TL Mafia XVIII - Page 2

On February 24 2010 12:19 Malongo wrote:
So i came up to this:
It is for the best interest of the town to lynch tree.hugger today. First of he was to be lynched last night but "somehow" the voting was turned into redtooth impalation. So given that Quickstricker claimed that he wont vote today to force a modkill it is fair to assume that:

- Town has 3 kills total (counting 1 today 2 tomorrow)
- If we kill quickstricker we lose the chance to take his claim to our advantage
- If we lynch tree.hugger and quickstricker votes we can lynch him tomorrow.
- We can take a lot of information about tree.huggers allignment. (namely L, decafchicken, amber and laaan, players that look mafia to me).

Some things:
-Why hasnt gambino hit some gambino fake claimers¿ Guys claiming to be gambino CANT be Yumiyumi because gambino family would have killed them already.
-Where are our clue analizers¿

So please lets change our kill tonight. We can get Quickstricker tomorrow if he votes, but we win an extra kill (and it would be great if it is a miller kill) by killing someone else.

Im changing to tree.hugger and i expect a lot of resistance from the Yumiyumi family

On February 24 2010 14:35 johnnyspazz wrote:

wait are you saying he lied to you in a PM about ver being a DT? Doesn't this make shockeyy totally untrustworthy?

On February 25 2010 14:31 L wrote:

Depends who he's talking to and what its about. Chez lies plenty when he's trying to see people make mistakes.

On February 26 2010 09:24 XeliN wrote:
Ah wasnt even able to vote, silly mistake. Btw if johnny is mafia like he states and also gambino like he states would the other family simply not hit him? surely by his still being here that makes him sumiyoshi or am i missing something?

On February 26 2010 09:40 L wrote:

I'd say we also need to kill scamp to see if chezinu is legit, but i'm pretty sure the clues today are pretty blatant when it comes to captain drainage.

Interestingly enough, the encasement in black goo that I originally thought would be something between meeple and malongo ended up killing meeple and reinforcing the malongo link. Malongo typically posts a lot more than he does. That said, we need to get some credible information on if chez is lying through his teeth at us, which prioritizes scamp over him.

On February 26 2010 11:43 L wrote:
1) Ok.

2) I'm in awe that you wouldn't vote tree.hugger even if you thought on the balance of probabilities that chez was more mafia than scamp.

Would be pretty fucking odd to give us 3 hatters, 2 vets, 2 medics and 1 only dt in a 51 man game.

On February 26 2010 13:27 XeliN wrote:
Chez, can you please provide some sort of info that proves you are the DT

What do you have to lose by doing so?

On February 27 2010 08:08 Scamp wrote:
I was starting to think that L and I might be two sides of the same coin, but his continual insistence to doing nothing (at least publicly) has doomed him in my eyes. If he's scumhunting in PMs then someone needs to step up and defend him.

He keeps mentioning me as a solid cluelink, even though there's only one clue that's actually solid toward me and even then he admitted that it's more likely to point toward Chezinu. Continually pointing the finger at me is not scumhunting.

I asked Foolishness and L to defend Chezinu over a day ago. Neither has stepped up to offer anything. So let me ask the seven people who are voting for me: why? What makes me the most likely candidate? Is it because L said that some clues point to me?

I've noted how I've been targeted, SERIOUSLY targeted by both mafia families. That claim simply hasn't been countered. I simply ask: where is the suspicion coming from? I am simply a green townie, and my history/actions should prove that.

On February 28 2010 07:11 Chezinu wrote:
looks like town is in for another setback...

On February 28 2010 08:53 Chezinu wrote:


so I was looking for the clues pointing to me, but kind of gave up when I saw this and decided to update it.

On March 01 2010 10:47 Vivi57 wrote:
5. johnnyspazz (gambino)
8. Vivi57
11. XeliN
16. dozko
19. ShoCkeyy
23. Chezinu (dt)
24. Scamp
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
45. Versatile
47. Malongo (bg)
50. Foolishness
51. madnessman


reading the rules right now to see if its possible malongo is the gf and made himself appear as a bg then subbed himself in place of a real bg

On March 01 2010 09:38 johnnyspazz wrote:
god damnit
ok i thank the medic who saved me

On February 16 2010 05:10 Caller wrote:
People with wise things to say
Zato-1, Redtooth (just a lil') Foolishness (especially the part about people spamming shit),~Opz~ I think ~Opz~ always has valid points. I remember when I was running Red Army Mafia that he nailed a lot of people on clues, even if nobody listened to anything he had to say.

everyone else seems to be talking random shit if you ask me ~~~

On February 15 2010 00:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:


Well, L did have a point

Incog can't exactly include every mafia member in each day post if it's three spread to each family, then it would take 4 day posts just to show each member with 1 kill...


The Red army game I voted like every lynch I could to lynch Ace....Then when I got tired and blew myself up. Ace just has a very abrasive posting style...

In that earlier L vs Ace argument, it's easy to put both their sides in perspective. L supports clue analysis, Ace supports behavioral analysis. Goes very good with his piss-you-off personality. Personally, I feel it may be weak to lynch Ace off the bat.

Dr. H is who I'm looking at...Him and Chezinu flooding the thread.

