On February 14 2010 07:55 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 07:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
As the game as begun, it is time to get it started.
I, BloodyC0bbler, am running for the position of mayor.
I believe the town can easily win this if we work together, as a concise unit, and do so before the mafia can create their own plans. Action must happen now. My campaign is on a platform of strength. I believe I have the strength to help pull this town together. I can analyze clues, behaviour, and can help guide blues to where they should act. The more we work together, the less we have to lose. The first lynch at the moment, as there is nothing to really go on, I believe is moot unless someone gives themself away obviously. Therefore I would lynch the most inactive player, or in the case of someone giving themself away, that person. Any other choice should be pardon'd instantly.
Vote for unity, Vote for strength, Vote for bloodyc0bbler
I am running too!!! I always wanted to run for a position but either couldn't from inexperience or there wasn't ever one!
VOTE FOR ME!!!!!!
On February 14 2010 08:10 Chezinu wrote:
Ok, he is my thoughts from skimming the day post. citi.zen is innocent. Why would incog include the word citizen in the day post if citi.zen was mafia. So if I was citi.zen, I would run for mayor in order to gain protection.
On February 14 2010 08:27 Chezinu wrote:
Moon shadow moon shadow...two horsemen...blind and drunk...
Why Ace WHY!!!!!
On February 14 2010 08:29 Chezinu wrote:
"If darkness is bad, why does it hide you? If light is good, why does it blind you?"
blinding people by moonlight...
hiding in the darkness of shadows...
batman like robot casting shadows...
WHY!!!!!!!!
On February 14 2010 08:33 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 08:30 L wrote:
1) I've been trying to change my picture, but I need to find out my password.
2) I'll be running for mayor.
3) Ver's retarded and looking at clues is plenty helpful, especially since it lets you see who's pushing against who. Regardless, having people talking is better than having people not talking. Its far easier to let people be silent in a 50 man game than have them actively feign town interests.
Proof? Pretty much every large game we've had.
In the current game, a full 40% of people playing are mafia; while clues shouldn't be the only thing you have on someone, they should definitely play a part.
Then again this is probably just my interpretation, given that I'm one of the only people who is responsible for a clue kill on day 1 or 2.
I'm going to die soon.. So, I'll talk while I'm here... I feel as if I have a huge disadvantage right now...
On February 14 2010 08:49 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 08:46 Iaaan wrote:I think that clues should be talked about, they get people talking, and at the moment there isnt really anything else to go on. I agree with Ver that clues get a little more useful on, and I also agree with L that clues shouldn't be the only thing that we lynch people based off of, but I think it would wouldn't be good just to completely ignore them for the first few days.
That said, looking briefly at the potential clues, it looked to me that one person from one family is associated with riding horses, and one of the other family is associated with light/fire.
Just going quickly over everyones names/profile pic/quote, I saw these people connected to one of those potential clues:
789+ Show Spoiler + Ace+ Show Spoiler +If darkness is bad, why does it hide you? If light is good, why does it blind you? - ItEndsInTears
Is his quote, Chezinu pointed this out also
Is his picture, and ""Lolita, light of my life,
fire of my loins. My sin, my soul." ~Vladimir Nabokov" is in his public profile, which is really long, but that little bit of text is bolded and right at the start, so it stand out.
Profile picutre, and his quote is: Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
you forgot to mention your quote:
"Black is the absence of light, but white is the absence of memory; the color of nothing."
just for fairness
On February 14 2010 08:51 Chezinu wrote:You should vote for citi.zen to put your words into action.
also: how many people have moons in their profile? o have a profile about darkness and shadows and light.... a lot....
On February 14 2010 09:04 Chezinu wrote:"It makes me think of the Chaos Knight from DotA"
Ace plays Dota... NOOOO!!!
......................................................
Ace I have a question,
Can your batman robot go super saiyan and shoot blue beams of light to kill things?
+ Show Spoiler +Kennigit emerged from behind the wine barrel, thinking that an angel had saved the town. Unfortunately, Kennigit did not find favor from the now radiant creature, and exploded into a shower of blue light
also, Ace why didn't you pick a better profile! It saddens me to see so many connections to your profile...
On February 14 2010 09:31 Chezinu wrote:
Reason to vote me for mayor:
If I was mafia: I will try to lynch the other competing mafia team and not focus on the town until we take care of our biggest threat.
If I am town: I will end my insane talk and talk normally for the first time for I wouldn't have to dodge any reads.
If I am either of above: I don't want to die... Tons of people already want me dead from previous games. Please don't spite...
