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Smh...oh well.
First I wasn't hit last night. I didn't get any notifications. Kind of sad 789 died v_v
As for Bill Murray being dumb - it doesn't save Abenson. Tomrrow Abenson is shooting Bill Murray.
Even if you think it's worthless to kill BM I say it's quite the contrary: You never want to go into the late game with stupid townies alive. Better off killing them now. Look at all the past Mafia games with shitty players left around in the end and you'll see why.
Tomorow night: Abenson shoots Bill Murray.
Detectives, since we couldn't get anything done today use the original list I posted and investigate starting with myself or the person after me.
Either way Abenson you're shooting BM tomorrow.
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Also after Abenson/BM is done, Shocckey is next to be shot.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On March 08 2010 09:16 Fulgrim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 08:37 Foolishness wrote:
Okay guys, let's open our eyes and try to be realistic here. I know this post is going to be ignored since usually everything I say before day 4 is null and void, but it needs to be said.
To every newcomer out there (which is pretty much 75% of the players in this game):
STOP KILLING PEOPLE AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION! YOURE NOT HELPING THE TOWN!
This post in particular is directed at BM and Malongo, but applies to everyone. Don't use your kill unless it has been decided upon by the town OR if you have really good information (i.e. you know a DT who checked someone).
Guys, don't kill someone just because you think they are mafia. Don't try to be a town savior right now. Why? Because it's not going to work. Right now, there's so little information going around that it's nearly impossible to pick off the right people.
What does this mean? YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT YOUR WHIMS! Don't kill someone because you think they are mafia. What you should do is post in the thread saying "I think person X is mafia for these reasons". This is good because it gets discussion going (which there is very little of right now).
THE FASTER THIS GAME GOES, THE BETTER CHANCE MAFIA HAS OF WINNING.
Mafia wants us to waste kills like we've been doing so far, without any discussion. They sit back and kill off people at night while stupid people kill within 30 min of it being day time. Right now, the mafia's probably orgasming at how retarded the town is, because at this rate, I don't see how the mafia can lose this.
To summarize: stop being retarded, town coordination is necessary to win this game. Right now we have zero of it. The thing is foolishness, this was said MANY TIMES already, in fact that's like all anyone posted for a long time, but it still happened. Even though we already said that whoever did it would die the next day.... IT STILL HAPPENED
Really? Where? Nobody has directly come and said this like I have. The only time anything of this sort has been mentioned is in passing. In passing does not cut it in mafia games. Nobody has made it directly obvious so far. Ace saying "okay I've got a plan, here it is, blah blah plan explain blah blah btw guys don't be retarded and kill on your own" is not good enough for the people playing this game.
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On March 08 2010 03:46 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 03:41 Fulgrim wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 08 2010 03:31 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 02:17 Ace wrote:
List order
dozko
Vivi57
Incognito
citi.zen
Meeple
XeliN
JeeJee
Bill Murray
CynanMachae
789
L
l10f
Fulgrim
d3_crescentia
Johnnyspazz
~OpZ~
Foolishness
Shockeyy
Nemy
Iaaan
Fishball
Sidesprang
Ace
Abenson
Plan of action:
dozko shoots Malongo unless there's a better target. I'm all for players that are clearly not thinking or criticizing the plan without giving us better options. Players that only criticize and offer nothing are playing anti-town and hence would be good to shoot.
DT check on Vivi57.
INVERT. THE. LIST. Dt check Ace, Abenson is the first to hit. Also JeeJee what have I missed? Quite frankly I don't see anything that you've said that isn't covered, so feel free to bring something up explicitly if you want me to deal with it. Fulgrim: Rofl, basically you're pulling a standard "don't tread on me". Pretty sure your overreaction to a rather weak suspicion is indicative of mafia or blue. It was more of the fact that you told me I was posting "shit", which I was pointing out you weren't doing much better, but whatever =). Why are people so opposed to everyone making a list, and pming it to two people and then those people will post the list of whoever dies tonight? Generally you need to actually be pointing out something that is true, and since I've been posting real content and you decided to take an upswing in activity by plopping out empty posts after someone threatened to kill inactives I've got a feeling that I'm still a shining white knight compared to you. Why would 1) everyone make a list 2) pm it to 2 people Is there a purpose there? Is there some importance to it? I mean I understand that we're going to try to randomize the list, but I really don't see why we'd do so in a way that lets people severely game the system and avoid detection. Additionally; Plans that require EVERYONE to do something (rather than not do something) never work. Not once. The only exception is a 100% confirmed townsperson asking for roleclaims.
Actually the idea of EACH killing person RE-randomizing the list and creating a new one is FAR superior than just following one list. Very simple, very easy, and very nice.
789 came up with this idea, which I agree with Ace, it's brilliant. Good shit 789.
