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Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
January 27 2010 19:46 GMT
#661
Good luck guys ^^
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 27 2010 20:15 GMT
#662
On January 28 2010 04:15 no_re wrote:
The fact that Xelin was killed means he was probably right on a lot of his accusations, even though there was a high chance of him being lynched, the mafia decided he needed to be killed for sure.

That's a very strange comment to make.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
January 27 2010 20:20 GMT
#663
reasons why? seems like good logic to me

im annoyed. my circle of trust just got raped =[
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 27 2010 20:40 GMT
#664
On January 28 2010 04:33 no_re wrote:
Show nested quote +
Before Xelin could run, a branded hand grabbed him by the neck and strangled the life out of him. Xelin body would be found floating amongst some rocks in the morning.


= JadeFist?



I thought the same thing.


Fuck man, I could of sworn XeliN was a mafia. Guess, I was wrong, I am sorry XeliN for pointing so many fingers at you. <3 May you R.I.P.


Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 27 2010 20:41 GMT
#665
On January 28 2010 05:20 no_re wrote:
reasons why? seems like good logic to me

im annoyed. my circle of trust just got raped =[


Do you mean to say that you knew who these people were all along? Like what roles they played?
Life?
rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
January 27 2010 21:34 GMT
#666
2 of the 3 killed I trusted not to be mafia and talked with, yes
Fulgrim
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States560 Posts
January 27 2010 21:35 GMT
#667
On January 28 2010 02:39 d3_crescentia wrote:
Another water/sea related clue and two men in black.

2AM seems like a pretty substantial clue as well...

Blargh; gonna come back to this later.



I remembered something else being 2 in a previous post, in the day two post the time is 1 am, so I'm not sure if there is a connection except for it always being in the early morning, or just numbers. Also in the day 2 post:
quickly fired two shots and ran for cover.


Agh I was almost positive Xelin was mafia.... Sorry Xelin! So here we are with a double lynch and little idea with what to do with it. I'm going to look back and look at all of Xelin's (Iaaan's and fishball's too) and see what I can find, they were pretty active so we may be able to find clues from there.

Also I found another "stretch" clue that could possibly incriminate haster27, there is alot of references to water in the clues, day 1 and 3 the killings took place near the water. In haster's picture there is a picture of Florida with alot of water around it.....

I also see the connection to Jadefist in the last killing, the mafia had something on his hand.

Lets hope that our medics and DT's aren't all inactive......
One does not simply walk into mordor
Fulgrim
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States560 Posts
January 27 2010 21:36 GMT
#668
wow sorry thats not florida..... That's what I get for getting no sleep yesterday...
One does not simply walk into mordor
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 27 2010 21:59 GMT
#669
On January 28 2010 05:20 no_re wrote:
reasons why? seems like good logic to me
im annoyed. my circle of trust just got raped =[

It can just as easily work the other way. If the mafia kills off X, who has spent the entire game accusing Y, then the mafia could just be hoping that Y will be lynched.

On January 28 2010 05:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Fuck man, I could of sworn XeliN was a mafia. Guess, I was wrong, I am sorry XeliN for pointing so many fingers at you. <3 May you R.I.P.


XeliN talked too much, and with too little cohesion or sense. I always felt like he was the most obvious townie of us all, but having the unfortunate habit of barking up nearly every possible tree, and not really getting anything concrete out of it.

On January 28 2010 06:36 Fulgrim wrote:
wow sorry thats not florida..... That's what I get for getting no sleep yesterday...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

***

I feel that I've done a poor job of leading the town so far. I promised careful consideration, but I feel as though I've been too careful, and too unwilling to take risks. With the death of at least one bodyguard, my position becomes more and more acute. We're running out of time, so we've really got to nail this double lynch.

I've put in italics anything that seems interesting or suggestive:
On January 28 2010 02:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The night was cold, very cold. That is what it seemed to Xelin. The man swam faster and faster to escape his foe. He looked back and didn’t see anyone and swam to the safety of the shore. As he pulled himself from the water he looked up to see a man leering down at him. Before Xelin could run, a branded hand grabbed him by the neck and strangled the life out of him. Xelin body would be found floating amongst some rocks in the morning.

This killing seems very similar to the very first killing. We have another murder conducted on the shore/beach. We have another killing that references water. The one facet of this murder that opens up a new light on this mafia member is the 'branded hand' - a phrase that is almost surely not accidental.
1. Can we reconcile Jadefist with water? 'Jade' with 'branded'?
2. Can we reconcile drinking with a 'branded hand'?