On February 14 2010 11:10 Chezinu wrote:1) Ok, I will used my skills to pick out mafia and with the safety of mayor position I can talk normally and tell you exactly what I am thinking. No one in this game has experienced me talking normal to them. The only person I ever talked somewhat normal too was probably RoL, but he isn’t here.
2) Most games I played in the past, my team won. I lost only two times: one was a speed game (a good friend betrayed me by talking to someone whose name starts with a P) and the other was when my fellow mafia member decided to lynch me whose name also starts with a P… and of course the smurf game doesn't count - I don't think that game even had an ending.
3) My lynch target… not yet decided and debating, if I do decide on someone, if I should say it
publicly.. Will decide to announce it publicly or not depending on people's thoughts.
clue analysis
Two horsemen:Clacked horseman – watched and laughed
Mirror horseman - tried to kill dreamflower with a spear.
Arson: Used oil and a torch to kill Qatol
Killer from above: Ripped incog’s head off and laughed.
Blue fire killer: The blue fire grew brighter and brigher on the victim then boom!!! Blue light went everywhere.
On February 14 2010 11:28 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 11:25 meeple wrote:On February 14 2010 11:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Based on Ver posting insanely helpful tips to people, I shall vote for him to be mayor. If he wants me dead, that's his choice. However wrong he may be.
Unless I missed something... is Ver running for office?
They don't have to run in order for you to vote for them right? So, it is settled! Either vote for Ver, Chezinu, or citi.zen!
On February 14 2010 12:11 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 12:09 Abenson wrote:
so that doesn't mean chezinu was mafia trying to get info out of us? D:
good guys get information too. Look at a previous game I played. I was DT and I got two mafia with my first two role checks.. but people were pretty inactive and weren't trying as hard...but still says something right?
On February 14 2010 12:17 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 12:13 L wrote:On February 14 2010 12:11 Ace wrote:
No, come up with new plans. This entire discussion around whether to use Clues on Day 1 is so revealing already. Like I said it doesn't matter how many Mafia are in the game, using Clues to catch people isn't going to change the fact that they are subjective call outs. See the point now?
So basically you're innocent in the face of the only real piece of evidence we have on our lap?
Ok.
L, if Ace decides he doesn't like me remember, I'm on your side! You should tell everyone to vote for me because I was the first one to mention the obvious clues against Ace!
On February 14 2010 12:28 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 12:24 meeple wrote:On February 14 2010 12:20 Chezinu wrote:On February 14 2010 12:18 L wrote:
Well the fact that you didn't bother disputing the credibility of the clues when you're 100% certain that they don't point to you is interesting.
If the clue set regarding the moonlight horseman doesn't apply to you, then who does it point to? Instead of analyse what appear to be a substantive set of clues, you've ignored them and provided the town with no content.
There was a picture in someone's profile with a moon, a woman, and fire. I was posted earlier. Plus shadows and darkness was in Day 1 post of last game.
The picture you're thinking about is in Mystlord's profile...
So it looks like Mystlord could have jumped of the roof and rip incog's head off...or the moon thing...or the arson...
Or Ace could have done the same but instead of the arson replace it with blinding...
I'm too selfish right now to pick sides between L and Ace.. I wait to see who wins! hehe
On February 14 2010 12:55 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 12:49 meeple wrote:On February 14 2010 12:47 Chezinu wrote:On February 14 2010 12:44 Ace wrote:On February 14 2010 12:40 Fulgrim wrote:On February 14 2010 11:45 Ace wrote:
Ok, the KingPin has arrived. Time to stop this nonsense and get this game started.
First of all, I'm going to be brutally honest here. Some of you playing are newbies. That isn't to say you're bad, but more so that you haven't had the experience of playing a true cut throat game of Mafia. The last 2 games were honestly so bland - aka too much talking about clues, that it wasn't really that much high level strategy going on.
Like Ver said, talking too much about clues early is USELESS. Don't try to convince anyone that someone is Mafia based on clues for the first few days. It's nice to mention it, but do not make it a central point of focus. MTF and Camlito are the best 2 clue analyzers along with Plexa that we ever had. That was in Mafia 2 and it took a ton of planning + input from various people to even come to some of those conclusions. Chances are you won't be able to do much with clues this game unless you've got some additional proof. What I mean by this is catch someone on behavior analysis + clues + shoddy voting or motives. Saying "this clue points to Ace" is just stupid.
