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Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 01 2010 20:09 GMT

#2680

On March 02 2010 03:48 Scamp wrote:
Wow, those PMs make you look guilty of being mafia in my opinion.

If a gazillion people have given themselves away, why are you only focusing on Opz?

And aren't you even the least bit offended that of the people left Vivi only thinks that Malongo is worthy of being a GF?

HEY EVERYBODY! IF FOOLISHNESS SENT YOU A PM TELLING YOU TO TAKE YOUR VOTE OFF OF L, PLEASE POST IT NOW.

Because I think Opz looks the most guilty. I will happily make another post in a very similar fashion about sidesprang, abenson, shockeyy, xelin, you. Truth is, I was waiting for Chezinu's opinion on who we should be lynching, but he won't tell me anything because he's overly paranoid.

Are you still upset that I voted for you yesterday? I was under the assumption that Chez had things under control and knew what he was doing. Well guess what, he doesn't. That's why I made this post about Opz, because Chez does not have things under control and is also not posting much of an opinion about who to lynch (probably because he has his hands full behind the scenes).

Right now, Vivi is the only person besides me (and maybe Chez) who is doing anything beneficial to the town (and I guess you are too with your questioning of me). Why? Because he's actively posting his opinion about the remaining townspeople, and besides him I'm the only one doing so. We need the town to be actively posting their thoughts right now since it will be easy to weed out the mafia.

The thing is, it doesn't matter who the GF is at this point. Right now, everyone is overly paranoid about who or what the GF is doing. Well I've got good news, ~~I saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico~~ we don't need to kill the GF to win. Right now we need to kill two sumiyoshi mafia, and there are still 6 out there (5 excluding the GF). It's not a big deal about finding the GF.

And I'm not criticizing you about questioning me. In fact it's very good that you're questioning me and not just blindly agreeing with what I say, because we need people to talk and we need discussion. I was hardly saying anything yesterday because Chez implied he had things under control. I switched my vote off of you to Amber when he did as well (Yes I know I didn't switch it again to Cynan when he did).

And just to let you know, you are saying my activity/inactivity and posting (and somewhat my voting) is also mafia like. Well, yours is too. That's originally why people were suspicious of you outside any clue analysis. That's why I originally voted for you. But you were active yesterday and posting with reason, and it became clear you were not mafia, and if you are mafia, you sure fooled me well.

Right now, Chez won't tell me anything. I'm not going to sit by and hope he gets things under control. The town can still win this.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 01 2010 20:11 GMT

#2681

On March 01 2010 21:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:

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On February 21 2010 03:20 Caller wrote:

On February 21 2010 01:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:

The rain poured down steadily as darkness fell over the town. Inside an old shack in a deserted part of the town, 789 was content relaxing in the quiet of his bedroom. He could hear the light rain on the top of the roof, but was jolted out of his trance when he heard some panting, a few grunts, and then a loud crash upstairs. 789’s mind raced for a moment, but he was interrupted as the whole second floor of the shack came crashing down from the weight of the water and sewage above, ending his life.

Change of rain?
Old shack, but it's two story and the whole floor comes down?
Panting, grunting, loud crash. This part made me think of Xelin, but not the rest.
Mafia can bring down a whole floor using water and sewage? It happens rather quickly.

For obvious Drainage and Sewage. Given how obvious clues have seemed.
The cat obviously knocked over something.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Scamp

SugiuraMidori smiled, thinking about the murders that would happen tonight. But it was cold tonight, and she decided to watch the murders from her apartment instead of watching from the tower in the middle of the town. As she turned around, she noticed the light in the background floating slowly to her location. At first she thought the light to be an omen of success, but she was suddenly shocked as the charming light sped up and pierced her skin. She felt a burning sensation, followed by more attacks from the light. A few moments later, SugiuraMidori died as her heart was overloaded from shock.

