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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 00:10 GMT
#234
On February 14 2010 09:06 l10f wrote:
Hello fellow town members, I would like to run for mayor. And you should vote for me. I don't want to die on the first night like last time, and since my star is blue, that must mean I have a blue role! So everyone vote for me

I also agree with Ver that we shouldn't be pointing fingers with one piece of information. We should wait till we have more, and if several clues point to one person, we have a better chance of catching the mafia.

Well, everyone GL HF!

whatever mafia....outside appearance means nothing... unless you fear death... but if you already know you are going to die... you would be much more desperate than that. So, in other words vote for me and if you are a blue role that happens to be medic then protect me. And by me stating this in the open public, I am protecting you... or am I?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 00:11 GMT
#236
On February 14 2010 09:09 Iaaan wrote:
and holy crap chezinu you talk alot

I'm sorry that I have no mafia friends to talk to at this time...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 00:31 GMT
#245
Reason to vote me for mayor:

If I was mafia: I will try to lynch the other competing mafia team and not focus on the town until we take care of our biggest threat.

If I am town: I will end my insane talk and talk normally for the first time for I wouldn't have to dodge any reads.

If I am either of above: I don't want to die... Tons of people already want me dead from previous games. Please don't spite...
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 02:10 GMT
#282
1) Ok, I will used my skills to pick out mafia and with the safety of mayor position I can talk normally and tell you exactly what I am thinking. No one in this game has experienced me talking normal to them. The only person I ever talked somewhat normal too was probably RoL, but he isn’t here.

2) Most games I played in the past, my team won. I lost only two times: one was a speed game (a good friend betrayed me by talking to someone whose name starts with a P) and the other was when my fellow mafia member decided to lynch me whose name also starts with a P… and of course the smurf game doesn't count - I don't think that game even had an ending.

3) My lynch target… not yet decided and debating, if I do decide on someone, if I should say it

publicly.. Will decide to announce it publicly or not depending on people's thoughts.

clue analysis

Two horsemen:
Clacked horseman – watched and laughed
Mirror horseman - tried to kill dreamflower with a spear.
Arson:
Used oil and a torch to kill Qatol
Killer from above:
Ripped incog’s head off and laughed.
Blue fire killer:
The blue fire grew brighter and brigher on the victim then boom!!! Blue light went everywhere.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 02:16 GMT
#285
oops the arson kill dreamflower...Just read day post..I was just pointing out the characters.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 02:28 GMT
#289
On February 14 2010 11:25 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 11:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Based on Ver posting insanely helpful tips to people, I shall vote for him to be mayor. If he wants me dead, that's his choice. However wrong he may be.


Unless I missed something... is Ver running for office?

They don't have to run in order for you to vote for them right? So, it is settled! Either vote for Ver, Chezinu, or citi.zen!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 03:02 GMT
#313
My pm - totally unrelated to the game..It was about my profile...

From: Abenson [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: hi
Date: 2/11/10 06:05
Can i see more than a what?
what picture o.o

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
can you see more than a picture?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 03:11 GMT
#324
On February 14 2010 12:09 Abenson wrote:
so that doesn't mean chezinu was mafia trying to get info out of us? D:

good guys get information too. Look at a previous game I played. I was DT and I got two mafia with my first two role checks.. but people were pretty inactive and weren't trying as hard...but still says something right?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 03:12 GMT
#325
On February 14 2010 12:11 Ace wrote:
No, come up with new plans. This entire discussion around whether to use Clues on Day 1 is so revealing already. Like I said it doesn't matter how many Mafia are in the game, using Clues to catch people isn't going to change the fact that they are subjective call outs. See the point now?

Ace I totally agree! You should vote for me because I use pm's to analysis people. And you should try to get everyone else to vote for me too.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 03:17 GMT
#331
On February 14 2010 12:13 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 12:11 Ace wrote:
No, come up with new plans. This entire discussion around whether to use Clues on Day 1 is so revealing already. Like I said it doesn't matter how many Mafia are in the game, using Clues to catch people isn't going to change the fact that they are subjective call outs. See the point now?

So basically you're innocent in the face of the only real piece of evidence we have on our lap?

Ok.

L, if Ace decides he doesn't like me remember, I'm on your side! You should tell everyone to vote for me because I was the first one to mention the obvious clues against Ace!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 03:20 GMT
#337
On February 14 2010 12:18 L wrote:
Well the fact that you didn't bother disputing the credibility of the clues when you're 100% certain that they don't point to you is interesting.

If the clue set regarding the moonlight horseman doesn't apply to you, then who does it point to? Instead of analyse what appear to be a substantive set of clues, you've ignored them and provided the town with no content.