Knowing this, I'm not surprised LL and Zato -1 are already accusing me. Look people, especially for you new players - I'm one of the biggest targets in any Mafia game. Every time. I'm super valuable. I catch people in lies all the time and I always save townies from the obvious bandwagon deaths. L and Zato may not have blatantly accused me but they just planted a seed of suspicion on me of all people, based on some wild clues. Be very wary of light weight accusations like this.
I'm running for Mayor of course. But in the event I don't win, my vote is possibly going to Ver. The only reason I might not vote for him is because he has elected to kill BC which is just as bad as L/Zato wanting me dead. Our most valuable players should be saved unless it's blatantly obvious they are Mafia. There are 3 teams this game, don't even bother trying to murder all of our good players so soon.
Ace you really need to give people more incentive if you expect them to vote for you. You should try and post something with more substance, then just "I'M ACE VOTE FOR ME". Some healthy mafia accusations never hurt anyone, I agree that clues aren't the most helpful early game as you can easily screw up, but its not any worse then just lynching a random player.
my incentive is there. I'm already the shining beacon of innocence I always am. If I tried to do anything radically different from normal I'd be labeled as Mafia and gg'd.
Ace, if you should have acting radical like me every game so that you can do whatever you want...but then it makes getting a mayor role really hard.. If only people could see pass my image and vote for me..I f only people could see pass the image in my profile and see it's true meaning...
Please stop begging for votes... try to put forth some constructive ideas
OK, I shall state the obvious and call it constructive ideas:
1. clues are good to start conversation on day 1 and provide a way to accuse people without really accusing then so that you can perform behavior analysis
2. If you don't want me to read your role, don't reply to my pm's
3. I'm the safest person to elect as mayor. Why? No one trusts me. Think about it.
4. There is no such thing as a "waste post" That is just an excuse to get people to talk, distract, or focus attention.
5. I am insane and don't play like normal player - have fun reading me
6. You don't want to kill me
7. I will not listen to "town" aka mafia when I am mayor
8. I will kill both mafia teams equally?
9. How will I do this -- I won't, It's called a bluff.
10. I have no idea what is considered a "constructive idea" in this game...
On February 14 2010 13:14 Chezinu wrote:
I think it will be nearly impossible for town to get a mayor role unless the mafia allow it. So please mafia, can you let me get elected?
On February 14 2010 13:22 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 13:20 l10f wrote:
Hmm, it looks like I won't be getting the mayor spot so easily! How about this, if I am elected mayor, instead of going on my vengeful rampage and lynching the people responsible for my quick death last game, I will lynch CHEZINU. You want to vote me now, don't you?
You see, this is how you run for mayor and a sure way to get yourself killed later!
On February 14 2010 15:33 Chezinu wrote:OK, It is time....
This is why you should vote for me:
Because I am the
Take that mafias!
GG GS
On February 14 2010 15:41 Chezinu wrote:
Seems like once again tip 5 is my struggle...
On February 14 2010 16:24 Chezinu wrote:ok so is this what we have so far?
clue analysis
Two horsemen:Clacked horseman – watched and laughed
Mirror horseman - tried to kill dreamflower with a spear.
Arson: Used oil and a torch to kill Dreamflower
Killer from above: Ripped incog’s head off and laughed.
Blue fire killer: The blue fire grew brighter and brigher on the victim then boom!!! Blue light went everywhere.
other stuff:
Matches to most clues: Ace and Mystlord.
who everyone is crazy about: Ace
Who everyone thinks is annoying: Chezinu
Epic battle as usual: L vs Ace
others accused: BC and 789
Who chezinu thought was innocent because their name was in day post: cit.zen
possible teammates? (very loose): Ver, L, and Mystlord
People claiming to me that they know the answer to my stereograms: 0
On February 14 2010 19:16 Chezinu wrote:
I have a plan now!
I have a plan of what I could do as mayor! But as most plans, I can't not tell... Just know I have a plan now! With that I'm going to sleep! Unless, somone posts soon after or I can't sleep!
On February 14 2010 19:44 Chezinu wrote:
!!!!!! My plan just got a whole lot better!!!!!!
I just realized I don't really need to be mayor for it to work. It will work if I'm either mayor or pardoner!!!
PLEASE TRUST ME!!! VOTE FOR ME!!!
On February 14 2010 17:30 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 17:28 Bill Murray wrote:
after reading your alls posts, it is actually sort of easy to put people into groups of "blind faith and teamwork" which would be associated with mafia.
the only problem here is there seem to be multiple groups
L
Chezinu
redtooth
laaan
zato-1
bloodycobbler
ver
L
Mystlord
fulgrim
in my opinion are mafia, possibly not all in the same mafia, but that's my guess
i also think that bloodycobbler is the other mafia godfather
"other"... are you implying that you are mafia?