It was raining earlier...
Background light coming at her. Slowly. Floating, Radiant.
The light was percieved as an Omen. It was charming. Also able to pierce skin. Laser? Fine pointed. Burned. The light is powerful.
Given the rest of the blatanly obvious clues...Hi Shockey? (I keep championing his death, but I'd be wary of this.)

nemY was sitting on his second story balcony, when he saw a dark shape flying in his direction. At first, he thought it was probably a hawk hunting at night, but as the figure converged on his location, nemY noticed that the creature was much larger than he had anticipated. Panicked, he ran inside his house and closed his eyes. But nemY was not safe, and a large boulder crashed through the roof and landed a few feet away from him. He saw the figure screech as it flew overhead, blocking out the moonlight from entering the large hole now in nemY's roof. nemY breathed a sigh of relief, yet was shocked at the damage done to his house. He frantically tried to clean up the mess, fearful that the rest of the roof would cave in. But the attacker returned, dropping another rock through the roof. nemY’s life ended as he flew like a rag doll from the impact of the boulder into the splintered end of a roof beam on the other side of his house.

The hawklike creature was large, dark, and scary. Nemy closed his eyes.
Mafia can drop boulders. Screeches. Nemy thought he was safe, this probably isn't important, I just like the false sense of security. =P
Flew accross the house with the impact, so it was very hard. I mean, I don't think a boulder would make you bounce, but he hit the roof beam.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ohN
For his quote. Mentions the sky, hiding, dropping.

At a fork in the road, one of the men took a left turn which meandered down near the river. The old shack at the end of the road looked deserted, but the man was not disturbed. He snuck closely through the shadows, making sure to blend in with the dark river behind him. The shack seemed abandoned, but the man heard some quiet singing emanating from the shack. As he approached the shack, he noticed an emaciated and pale man inside. The Mafioso didn’t feel especially playful tonight, and decided to simply get the job done. He ripped down the thin wall of the shack closest to the river, and lunged at his victim. Shikyo did not move a muscle as a dull fork flew toward his face and plunged into his left temple. However, the killer was shocked to see two bombs explode in the field nearby, and warily began to sneak away from the crime scene as the debris crunched below his feet. When he was but fifty yards away, he heard a large tree fall overhead, smashing the Shikyo’s shack to pieces and turning Shikyo to pulp.

Leisurely. Comfortable.
Sneaky, Hides to blend in with the river.
He heard singing? (maybe this one is oHn? Who's the pic in Redtooth's profile? Madnessmen to.)
ohn's music is trance. Pale man.
Too the point.
Wtf, ripping walls open again? Near the river side.
Where'd the fork come from? Fork, It's dull?
He's heavy. Crunching debris.
How'd the tree fall? Was it planned?

I dunno....Gotta be at work in 18 minutes. I'll come back to do the rest later. I get off in 8 hours though, 12 - 8.

~Opz always has good clue analysis. This is something that people should really, really pay attention too -_-

Even your timing was wrong when you quoted me. Caller said I had good clue analysis sarcastically in the SAME POST HE QUOTED ME WHERE I DID CLUE ANALYSIS.

Logical consistency there. Amirite?

Caller stated you had good clue analysis twice in this game. One occurred before you had even done any, and the other (the one you quoted) appeared after.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 01 2010 20:15 GMT

#2683

On March 01 2010 21:05 ~OpZ~ wrote:
That Bull shit...I posted some analysis before Caller said listen to me. I even posted afterward saying "Thanks for the sarcasm Caller" which you clearly ignored also. Want me to find those posts, since you conveniently left them out?

Caller's post was clearly taken out of context, due to SARCASM. He wanted my post to be ignored, so I clearly still believe Xelin to be mafia. He qualifies for EVERYTHING you've said of me, EXCEPT he has yet to make any clue analysis to help further the us.

I haven't even came in when people were talking about me. I work on weekends, almost all of my posts have EXCLUSIVELY been on week days and Sunday. I didn't state this, but it seems more scummy. Dr. H was clearly mafia, reread his posts. They all seemed EXTRAORDINARILY suspicious. I didn't champion his death, but I certainly figured he was mafia from the beginning.

I don't think I've been connected to a single clue, and I challenge anyone to do that. Find a decent thematic clue that points to me. And I still argue right now, that Xelin is mafia, and he is Abomination.