On February 15 2010 11:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:
L and Ace do this every game, it's best just to ignore them both until L starts clue analysis. That's when you pay attention to L. We all just bandwagon with Ace. They are only good when they agree. L just doesn't have the same support as Ace for some reason...

On February 18 2010 03:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I give you Xelin

vs.
Abomination

Seem pretty similar in my opinion. Xelin's big green guy seems like he could do some damage, like cause big holes, or, (same clue set) jump off roofs, and rip people's heads off....

Not to mention Xelin hasn't said much, not that I have either, but I been a little busy, plus I wanted to wait til day 2...

On February 18 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Well, Shikyo's obsession with metal + the inscription on the handle of the pike?

I mean, maybe that just arises from my ignorant view of most metal...

On February 21 2010 01:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Change of rain?
Old shack, but it's two story and the whole floor comes down?
Panting, grunting, loud crash. This part made me think of Xelin, but not the rest.
Mafia can bring down a whole floor using water and sewage? It happens rather quickly.

For obvious Drainage and Sewage. Given how obvious clues have seemed.
The cat obviously knocked over something.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Scamp


It was raining earlier...
Background light coming at her. Slowly. Floating, Radiant.
The light was percieved as an Omen. It was charming. Also able to pierce skin. Laser? Fine pointed. Burned. The light is powerful.
Given the rest of the blatanly obvious clues...Hi Shockey? (I keep championing his death, but I'd be wary of this.)

The hawklike creature was large, dark, and scary. Nemy closed his eyes.
Mafia can drop boulders. Screeches. Nemy thought he was safe, this probably isn't important, I just like the false sense of security. =P
Flew accross the house with the impact, so it was very hard. I mean, I don't think a boulder would make you bounce, but he hit the roof beam.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ohN
For his quote. Mentions the sky, hiding, dropping.


Leisurely. Comfortable.
Sneaky, Hides to blend in with the river.
He heard singing? (maybe this one is oHn? Who's the pic in Redtooth's profile? Madnessmen to.)
ohn's music is trance. Pale man.
Too the point.
Wtf, ripping walls open again? Near the river side.
Where'd the fork come from? Fork, It's dull?
He's heavy. Crunching debris.
How'd the tree fall? Was it planned?

I dunno....Gotta be at work in 18 minutes. I'll come back to do the rest later. I get off in 8 hours though, 12 - 8.

On February 21 2010 03:20 Caller wrote:
~Opz always has good clue analysis. This is something that people should really, really pay attention too -_-

On March 01 2010 15:23 Vivi57 wrote:
wow that's a long post foolishness

I was actually planning on waiting till the day was over then calling for a nightkill of opz. In my mind, his random vote on drH then switching it randomly really soon after is a really good piece of evidence. At first glance, it looks like it distances himself from drH so that when either is killed, they won't be associated, but a deeper look tells otherwise. They just want you to *think* that when in reality, his attempt of separating himself from his fellow scum has failed miserably.

I opted to put scamp and ohn as innocent because I don't think they would mess with their kp this late in the game.

On March 01 2010 15:44 Vivi57 wrote:
also, it's probably a bad idea to vote for a mafia member then vote *with* him for your other vote

On March 01 2010 19:11 Scamp wrote:
Hey Foolishness, guess what? I just went through all of your posts and it seems to me that the case you made against Opz applies to yourself as well.

Opz made half-ass contributions to the game? Your contributions consist of the last second voting analysis and often stating "NO ONE CARES." By the way, what happened to that analysis? Way to bring it up and then never go back to it again.

Mafia plan: Come in when people are talking about you, make a few posts, disappear again. This is what you said, this is also what you've done. Maybe not to the extent where you only show when people are talking about you, but I noticed Ver pegging you on a small list of Sumiyoshi suspects.

Mafia plan: Kill people who are suspicious of you. Well guess who was killed: Ver. And guess who used Ver's analysis post-death as a reason to go after tree.hugger: You. Interesting. And guess who Ver suspected: You.

Your whole argument against Opz revolves around what Caller said way back early in the game. It really seems to me that Caller was talking about Opz in previous games, but you took it and made a really long argument with it about how he was expected to provide clue analysis. Because one person said so. The only part that seems clear to me is that Opz needs to participate more. That's pretty much it. Except perhaps the voting record.

So Opz hasn't voted for anyone that's mafia with the exception of Quickstriker. Guess who else fits that profile? You. Technically you get points for voting QS over redtooth, and I guess you voted for Bill Murray for mayor despite him not having a snowball's chance at that point. But you still have a highly suspicious record that now needs to be addressed.

Finally, you never explained why you voted for me yesterday other than to say that I'm more likely to be mafia over L and Chezinu. That's not what's wrong. You also mentioned MULTIPLE TIMES that L is CLEARLY INNOCENT and apparently you're trying to brush by that fact. You also were asked MULTIPLE TIMES by me to clarify HOW CHEZINU HAS PROVEN HIMSELF and you've just not addressed that at all.

Also nice contribution by telling J-spazz to just stop posting when he brought something up against Shockeyy.


So let's face it.....you really don't have the right to accuse someone like this when there's a lot of things you simply haven't addressed that have come up against you. I'd like an explanation please.

On March 02 2010 01:32 Scamp wrote:
Yes, please provide PMs that illustrate the point of Chez telling you not to lynch L.