TL Mafia XVIII - Page 5

On February 17 2010 08:43 Bill Murray wrote:
without detectives all we have are behavioral analysis and voting patterns, right?
i don't see why a detective would roleclaim, they would get killed so fast, see: the last game i played

On February 17 2010 08:58 Bill Murray wrote:
his signature is "once, not long ago, there was a moon here"
in the day 1 clue analysis it mentions the moon 4 times and moonlight once, so a total of FIVE TIMES!

how is that not clue analysis on him?

and in terms of behavioral analysis, he has defended redtooth and ace BOTH.

On February 17 2010 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:


This is from a PM Ver sent me.
In case I die, I wanted to pass this on.
He might not be lying, but this and his supporting of redtooth made me believe he might be red.

On February 17 2010 09:32 madnessman wrote:
i thought that it was against the rules to post pm's?

On February 17 2010 09:35 Faronel wrote:

This.

BM's behavior was rather erratic. So wtf?

On February 17 2010 09:43 Bill Murray wrote:
let's assume that last person was chezinu, and redtooth wasn't lying.

On February 17 2010 11:24 nemY wrote:
Couldn't the mafia have just hit a vet?

On February 17 2010 11:23 Mystlord wrote:

I don't see me for Killer 1. I don't see any moonlight references - just the contrast between light and dark. And by the way, you're missing half of the equation for the fire - the gasoline.

On February 17 2010 11:33 Mystlord wrote:

I reread the first story, and this jumped out at me:

I think that's a reference that he's terrorizing the town in day time. Could also refer to the fire, but I think the day time is far more likely. Since the first attack took place at night, I think it means that he terrorized the town at night then, and he's terrorizing the town at daytime now.

And the character in my profile is not throwing sharp things. Those crystals are part of her wings.

Sorry for the high frequency of posts. I just love having something objective I can grasp onto. Interpretation might be wrong, but let's get the facts straight first.

On February 17 2010 11:37 SugiuraMidori wrote:


Wow.. so like.. uhh.. that whole "terrorizing by night and day"
Mayor anyone? First he blunders and kills Emp, a townie... now blunders and kills another, Ace?

On February 17 2010 12:33 Ver wrote:
The mafia most definitely did not blindly follow me; if they did Meeple and Mystlord would have died too. It's most likely:

a) Their suspicions coincided with mine on Ace and BC
b) They liked my analysis on Ace and BC and did not like it on Meeple/Mystlord
c) Mystlord/Meeple are mafia and the side(s) they weren't on simply didn't target them

Obviously the purpose of the lists was to get them killed. BC I was simply wrong about, Ace I was not sure but he was adding a lot of chaos to the town and not doing much good. Frankly the outcome of the day basically says nothing about my alignment. On the other hand, if you saw 3 reds from 1 family die and 0-1 from another, then you should start getting very suspicious.

If I was on a mafia team and I couldn't hit a single mafia or useful blue I would be uh...very ashamed haha (it's far easier knowing the identity of 9 players). Have you looked at the hitlists of games when I was mafia?

On February 17 2010 15:08 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Ugh I went back and re-read starting from page 14 until about page 30 (so far) and I've gone through every bs post, stupid argument, unbelievable accusation etc...

People who should be looked at because they were misleading in day 1:

L:
-Strongly advocates clue analysis and explains why its good in this game (pg 16)
-Forcing clues to match Ace as a suspect (pg 17)
-Shows us he sucks at math and doesn't realize that 8 + 8 = 16, not 18 (pg 19)
-BC openly asks why L likes clue analysis, and L claims he has a "sterling" record (pg 21)
-Still pushing for the clues against Ace (pg 23)
-Wants to kill the moonlight rider, not necessarily Ace (pg 24)
-Believes that the moonlight rider might be 789 (pg 24)
-Believes the clues of fire, angels and radiance may point to Empyrean (pg 25)
-Still thinks Ace and Mystlord are the two strongest lynch candidates (pg 25)
-Claims that the clues are so strong and we must utilize them (pg 25)