There was a picture in someone's profile with a moon, a woman, and fire. I was posted earlier. Plus shadows and darkness was in Day 1 post of last game.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 03:28 GMT
#344
On February 14 2010 12:24 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 12:20 Chezinu wrote:
On February 14 2010 12:18 L wrote:
Well the fact that you didn't bother disputing the credibility of the clues when you're 100% certain that they don't point to you is interesting.

If the clue set regarding the moonlight horseman doesn't apply to you, then who does it point to? Instead of analyse what appear to be a substantive set of clues, you've ignored them and provided the town with no content.

There was a picture in someone's profile with a moon, a woman, and fire. I was posted earlier. Plus shadows and darkness was in Day 1 post of last game.


The picture you're thinking about is in Mystlord's profile...

So it looks like Mystlord could have jumped of the roof and rip incog's head off...or the moon thing...or the arson...

Or Ace could have done the same but instead of the arson replace it with blinding...

I'm too selfish right now to pick sides between L and Ace.. I wait to see who wins! hehe
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 03:47 GMT
#365
On February 14 2010 12:44 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 12:40 Fulgrim wrote:
On February 14 2010 11:45 Ace wrote:
Ok, the KingPin has arrived. Time to stop this nonsense and get this game started.

First of all, I'm going to be brutally honest here. Some of you playing are newbies. That isn't to say you're bad, but more so that you haven't had the experience of playing a true cut throat game of Mafia. The last 2 games were honestly so bland - aka too much talking about clues, that it wasn't really that much high level strategy going on.

Like Ver said, talking too much about clues early is USELESS. Don't try to convince anyone that someone is Mafia based on clues for the first few days. It's nice to mention it, but do not make it a central point of focus. MTF and Camlito are the best 2 clue analyzers along with Plexa that we ever had. That was in Mafia 2 and it took a ton of planning + input from various people to even come to some of those conclusions. Chances are you won't be able to do much with clues this game unless you've got some additional proof. What I mean by this is catch someone on behavior analysis + clues + shoddy voting or motives. Saying "this clue points to Ace" is just stupid.

Knowing this, I'm not surprised LL and Zato -1 are already accusing me. Look people, especially for you new players - I'm one of the biggest targets in any Mafia game. Every time. I'm super valuable. I catch people in lies all the time and I always save townies from the obvious bandwagon deaths. L and Zato may not have blatantly accused me but they just planted a seed of suspicion on me of all people, based on some wild clues. Be very wary of light weight accusations like this.

I'm running for Mayor of course. But in the event I don't win, my vote is possibly going to Ver. The only reason I might not vote for him is because he has elected to kill BC which is just as bad as L/Zato wanting me dead. Our most valuable players should be saved unless it's blatantly obvious they are Mafia. There are 3 teams this game, don't even bother trying to murder all of our good players so soon.


Ace you really need to give people more incentive if you expect them to vote for you. You should try and post something with more substance, then just "I'M ACE VOTE FOR ME". Some healthy mafia accusations never hurt anyone, I agree that clues aren't the most helpful early game as you can easily screw up, but its not any worse then just lynching a random player.


my incentive is there. I'm already the shining beacon of innocence I always am. If I tried to do anything radically different from normal I'd be labeled as Mafia and gg'd.

Ace, if you should have acting radical like me every game so that you can do whatever you want...but then it makes getting a mayor role really hard.. If only people could see pass my image and vote for me..I f only people could see pass the image in my profile and see it's true meaning...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 03:55 GMT
#371
On February 14 2010 12:49 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 12:47 Chezinu wrote:
On February 14 2010 12:44 Ace wrote:
On February 14 2010 12:40 Fulgrim wrote:
On February 14 2010 11:45 Ace wrote:
Ok, the KingPin has arrived. Time to stop this nonsense and get this game started.

First of all, I'm going to be brutally honest here. Some of you playing are newbies. That isn't to say you're bad, but more so that you haven't had the experience of playing a true cut throat game of Mafia. The last 2 games were honestly so bland - aka too much talking about clues, that it wasn't really that much high level strategy going on.

Like Ver said, talking too much about clues early is USELESS. Don't try to convince anyone that someone is Mafia based on clues for the first few days. It's nice to mention it, but do not make it a central point of focus. MTF and Camlito are the best 2 clue analyzers along with Plexa that we ever had. That was in Mafia 2 and it took a ton of planning + input from various people to even come to some of those conclusions. Chances are you won't be able to do much with clues this game unless you've got some additional proof. What I mean by this is catch someone on behavior analysis + clues + shoddy voting or motives. Saying "this clue points to Ace" is just stupid.