Iaaan and the tuning fork, that was also my analysis, I just PM'd it to Spazz because I figured if Iaaan was on his team he wouldn't post it, and that would tell everyone. (Not to mention he would probably be dead anyway):
If Iaaan was mafia:
A) Iaaan was Gambino (Spazz not posting)
B) Iaaan was Sumi (spazz posting)

Apparently it was good enough to convince Johnny, Cynan, and the other Gambino to kill Iaaan last night. Sorry it was failure, but who else uses dull forks? L even believed Iaaan to possibly of been GF based on it, and the fact that nearly every blue has died this game.

I think Foolishness and Vivi are mafia now, trying to bus me. Don't fall for this fellow townies.

Chezinu has inspected both Vivi and myself, and has gotten both townies. You really think we're both mafia working together? Vivi hasn't even voted for you. Unless you think Chezinu is lying about being a DT (that would probably make him mafia as well right?)

Yeah, it really seems very probable that Chez, vivi, and myself are all mafia.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 01 2010 21:42 GMT

#2692

On March 02 2010 05:25 Chezinu wrote:

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On March 02 2010 05:15 Foolishness wrote:

lol, you must be lying.. The Gambinos would never kill us.. That would only help them kill town even further. Remember, they are on our team now. We are only fighting one mafia now. So shouldn't we be open now?

The Gambinos are now the new leaders of the Circle. They are the ones who need to organize the town and medics protect them! We have slim chances of killing two S mafia today. But if we at least get one, then our two medics can double protect one of the Gambinos and then the S mafia have to try and find our medics next lynch instead of killing Gambinos and they will have to guess which gambino we are protecting.

Minimum requirement of town right now: Kill at least one S mafia.

If you are a medic and protected someone, then you protected an S mafia target (that means that they are unlikely S mafia so I would trust who you protected).

That's kinda my point here. There's no reason that Vivi, Malongo, or myself should be lynched no matter how suspicious because they have turned up clean to rolecheck. Taking potshots at us hoping one of us is the GF is diminishing our chances of hitting two sumiyoshi today. Even if one of us is the GF (which I highly doubt) we still have 5 mafia to choose from the remaining 9? players (I think I counted correctly although I'll double check). Much better odds than crap shooting at the confirmed innocents.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 01 2010 21:45 GMT

#2693

On March 02 2010 05:52 Versatile wrote:
i take back what i said about madnessman not posting, saw a post of his a few pages back. still reads like mafia though.

Yeah but that's only one small post. Days ago, he was actually posting somewhat frequently. Now he's just mia. Not helping the town there either.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 01 2010 22:44 GMT

#2699

On March 02 2010 07:36 johnnyspazz wrote:
If you're the medic that saved me, PM me!

Seriously, if the medic hasn't contacted you yet, get on that shit asap.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 02 2010 02:52 GMT

#2711

On March 02 2010 10:38 Versatile wrote:
yes, let's lynch me and waste an actual sumi lynch, scamp. that's smart.

the very fact that i've had no support from any player in any way throughout this entire game should tell you something; i have no allies.

in the event that sumiyoshi win, they have very little to be proud of seeing as how there's been a ridiculous amount of idiocy on both town and gambino side.

It seems to me very little of the players alive right now have had support throughout this game. Outside of the obvious Chez, Opz stands out as one of these players (had constant support from a sumiyoshi Caller), which I mentioned in my analysis.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 02 2010 15:57 GMT

#2723

On March 02 2010 22:27 XeliN wrote:
Since when did you get the right to dictate who will and won't die?

I'm not entirely sure in the double lynch mostly because it does not seem many people have a clear reasoned idea as to who should be voted for and in situations like that it just makes it easier for the mafia to manipulate the voting.

although you are probably right in the time frame, the sumiyoshi are looking like they have won this unless something drastic happens and fast.