Chezinu:
-Just plain annoying to read (pg 16 - current)

Bill Murray
-No explanation required(pg 14 - pg 30)

People who should be looked at who are extremely useless from Day 1 (first half or so and in no particular order):

Iaaan:
-useless post implicating BC (pg 15)
-Agrees with meeple about something (pg 15)
-More useless gibberish (pg 16)
-Feels that the mafia families are the best weapons for the town (pg 17)
-Argues with Ace that clues aren't primary, but claims Ace said they shouldn't be looked at in the first place (pg 17)
-Insists that L's clue analysis is definite and points to Ace (pg 18)
-More useless posts (pg 19)
-More useless posts (pg 20)
-Again... (pg 23)

Meeple:
-Everything :facepalm: (pg 14)
-Twice again (pg 16)
-Arguing with Ace asking for suspects and believes clues should be looked at heavily (pg 17)
-Meeple then tries to give us a variable lesson after Abenson (pg 17)
-More useless posts between him and Absenson (pg 18)
-More useless posts about clues (pg 18)
-More useless posts towards Chezinu, as well as informing us that we should hung mafia, no shit (pg 19)


Sidespring:
-Weak clue analysis against Ver (pg 15)
-Agrees not to lynch immediately based upon clues, but gives no effort in aiding discussion of any sort (pg 16)

Abenson:
-Agrees with Ace, only because everyone "should" agree with Ace. (pg 16)
-Let us know Chezinu PM'ed him on the 10th, thanks Abenson (pg 16)
-Throwing out more useless information about a past mafia game, and trying to teach us about variables (pg 17)
-Can't think of anything helpful to say, so he lets us all know (pg 21)


Fulgrim:
-Comes in and talks about how clues are important blah blah (pg 18)
-Votes for Ver because he has the best posts so far, congrats Ver! (pg 18)
-Won't vote for Ace because he's not accusing anybody (pg 18)


People who should be looked at with a careful eye, not too suspicious, just not really helping...

Cyanmachine:
-Claims he read everything, but never saw the list of people who were running for mayor, or their posts? (pg 21)
-Still unsure as to who's running for mayor, proving he didn't read shit (pg 22)

Faronel:
-Provides no contribution and rehashes everything that has been said in the past 8 pages (pg 22)
-Made a newb mistake and edited a post, probably just a newb mistake (pg 22)

Fishball:
-Always up for seeing BC dead, no reason (pg 15)

[NyC]Hobbes:
-Rambling about how clues help the town and that it worked in a previous game (pg 20)
-Rambles about how we should use clue analysis in the late game (pg 21)
-Supports citi.zen for mayor because of his performance last game (pg 23)
-Does not support Ace, ver, or L because of shaky analysis and finger pointing (pg 23)
-Wants to kill someone based upon clues and clues alone, that person being Ace (pg 24)
-Believes that going back after Ace is killed will give us insight about the players who accused him (pg 24)
-Notes that killing someone like Chezinu is useless for the town, if our only reason is because they are annoying (pg 24)

MasterDana:
-Ran for mayor on a shitty platform (pg 14)
-Makes an even shittier post right after (pg 14)


I'm not suggesting anybody here is mafia, but they have ties to every player who was killed and have been contributing constantly to the derailment of this game within a 16 page period (except for the top three).

Meanwhile, the second Mafioso made his way all the way across town to a small apartment on the edge of the city wall. Although the road to the residence was filled with many twists and turns, the Mafioso was able to reach the apartment without too much loss of time. The Mafioso knocked on the door, waiting for a response. Nervous, Zato-1 pulled out his shotgun, ready to shoot the intruder if he proved to be a menace. But Zato-1 could not have been more prepared for what happened next. As he opened the door, he was immediately knocked down and impaled by an array of sharp objects. The intruder was nowhere to be seen, although neighbors who have walked by the now open door have noticed a hole in the wall directly behind where Zato-1 had been killed.

On February 19 2010 17:49 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Okay... well.. found a second VERY nasty virus... be a bit longer than expected haha.