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Canada4732 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:36 789 wrote: The only problem I see with your plan Ace is that KGB and Bureaucrats can't day kill. If they don't do the day kill it is basically telling the reds who our blues are. And if it comes down to it why wouldn't you want our blues to roleclaim? With the exception of Medics who should claim towny any blue claims are legit until counterclaimed. If you have a better idea for determining how we should decide who gets to kill someone I'm all for it listening. None of this random killing shit. I'll kill Malongo myself tomorrow if no one else does. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
killing malongo = having order punishing people for creating order = Мафия | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
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dozko
United Kingdom160 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:36 Malongo wrote: Ace disagree totally with your stupid: malongo is an idiot he is getting shot. * Firstof all this was going to happen anyways. I mean there is exactly 0 reason to shot or not anyone in the game at first day. It was just a matter of time and you know it 100% someone was just taking the shot. * Second I read chezinu as the nazi. By having him play with no other info avalaible there was no way to tell if he was good or bad for the town. * If you want to shot me: do it. However, telling that it is because im an idiot makes you ten times as idiot and more likely to be a cia member pretending. 1.) Thats not a valid excuse. Because someone else was going to get shot, you should shoot them first? Brilliant. 2.) You read chezinu as a Nazi?! No shit? He told on himself, hell he even sent me a PM with not to subtle hints he was a Nazi. Thats not an accomplishment at all. You could have waited till we brought out the full case against Chezinu, and let the town decide how to deal with him. Not killing him on your own. 3.) Yes, you're getting shot tomorrow. Tough shit. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:44 dozko wrote: (assuming he doesnt continue his random executions). that reminds me what's the final verdict for repeated executions from the same person, delay-wise? | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:44 JeeJee wrote: that reminds me what's the final verdict for repeated executions from the same person, delay-wise? he has to wait a day for the first kill, two days for the second kill, etc | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
@dozko: It wasn't a crapshoot. Malongo didn't do anything spectacular. Chezinu told on himself like an idiot. Yes Chezinu is fucking useless but that doesn't give Malongo the right to kill him without consulting the town. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:30 Ace wrote: Yes Malongo is getting shot tomorrow, assuming he isn't killed tonight. Whatever. Here's the plan. We have 26 players. 1. L 2. XeliN 3. dozko 4. Sidesprang 5. ~OpZ~ 6. Fulgrim 7. citi.zen 8. Abenson 9. Johnnyspazz 10. Fishball 11. l10f 12. CynanMachae 13. Nemy 14. d3_crescentia 15. Ace 16. Shockeyy 17. Meeple 18. JeeJee 19. Bill Murray 20. Iaaan 21. 789 22. Vivi57 23. Foolishness 24. Incognito I'm going to randomize the list of names excluding 2 obvious ones. Since Chezinu is dead, and Malongo is an idiot the first person who shows up on the list must prove their innocence by killing Malongo. If you don't shoot you better be very convincing. L and l10f were the last 2 on the list so I replaced them for Chezinu and Malongo. #s are 1-24, using this site: http://www.randomizer.org/form.htm. 3, 22, 24, 7, 17, 2, 18, 19, 12, 21, 1, 11, 6, 14, 9, 5, 23, 16, 13, 20, 10, 4, 15, 8 is the order. SS for proof: http://i47.tinypic.com/29yjnmb.jpg Order In terms of names: dozko Vivi57 Incognito citi.zen Meeple XeliN JeeJee Bill Murray CynanMachae 789 L l10f Fulgrim d3_crescentia Johnnyspazz ~OpZ~ Foolishness Shockeyy Nemy Iaaan Fishball Sidesprang Ace Abenson Read this and give more input! | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
i mean what more justification can they provide and what more do ukranians need to lie? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
If there's a counterclaim cop investigates one of them, comes out and tells us who's who. Obviously if you're a medic you claim town. We get a lot of information by putting pressure on people to role claim. This game isn't about blue roles, and Mafia never is, it's about being smart. If anyone has a better plan please post it. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
so..... ? | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:42 Ace wrote: And if it comes down to it why wouldn't you want our blues to roleclaim? With the exception of Medics who should claim towny any blue claims are legit until counterclaimed. If you have a better idea for determining how we should decide who gets to kill someone I'm all for it listening. None of this random killing shit. I'll kill Malongo myself tomorrow if no one else does. So the blues don't get killed. I suppose it would be true if they do role claim the bureaucrats could protect them though. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:52 JeeJee wrote: medic's cant dk though and townies can so..... ? whoops my bad, was thinking ahead. Thats the next part of the plan I'm going to post soon. @789: Stop thinking that blues are super important. They aren't. If you have a plan that is better please do post it. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
