office than me. I'm not saying mafia will be scared of me, but that it will just be more difficult to get rid of me than you.
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Also L the only reason why you're more active is that you're responding to people's misinterpretations. And you can't claim that you have a game-breaking strategy yet when its not public. Stop thinking you're so pro-town.
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Day 1 lynch targets. Looks like the race is between BC and L. Who are you guys going to lynch?
I have a feeling Malongo/Foolishness/Versatile are good targets. All been quiet, all good enough to be mafia since I think the three candidates are town. They just haven't done enough for me to see them as town-sided. What does everyone else think?
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On March 13 2010 04:02 Iaaan wrote:
@incognito
It seems to me like the mafia will kill malongo/foolishness fairly quickly if they are town, because of their senority. I think it would be better to lynch someone out of the mafia's way, who is suspicious or likely will become suspicious. IE someone with useless/small amounts of posts that doesn't have a chance of being modkilled.
Hmm really? What if they're mafia? Then they won't die. What if they're suspicious (which they are)? They probably won't die. Mafia doesn't really have to worry about them right now. They're not doing much. Mafia have bigger problems. Like invincible blues. Or just blues in general.
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On March 13 2010 06:37 nemY wrote:
I think regardless of who gets elected the most important thing the DT(s) should NOT do is ROLE-CLAIM to the mayor/pardoner. The chances of one of them being GF is so high that it's just not worth it yet.
Unless the DT is telling other people about it too, you'd think a DT for GF trade is good, no?
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On March 13 2010 07:58 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 01:49 Incognito wrote:On March 13 2010 01:32 L wrote:On March 13 2010 01:12 citi.zen wrote:On March 13 2010 00:56 L wrote:On March 13 2010 00:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
L, why haven't you voted? I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. Also On March 11 2010 09:31 citi.zen wrote:
And L, you still cannot vote for yourself. Not even once, let alone twice. Sorry mate. I can't even remember the last game to allow people to vote for themselves. Weren't you the one accusing everyone of not reading carefully? La-la-la... I know what the rule is, I just think its dumb seeing as it hasn't always been that way. I'll vote later, probably for cobbler. And incog, why would mafia rather you in office rather than me? I know I'm not mafia, I also know I'm generally more active than you, and I've also stated that if I'm getting a role that can't be checked that I'm basically going to kill myself to have a full set of roleclaims. So pretty much no matter what I am, I'm claiming with the intent to prove it shortly thereafter. You, by contrast, are not offering any such game breaking attempts, yet you think mafia is more scared of you than me. But then you admit that you probably have like 3-4 fishy people voting for you. So how does that add up? It doesn't. I've got a paper due in 1.5 hours and I haven't even started formatting it, so I'll be back in 5.5 hours after transit/class is factored in. Uh I didn't say mafia would rather have me in office than you. I said I think they'd prefer to have you in office. The reason is because, as you have already noticed, people are trying to discredit and doubt you. I'd think its much easier to discredit you than me, and thus the mafia might think that they can deal with you better in office than me. I'm not saying mafia will be scared of me, but that it will just be more difficult to get rid of me than you. It was a rhetorical question. Ie, mafia would much rather have you in office sitting around nothing nothing as a green. Your statement here essentially implies that you aren't going actually step up and lead and be held accountable for the results. Somehow I don't see how that's a quality you should have. You know who's claimed to be the DT. You know he didn't want you to know, and you have no evidence supporting anything beyond that. Once we have a rolecheck or two to confirm his identity, we'll know things for certain.
Once again, I'm not green. Why do you keep saying that? Its just like everyone else saying you're DT.
I'm not implying that I'm trying to avoid leading. Yay reading comprehension. I'm looking at it from the a likely mafia point of view. You've done a good job painting me green, which may keep me alive once I lose office. Its harder to throw dirt on me. It would be simpler just to kill me. Its just a lot easier to discredit someone who posts abrasively and unclearly. Like you. So just look carefully at the people who vote you then try to plant seeds of doubt. That is all.
L seriously, who do you think of lynching if elected mayor?
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BTW I do have a plan, but like you L I will wait until tonight's DT checks come back before I spill the beans.
For now:
DT Check List:
CynanMachae
~OpZ~
Sidesprang
Medic Prot List:
Incognito
Bodyguard A
Bodyguard B
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Oh 2 notes:
1. The above assumes L and BC win offices.
2. Please refrain from deviating from this list unless you have VERY good reasons.
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Few quick things: Reading through the post now, I'm surprised to find that I'm pardoner now. I'm looking at the tail end of my train. madnessman, BM. Why the sudden switch? Seriously L was a perfectly good candidate. We have about half a dozen paranoid townies scared of L?
Rofl at Zona and Cynan being BGs. Those two were on the top of my suspect list yesterday. Zona not so much now after your collection of large posts. Its nice to see some people suddenly get active. Cynan, I'd love to hear from you too.
Medics. So remember in one of my earliest posts I stated we would randomly choose who the medics protect from the BGs. The time has come to reveal your pms. They should all say First.
Which is all cool. However, the First BG on the list is Cynan. Someone who I have suspicions about. Moreso than Zona. Protecting him would not do much methinks, unless I'm wrong. (Remember, mafia BGs do not protect innocent officeholders) Which is why we need Cynan to speak up. What do you think about recent events?
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