On January 28 2010 02:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Across town, two men had decided to setup in their home to survive the night. Both took up arms, and had barricaded the doors and windows. Both had then taken to different rooms, not sure if they should trust each other further. Fishball was in the living room relaxing, gun across his legs. He heard the sound of movement from outside the house and knew it was nothing to worry about with the house locked down. The sound eventually stopped, and fishball turned the tv on low. He then heard something in the basement, then stood up and turned in time to see the basement door fly open, and a man in black charge him. Before he could fire, the mafia had already stabbed his blade into fishball and then ripped the blade upwards cutting the now dead townie in half from the chest up.

This killing doesn't necessarily bring to mind any past killings per se, but there are many points of interest.
- The killer comes from below.
- He somehow enters a barricaded house.
- Sound is associated strongly with this killer.
- This killer uses a knife, and a strange method of dismemberment.

On January 28 2010 02:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
During this same period of waiting, Iaaan was in the kitchen, with a few knives on the table for his own protection. He checked his watch and saw that it was 2 am. He heard the commotion from the living room, drew a knife and moved towards it. Just as he entered the room, he heard a noise from behind him, he turned and lashed out with his knife, only to have his arm blocked by the man in black. Before he could make another move, a knife was driven into Iaaan s heart. As he fell, his eyes gazed down to his watch, nothing had changed.

It's a little unclear, but these two killings were likely committed by different mafia, although there are similarities. The use of 'the' (man in black) suggests that they may be the same. I'm not sure. The reference to 2 am is surely not unintentional, and brings to mind the two shots fired by the 'technical drawing' mafia. However, there is little in Iaaan's killing besides the number that might connect the two.

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johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
January 27 2010 22:05 GMT
#670
OH MY GOD WHAT A TURN OF EVENTS LOL
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
January 27 2010 22:06 GMT
#671
im so sorry i thought you were mafia xelin i really am
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Fulgrim
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States560 Posts
January 27 2010 22:18 GMT
#672
On January 28 2010 06:59 tree.hugger wrote:

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2010 06:36 Fulgrim wrote:
wow sorry thats not florida..... That's what I get for getting no sleep yesterday...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

***


I actually have been looking at Haster's picture since the first day with the clue about water, but I didn't want to post it until anything more came up. I thought it was Florida until I posted lol
One does not simply walk into mordor
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 27 2010 22:27 GMT
#673
On January 28 2010 05:20 no_re wrote:
reasons why? seems like good logic to me

im annoyed. my circle of trust just got raped =[

Because it's not good logic. The mafia could have killed XeliN because he was getting too close to the truth, or because they could have killed him to throw the rest of us off. Or a combination of both - one of his list might in fact be mafia, but the rest of them could be townies. I don't believe that he was 100% correct, or even 50% correct, though I feel his later guesses are better than his earlier ones.

I'm surprised that everyone thought XeliN was mafia. He had a tendency to be angrily defensive of his own ideas, which grates on everyone's nerves and attempts to draw attention to himself - which in 90% of the time means he's just butthurt about not being listened to. It garners suspicion onto him, yes, simply because his manner of speech could be so abrasive, but I didn't think he was an experienced enough player to have been acting as a double-agent all that time.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
January 27 2010 22:42 GMT
#674
I'm not sorry...about xelin.

He didn't make sense...

Mafia games on here really need to start requiring sigs, profile pics...y'know?

I'd be able to be connected to zebra's, the color pink, suicide bombing (I was a mad hatter one game!! Well...the russian one...)

I would like to attach Velkan to the basement killer, because he used a blade, not a knife and quick striker to the watch clue....He was also able to block the the attack by iaan, which would of required quick movements.

The watch not changing with Iaan's death could point EASILY at quickstriker....And it isn't a blatantly obvious, "hey it was a quick movement" it was a "nothing had changed."

Hold on...maybe his watch wasn't working....What about side sprang?

The water clue is probably too obvious for Drinking...
Now I'm not just saying, hey lets go for him, someone else do some better clue analysis...

Any you mr. tree hugger, I'm gonna need some better out of you too....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
January 27 2010 22:55 GMT
#675
I didn't think about it...But what about shockeyy?

He has a little bracelet thing on his hand in his profile...the next part is kind of a stretch, but extremely cold water can bring on shock...and his profile, the picture he is wearing has team LIQUID on it....

actually...I feel this is good....And he voted to lynch xelin, along with me, BUT I PUBLICLY stated my reasons for disliking Xelin, I didn't apologize for his death, AND I said I'm down with shockeyy, just for lynching xelin, but I disagreed with the reasoning shockeyy had....

So....