dozko Vivi57 Incognito citi.zen Meeple XeliN JeeJee Bill Murray CynanMachae 789 L l10f Fulgrim d3_crescentia Johnnyspazz ~OpZ~ Foolishness Shockeyy Nemy Iaaan Fishball Sidesprang Ace Abenson Dozko should post soon and be ready to kill Malongo. Townies do not kill anyone before dozko has a chance. Doing so doesn't give us any information about Dozko. That said, the detective should investigate the next person on the list, Vivi57. Once the dozko/malongo situation is solved we move on to Incognito. Incognito gets to shoot the person the town deems most scummy the next day. Cop investigates citizen and so forth. Pro-town players should roleclaim when it's obviously the right time. You CAN prove yourself to be pro-town without roleclaiming. Remember this list is mainly a shooting order, not a death order. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:44 Ace wrote: 1.) Thats not a valid excuse. Because someone else was going to get shot, you should shoot them first? Brilliant. 2.) You read chezinu as a Nazi?! No shit? He told on himself, hell he even sent me a PM with not to subtle hints he was a Nazi. Thats not an accomplishment at all. You could have waited till we brought out the full case against Chezinu, and let the town decide how to deal with him. Not killing him on your own. 3.) Yes, you're getting shot tomorrow. Tough shit. 1) I didnt shot someone else, i shot the nazi. As you see there is a subtle meaning there, my point holds when you realize there was no real excuse to shot or not to shot anyone in the game. Just think a moment there, you really expected that i was just hiting someone at random¿ Yes i was brilliant. I didnt shot someone because he could have shot me, i shot chezinu because he pmd admited he was the nazi. 2) Sorry what¿ you wanted a fully armed town to "decide together" what to do in a random shot. Plain wrong my friend. 3) Already said this: you can shot me, that makes you either A)CIA member trying to pass as a town member if you are a good player, B)The worst player. So i advice you not to kill me yourself if you are townie you should rather try to make someone more stupid to do it. | ||
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dozko
United Kingdom160 Posts
Ace I like your plan; most people dont realize that from the total number of people who cant dk, the medics and detective are likely to be a small proportion. So the expected value of killing off someone who cant dk (even ignoring any roleclaims he might make) is still positive. So there's no need to freak out and reject the plan based on the risk of hitting blues. So basically I like Ace's strategy and according to that list I will do the day kill tomorrow if we decide to go through with the plan. However Im still not convinced we should be killing malongo. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
2.) It's not a random shot, stop making things up. 3.) I'm going to shoot you if Dozko doesn't to keep everyone aware that they can't just kill all willy nilly. Go ahead and conjecture that I'm trying to mind fuck you about my role: I don't give a shit what you think you deserve to die for that stupid move. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:58 Ace wrote: This is the order of the kills I'm proposing based on the RNG: dozko Vivi57 Incognito citi.zen Meeple XeliN JeeJee Bill Murray CynanMachae 789 L l10f Fulgrim d3_crescentia Johnnyspazz ~OpZ~ Foolishness Shockeyy Nemy Iaaan Fishball Sidesprang Ace Abenson Dozko should post soon and be ready to kill Malongo. Townies do not kill anyone before dozko has a chance. Doing so doesn't give us any information about Dozko. That said, the detective should investigate the next person on the list, Vivi57. Once the dozko/malongo situation is solved we move on to Incognito. Incognito gets to shoot the person the town deems most scummy the next day. Cop investigates citizen and so forth. Pro-town players should roleclaim when it's obviously the right time. You CAN prove yourself to be pro-town without roleclaiming. Remember this list is mainly a shooting order, not a death order. Since there is no way to tell about ACEs allignment i counter propose to invert Aces list. I mean at this point Ace could be easily ukranian looking to buy time by putting his members in the last positions. As his plan is still valid i propose to use the same list INVERTED. Abenson Ace Sidesprang Fishball Iaaan Nemy Shockeyy Foolishness ~OpZ~ Johnnyspazz d3_crescentia Fulgrim l10f L 789 CynanMachae Bill Murray JeeJee XeliN Meeple citi.zen Incognito Vivi57 dozko I guess theres no problem about that no Ace¿ | ||
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