On February 15 2010 07:17 Chezinu wrote:oops meant to post this:
You think I'm a joke...
So you don't want the DT to post something like this?
+ Show Spoiler +I am the DT
If you haven’t figured it out by now I am the DT
So medics protect me. Mafia you have a decision now… You can try and kill the opposing mafia team or you can try and waste hits on me. Oh and with medics it will take more than 1 hit from each time. Oh and another problem what if I’m not the DT? Who would believe Chezinu anyways? Oh and what Zato-1 said! Beat that!
+ Show Spoiler +I'm so dead out of spite...but if they try to kill me, they only hurt themselves...
So here is your hit list:
Clue based:
Empyrean
789
Mystlord
Ace+ Show Spoiler + clue analysis
Two horsemen:Clacked horseman – watched and laughed
Mirror horseman - tried to kill dreamflower with a spear.
Arson: Used oil and a torch to kill Dreamflower
Killer from above: Ripped incog’s head off and laughed.
Blue fire killer: The blue fire grew brighter and brigher on the victim then boom!!! Blue light went everywhere.
I'm starting to see a trend. I vote someone. No one else votes for that peerson. I switch my vote. Immediately after that person runs. I like you redtooth. I think finally for once we are on the same team. I'm not liking Ver this game... His first post was good, but the last one... I don't get it... Ver is making me want to side with L of all people and Ace already gave up - it seems he knows that he is dead already -- so by me putting his name in red isn't that bad right? right Ace?
On February 15 2010 08:03 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 07:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He said he should be blue because he had a blue star. If anything that implies that he isn't blue but wants to be and that is why he is running.
But...but.. with that logic.. that means...I'm not the DT...I have to be the DT.. I wants it... no...no..no!!!! lies1!!!
I noticed the same thing you did about malongo's post that is why i sent this pm:
From: l10f [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: did you know!
Date: 2/14/10 13:25
You don't understand, it's a tatoo. Therefore I'm at least part blue.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
a blue star doesn't make you blue.
On February 15 2010 13:07 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 13:03 tree.hugger wrote:
I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game.
And activity of course.
I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego.
I totally suck at this game... Everyone is so much better than me... I had a plan and it was total fail... I'm a noob... I have fresh blood... I'm annoying... I can't get people to vote for me.. not even a pity vote... tip 5 is my weakness...
+ Show Spoiler +Vote for me! because I don't have a massive ego! Or do it?
On February 15 2010 13:07 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 13:03 tree.hugger wrote:
I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game.
And activity of course.
I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego.
I totally suck at this game... Everyone is so much better than me... I had a plan and it was total fail... I'm a noob... I have fresh blood... I'm annoying... I can't get people to vote for me.. not even a pity vote... tip 5 is my weakness...
+ Show Spoiler +Vote for me! because I don't have a massive ego! Or do it?
On February 15 2010 13:50 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 13:49 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:On February 15 2010 13:46 meeple wrote:
I'm curious as to why so many people are abstaining... is it just because you can't decide?
I personally am abstaining because I still want to vote for citizen, but since he's sort of disappeared for a while, don't want to make a final decision on that score quite yet. It's not a permanent abstain, but sort of a placeholder, since I don't want other people's voting patterns to be influenced by the number of votes already on a particular candidate when I'm not sure of my support for that candidate.
I will humbly accept a vote, let me be your placeholder!
On February 15 2010 14:02 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 13:57 SugiuraMidori wrote:
I told you why I'm abstaining... they're all hooligans!!
And it gets OLD to see vet players always take mayor pardoner.. what's the freaking point, let some new players learn how to play the game.
Also.. edited the last post to show it in count order, and placed old post in spoiler so it's preserved.
Removed the mods from the counts as well...
If you really want to give new people a chance, you would have voted for me..
On February 15 2010 14:47 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 14:43 redtooth wrote:
AND IF YOU THINK I AM TOWN ALIGNED YOU SHOULD OBVIOUSLY VOTE ME MAYOR. seriously you are electing citizen literally solely on the fact that "okay he was good in last game". he has said nothing this game. he has done nothing to show his town-alignment. why would you risk that? GUYS USE YOUR HEADS!
L is pretty safe too. as a matter of fact i'm heading to the voting thread right now to vote L.
The word citizens is used in the day post!
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