I say we lynch shockeyy....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
January 27 2010 22:56 GMT
#676
Posting now before it is too late. I will display extreme low rate of participation due to university midterm occuring at Feb.1 and Feb. 3. I am keeping up with the thread (or so I thought, with my Xelin vote -_-) so I will try to post my opinions when possible.
RoyW
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Ireland270 Posts
January 27 2010 23:39 GMT
#677
Ugh, that's it
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 27 2010 23:48 GMT
#678
On January 27 2010 17:46 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Tree.hugger, we can add RoyW for the 2 if you want...two caps...., but might as well put me up for that too...

And I'm almost willing to throw you to the gallows myself because the drawing clue...

No offense, I like you by far the most of all the canidates, but this is mafia, not a popularity contests. Basically what I'm saying is, I wouldn't hesitate to vote to lynch you if it came down to it.

And to the rest of you reading this exchance, NO I am not hopping on Xelin's bandwagon. I think he is retarded and mafia...or just retarded. My reasons for suspecting tree.hugger are my own, and have came through the shared knowledge of his actions, and his own clue interpretation. I am not sure how strong my suspicions are, so they must not be that amazing...But as long as Xelin's dead, I wouldn't hesitate to try and off you tree.hugger...

And funny how the flame wheel dude tells me my flaming is mean...

I'm sorry buddy, it's just this is mafia...I can get away with calling a retard a retard here...Is there a problem BC?


Oh yes, ironic isn't it. Allow me to quote the rules:

Posting Etiquette:
In the past, many players have complained or quit because of the excessive bm and pointless flaming. If you are posting agressively and know you couldn't get away with it anywhere else on this site, it probably isn't ok here. Besides, contrary to what you may think, yelling at someone is a great way to convince people to disagree with your arguments. Please do not post inappropriately, or it will earn you a warning based on mod discretion. If you choose to ignore the warning, you will be modkilled. Examples of inappropriate posts include excessive cursing and vulgarity, among other things.

Bolding done by me.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-28 00:08:27
January 27 2010 23:58 GMT
#679
On January 28 2010 08:48 flamewheel91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 17:46 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Tree.hugger, we can add RoyW for the 2 if you want...two caps...., but might as well put me up for that too...

And I'm almost willing to throw you to the gallows myself because the drawing clue...

No offense, I like you by far the most of all the canidates, but this is mafia, not a popularity contests. Basically what I'm saying is, I wouldn't hesitate to vote to lynch you if it came down to it.

And to the rest of you reading this exchance, NO I am not hopping on Xelin's bandwagon. I think he is retarded and mafia...or just retarded. My reasons for suspecting tree.hugger are my own, and have came through the shared knowledge of his actions, and his own clue interpretation. I am not sure how strong my suspicions are, so they must not be that amazing...But as long as Xelin's dead, I wouldn't hesitate to try and off you tree.hugger...

And funny how the flame wheel dude tells me my flaming is mean...

I'm sorry buddy, it's just this is mafia...I can get away with calling a retard a retard here...Is there a problem BC?


Oh yes, ironic isn't it. Allow me to quote the rules:

Posting Etiquette:
In the past, many players have complained or quit because of the excessive bm and pointless flaming. If you are posting agressively and know you couldn't get away with it anywhere else on this site, it probably isn't ok here. Besides, contrary to what you may think, yelling at someone is a great way to convince people to disagree with your arguments. Please do not post inappropriately, or it will earn you a warning based on mod discretion. If you choose to ignore the warning, you will be modkilled. Examples of inappropriate posts include excessive cursing and vulgarity, among other things.

Bolding done by me.

Like flamewheel says, there is an effort to clean up the mafia forum because the flaming got a lot worse after you stopped playing. It started pissing people off to the point where they decided to quit. So now we try to keep the games a little more civil.

(And BC is fully on board with this.)
Uff Da
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 28 2010 00:05 GMT
#680
Some thoughts on these clues:

One of these mafia has previously not been featured before, if we consider that there are 7 mafia and 3 x 2 deaths.

The first mafia seems to be the same mafia from day 1, with a similar location of where the murder occurred - that is, near the water. However, we have a second clue here in the form of the branded hand, which could mean any number of things... though putting it into Google yields a poem. The poem honors a seaman who was convicted and branded on his right hand for helping slaves.

There are some lines in the poem that refer to a 'Saviour'. Curiously, gaizka is a Basque name which means precisely that.

The second mafia uses a blade. He could potentially be the one from Day 2, but there are no references to odd formations made with the blade, but some to sound which suggests Day 1's mafia. Again, we have iloveKT for sound and VelkanKnight for blade, though after doing some research I'd also like to add Fulgrim for blade (as the WH40K character uses a sword), however much of a stretch it could be.

I don't believe we've witnessed a mafia that's used knives and has an association with time/watches before. I have no idea who this could be, though my feeling is that it's the previously unfeatured mafia.
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