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The important issue now is whether we should be killing Malongo/BM. Malongo can kill again tomorrow, BM will be able to kill again the next day. I am more inclined to trust Malongo to not just randomly kill someone again, but I don't have much confidence that BM wouldn't do it again even if he WASNT mafia. This CANT happen again, we got lucky that we had a medic prot (although noone has claimed to have been saved yet), so we aren't too far behind but we did lose L. I think that we should let malongo off, but i'm not so sure about BM.
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I agree. Even though Malongo was dumb, BM had ample time to see a good 5-6 people say the same thing. No idea wtf Foolishness is talking about.
Abenson proves he's town by shooting BM tomorrow. Terrible players set us back a day. Shit happens.
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I just got back and haven't read the thread yet, but I'm announcing that I've taken a hit.
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you know what, I'm tired of repeating myself. Keep playing stupid.
I propose we hold off on killing BM for one day. I said before DO NOT PM me. You insist on lurking and not contributing to the thread - I'm calling for your head.
From: ShoCkeyy [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Ace
Date: 3/8/10 03:46
If you're a confirmed green, please do not post this pm.
I need to know your role if you really want this town to win.
From: ShoCkeyy [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: ace please
Date: 3/8/10 10:04
I really need you to tell me your role if you want town to live. I'll roleclaim to you if you let me know what you are first.
Learn how to play or face consequences.
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On March 08 2010 10:07 Incognito wrote:
I just got back and haven't read the thread yet, but I'm announcing that I've taken a hit.
Haha, crazy shit happened. I agree that we can afford to wait to deal with BM until the next day because he has to wait that long before he can kill again.
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Lol crazy shit is happening everywhere in this thread. Wtf people are you out of your mind¿
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Either way Abenson you're shooting BM tomorrow.
i am just reiterating
THIS IS THE PLAN
Either way Abenson you're shooting BM tomorrow.
we are going to follow this. BM is dying because he shot someone only to cause chaos (self-admitted). that's anti-town behavior to a T. Abenson is shooting him because he's first in the inverted list.
if anyone fucks up this plan i am sure me or ace or anyone else will be happy to f5 the thread and kill you when the next day comes up within a second. god knows i have nothing better to do at work.
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A few things:
A. The Bill Murray situation
1. Bill should not have acted the way he did.
2. Bill is 99.99% green.
3. 75% sure Bill can be disciplined/trusted from this point on, if he feels he is kept in the loop & acting according to a shared plan.
I think it is a really bad idea to kill Bill, just like the other night I thought it was not smart to kill Malongo.
B. I find it odd some people keep insisting we kill confirmed but undisciplined greens: wasting another day on killing them only compounds the problem, putting the reds in a better spot. How come so few people challenged this nonsensical approach?!?
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citi.zen
what's stopping BM from randomly killing again the next day?
he didn't even have a reason to kill L. he said "i like to cause chaos"
you want this retard on your team?
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On March 08 2010 09:23 CynanMachae wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 09:18 Abenson wrote:On March 08 2010 09:07 CynanMachae wrote:On March 08 2010 09:01 JeeJee wrote:
Also I would like everyone's opinion on abenson this game. spamming shit and not stepping up when it was his turn to kill. comments? He is indeed spamming but he's been doing that the past two games and he was town in both. Tho, he indeed didn't step up when his turn came, but really I don't know if we can say much cause the town hadn't agreed on anyone to kill yet anyway. If he was green tho he would have been a bit more eager to prove himself tho << Actually I was a sumiyoshi last game Yes, spazz corrected me on this, my bad. Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 09:19 Abenson wrote:
Trying to decide whether or not I should make a huge celebration post regarding my icon Make a blog or something, but don't do it here << And lol I'm an hydra
1100 and still a drone. Fuck yeah.
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We SHOULD kill them. It's like you want to give free passes for chaos and a GF to just slip in and shoot someone he knows isn't Mafia. That's just ridiculous. There's also no point in leaving the game in the hands of fucking morons. BM dies tomorrow one way or another.
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I also disagree with lynching Bill tomorrow on the grounds that he is most likely townie as pointed out citi.zen and also cannot even act for 72 hours and so his actions can have no bearing, well he can't even act.
Don't disagree with the idea of lynching him for what he has done however, just doing so now is not important.
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not all townie players are on the town's side
bill is a prime example
ok hypothetical situation
let's follow your lead, and kill someone else
the next day we are planning to kill bill
unless you can guarantee that the next person in line to kill him will be ready to f5 the thread like bill did, bill can just kill again someone randomly
OOPS
see the problem?
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JeeJee he cannot act again for quite a long time, so that problem is irrelevant.
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Meh BM is definitely green but he needs to go down that was some stupid shit he pulled. Abenson what are your views, seeing how you're the potential executor?
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