Knowing this, I'm not surprised LL and Zato -1 are already accusing me. Look people, especially for you new players - I'm one of the biggest targets in any Mafia game. Every time. I'm super valuable. I catch people in lies all the time and I always save townies from the obvious bandwagon deaths. L and Zato may not have blatantly accused me but they just planted a seed of suspicion on me of all people, based on some wild clues. Be very wary of light weight accusations like this.

I'm running for Mayor of course. But in the event I don't win, my vote is possibly going to Ver. The only reason I might not vote for him is because he has elected to kill BC which is just as bad as L/Zato wanting me dead. Our most valuable players should be saved unless it's blatantly obvious they are Mafia. There are 3 teams this game, don't even bother trying to murder all of our good players so soon.


Ace you really need to give people more incentive if you expect them to vote for you. You should try and post something with more substance, then just "I'M ACE VOTE FOR ME". Some healthy mafia accusations never hurt anyone, I agree that clues aren't the most helpful early game as you can easily screw up, but its not any worse then just lynching a random player.


my incentive is there. I'm already the shining beacon of innocence I always am. If I tried to do anything radically different from normal I'd be labeled as Mafia and gg'd.

Ace, if you should have acting radical like me every game so that you can do whatever you want...but then it makes getting a mayor role really hard.. If only people could see pass my image and vote for me..I f only people could see pass the image in my profile and see it's true meaning...


Please stop begging for votes... try to put forth some constructive ideas

OK, I shall state the obvious and call it constructive ideas:

1. clues are good to start conversation on day 1 and provide a way to accuse people without really accusing then so that you can perform behavior analysis
2. If you don't want me to read your role, don't reply to my pm's
3. I'm the safest person to elect as mayor. Why? No one trusts me. Think about it.
4. There is no such thing as a "waste post" That is just an excuse to get people to talk, distract, or focus attention.
5. I am insane and don't play like normal player - have fun reading me
6. You don't want to kill me
7. I will not listen to "town" aka mafia when I am mayor
8. I will kill both mafia teams equally?
9. How will I do this -- I won't, It's called a bluff.
10. I have no idea what is considered a "constructive idea" in this game...
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 04:02 GMT
#378
On February 14 2010 13:01 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 12:17 Abenson wrote:
L v Ace...
Flame war between vets o.o
it's like that in every mafia game. in reality, they love each other.

Do tell everyone the secret that what people say publicly isn't what they are thinking/saying in pm's!!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 04:14 GMT
#387
I think it will be nearly impossible for town to get a mayor role unless the mafia allow it. So please mafia, can you let me get elected?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 04:22 GMT
#393
On February 14 2010 13:20 l10f wrote:
Hmm, it looks like I won't be getting the mayor spot so easily! How about this, if I am elected mayor, instead of going on my vengeful rampage and lynching the people responsible for my quick death last game, I will lynch CHEZINU. You want to vote me now, don't you?

You see, this is how you run for mayor and a sure way to get yourself killed later!
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 06:25 GMT
#452
On February 14 2010 15:24 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 15:01 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
At this point, I'm all for citizen as mayor, last game he played extremely well, and he hasn't become involved in all of this Ace/Ver/L shaky clue analysis/finger pointing.

Ver hasn't exactly been a major contributor to this latest galactic confrontation between Ace and L, iirc. I'd say redtooth and myself have been far more active in that regard- not that either of us is running for office.

As to the elections, I'm undecided between I10f and L currently, though I'd seriously consider Ver if he presented a candidacy (which I believe he hasn't?). Ace doesn't seem to be accountable to anyone, and I've never played with citi.zen before. Chez... sorry man, promising to post exclusively coherent content is nice and all, but you should preach with the example rather than make promises. BloodyC0bbler's posts have inspired zero confidence in me so far... in fact, you had to look with a bloody magnifying glass to find any content in the post in which he announces his candidacy.

I'm sorry that I can't give examples since it is my first time running for a position.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 06:33 GMT
#459
OK, It is time....

This is why you should vote for me:

Because I am the

[image loading]


Take that mafias!

GG GS
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 06:36 GMT
#460
On February 14 2010 15:31 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 15:26 Ace wrote:
Come on L, you're really trying hard to force my death here. This is pretty bad play :/

When I flip green, you should just offer yourself to be voted off.

I think the moonlight rider is the most complete set of linked clues from the first post. I'm open to alternative explanations of who its pointing to, but no one's decided to balls up and go for it.

Including you.

If you flip red and I'm crowned as the best clue guy ever, I'll be sure to abuse my status and authority to get you killed off on day 1 using blatantly unrelated clues instead of incredibly damning ones in a future game. Sound good?

If he flips red, you have to admit that I found the clue first. Ace was one of the few profiles I memorized... I remember in Caller's game I caught him riding on horseback when he was on vacation.. ahh good old times...
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