Yes, and that drastic thing is killing sumiyoshi in our double lynches. If we can take out two we actually have a chance of winning.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 02 2010 16:11 GMT

#2724

On March 02 2010 08:52 Incognito wrote:
Vote count:

Abenson: (4)
Chezinu
~~Vivi57~~
~~Versatile~~
dozko
johnnyspazz
~Opz~

Sidesprang: (5)
Chezinu
Vivi57
johnnyspazz
Abenson
Scamp

XeliN: (2)
Vivi57
dozko

Malongo: (0)
~~Vivi57~~
~~Versatile~~

ohN: 2)
~OpZ~
Scamp

ShoCkeyy: (2)
~OpZ~
Foolishness

~OpZ~: (2)
Foolishness
~~Versatile~~
Abenson

Foolishness: (1)
Versatile
~Opz~

johnnyspazz: (1)
Xelin

Chezinu: (1)
Xelin

Abstain: (2)
~~johnnyspazz x2 (by default)~~
Malongo x2 (by default; Chile Earthquake)

Double Lynch: (5/18)
~OpZ~
Vivi57
johnnyspazz
Foolishness
Scamp

Non-Voters:
Everyone else

Voting ends in approximately 24 hours. If there are any mistakes here please let me know.

I updated the voting. Kinda worried with the almost bandwagon on sidesprang. Remember to vote for double lynch guys!

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 02 2010 18:18 GMT

#2734

On March 03 2010 02:26 XeliN wrote:
As for foolishness I am somewhat confused on him, did he not PM people to persuade them not to vote for L. L turned out to be Gambino which is evidence against the idea of Foolish being sumiyoshi although it is still possible.
Although given how Chezinu seems to me likely to be mafia I have to assume he would be sumiyoshi if this were the case as otherwise there would simply be more votes to lynch him (votes from sumiyoshi members) This seems to me to show that Chezinu is either Sumiyoshi or the detective, and even if he were the detective I would expect sumiyoshi members to try to kill him. Unless he is a townie detective working with the sumiyoshi which in itself would be enough to lynch him.

Am I wrong in any of this thinking, please give thoughts on the matter, townies only, no sumiyoshi posting allowed for at least the next 10 posts xD

I did PM people to persuade them not to kill L. Abenson just vouched for me. If you think I didn't because you didn't get a PM, it's because you hadn't voted for L at the time. I didn't mass send out the PM like L did earlier in the game when he killed redtooth, that's not my style. I only PM people who I think can be convinced.

How can you guys doubt that Chezinu is the DT? We still going on about this? The inactivity in the town right now and lack of voting shows we are probably not voting for the right people. If you look back at my first mafia game (pyrry was host) the town was in the exact same predicament as right now (we needed to lynch two mafia otherwise it was game over). I called out two people as mafia (one was l10f as I recall) and nobody wanted to believe me about it. The town was further inactive besides a few people and the votes were piled on to two people without any changes. Needless to say a townie got lynched and the mafia won soon after. You guys are only repeating history here.

And yes while it is possible for me to be a GF, I'm the only one here pointing out the facts and trying to save this town (Chez is working behind the scenes I'm sure). Versatile's posting above is just him saying "I know who's mafia I'm right and you're wrong". No facts or anything. I'm probably going to lol when one of abenson or sidesprang turns up innocent (if they were both mafia, don't you think at least one of them would be trying to defend themselves in the thread?)

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 02 2010 18:21 GMT

#2735

On March 03 2010 03:10 Versatile wrote:
last post for a little bit, but based on analysis, only one of abenson and sidesprang are mafia. i suspect sidesprang is innocent and getting bandwagoned. so, we need to switch him out for a confirmed mafia. NOTE: i would prefer both of them being swapped out for foolishness and johnny, but i don't think that's feasible at this point. therefore, i suggest foolishness for sidesprang, since somehow some of you have decided johnnyspazz is worth saving.

Well I'm glad someone else noticed this. But honestly the rest of your post is ridiculous. And what lie to Scamp catch me in? I explained everything to him. You're taking pot shots at confirmed innocents because you really feel I'm the GF. Even if Chez has inspected the GF already, there's still 5 mafia out there to kill. There's no need to figure out who the GF is at this point. We don't even have to kill him to win, all we got to do is find the other 5 mafia.