Yes, we lynch them next. Then mafia is down to 1KP and we have some time to grind it out. The "red shortlist" is not that long, medics are more effective now... blah blah.

Good night and well played town.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 29 2010 04:17 GMT

#1673

CynanMachae was already in bed at this point, having returned home much earlier. However, he was having a hard time falling asleep due to the shouts and clamor of the rest of the townspeople rejoicing in the streets. He stared at his alarm clock and waited with mounting impatience as people gradually stopped shouting outside his house but still kept banging and thumping. Finally, he couldn't take it anymore. He stomped down to his front door and threw it open, yelling, "Go home, you troublemakers!" Instead of the crowd of people he'd expected, however, he saw only a single man on his front lawn, holding a hammer. CynanMachae peered around in puzzlement but didn't notice anything that looked like it had been beaten in. Nevertheless, he glared at the man and took a step outside, preparing to chastise him for making all that noise and keeping him awake. To his surprise, the front step crumbled under his foot and he tumbled forward, his forehead landing squarely on a sharp rock that had been placed there all too conveniently on the ground. As CynanMachae died, he heard the man snicker to himself before he turned and left.

This suggests smarts, planning, anticipation to me. Something like this:

The board is a mirror of the mind of the players as the moments pass. When a master studies the record of a game he can tell at what point greed overtook the pupil, when he became tired, when he fell into stupidity, and when the maid came by with tea.

Weaker than I would like, but we should be getting more clues by the time we get to him.

In the meantime, keit is still my no.1 for lynching. I do think treadmaster is very suspect, but no more so than Hyperbola. The plodding could fit both, but the frightening appearance and the strangling point to Hyperbola in my mind. Both have shady posting histories, much more so than Nikoner.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 29 2010 12:10 GMT

#1684

The killer was smart and deliberate: he anticipated where Cynan's head will fall, and placed a sharp rock there aheah of time. A "rock"!

We are in no hurry with the last two killers, so I am open to other suggestions, but a GO player is thus far the best fit in my view.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 29 2010 16:11 GMT

#1686

I guess it is a question of the size of the suspect list once Hyperbola and keit are gone. If it is more than 3 names long, then waiting is best, agreed. Otherwise we can end it by killing 2/3 people between the night and day cycles.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 29 2010 17:15 GMT

#1692

I'm am really a mafia guy gone rogue.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 29 2010 18:03 GMT

#1697

Yeah, it was fun and intense. We got lucky on a few fronts... Bill's post was one, but also the mistake DrH made telling Zona I was role-checked green - from that day on I suspected him above all others and just focused on collecting more and more evidence. He was too smart to just casually make a mistake like that if was green or blue - that carelessness only made sense if he was red.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 29 2010 18:50 GMT

#1698

In the other mafia game, on the other hand, the reds are doing just peachy!

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 29 2010 19:21 GMT

#1702

On January 30 2010 03:56 meeple wrote:
Yeah I just saw that they double lynched a green and a blue. I wonder if the Mafia will win that game... its pretty close. 15-6

I think its 11 vs 6 actually - only 17 players left. All medics are dead, so mafia should keep killing 3/night. Seems over, if the town somehow pulled it off it would be an epic comeback.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 30 2010 02:22 GMT

#1710

No thanks, I've seen what you guys do to Sheriffs. I like my townie seat just fine, with a front row view of the gallows.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 31 2010 02:45 GMT

#1717

Sooo.... our shortlist for the last two:

Phrujbaz in pole-position for the first one
Jugan, derfboy... or a maybe for Nikoner

Should we use the vigilante on Phrujbaz and lynch jugan and derfboy next day?

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 31 2010 02:53 GMT

#1719

Tredmaster's cool, he ain't red.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 31 2010 04:26 GMT

#1722

Done deal.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 31 2010 23:57 GMT

#1726

I guess his rants are the last bit of entertainment in the thread though: -)

citi.zen

2509 Posts

February 01 2010 02:27 GMT

#1733

Jugan was a miller. LOL - he sure acted like one at the end there.

GG all.

DoctorH, why did you let me live night 2? I had no idea I was protected by the medics - do you know?

citi.zen

2509 Posts

February 01 2010 02:28 GMT

#1735

Holly crap, just noticed the mayor was a miller too. Not bad, after all officials can't be role-checked!

citi.zen

2509 Posts

February 01 2010 02:30 GMT

#1736

Ok, I thought derfboy's clues pointed to Phrujbaz. Good thing they were both guilty.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

February 01 2010 02:45 GMT

#1744

DrH's original mistake was to tell Zona I was role-checked green by Bill. I could never understand why he would do that - I trusted nobody at that time and he didn't have any reason to trust Zona either. Early game I was desperately trying to make sense of that mistake of his. When I got the clue check report, it fit, otherwise I would not have trusted it as readily. Flame and meeple, as it happened, were independently trying to persuade me DrH was fishy.

Once he went down the other mafia did come out too strong, but really much of the damage was done. It would have been more work, but I mean... DrH wrote over 250 posts, saying things like the cookie monster did not fit the clues because it reminded him of a "retarded bear" :-)

citi.zen

2509 Posts

February 01 2010 02:47 GMT

#1745

On February 01 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

Show nested quote +

The mafia assumed medics would be protecting you. Our original kill list for day 1 was Bill Murray/you/zona

but, I figured if medics are protecting anyone, it's gonna be citi.zen, let's kill abenson to throw people off and then we can save citi.zen until the medics are gone or we can hit him twice in the same night.

I see. I had no idea, but it turns out I WAS protected by both medics that night anyway.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

February 01 2010 03:35 GMT

#1752

Yes, I think if you kept Bill alive and asked him to do harmless (to you) missions like role-check non-mafias you could have won & had info about the blues. You are the first person he trusted, as did much of the town at that point.

The "a DT roleclaimed to me" public message did not matter to me much. I knew directly from Zona of your conversation with him. The he got killed and was green - so I knew it was not edited by him, it was real. Message below spoiler...
+ Show Spoiler +

DrH has mentioned to me that the detective who claimed to him said you were town.

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Original Message:
Yes. Why did you ask?

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Original Message:
(I'm interpreting your answer to mean - yes, there are others who are asking you the same question.)

Well, yes or no, has anyone contacted you claiming to be a detective?

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Original Message:
yes, there are others.

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Original Message:
There's more people asking you the same question?
I'll tell you why I'm asking if you tell me yes or no.

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Original Message:
I wonder why everyone is asking me that tonight...

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Original Message:
Has anyone (don't tell me who) revealed themselves to you claiming to be a detective?

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Original Message:
lol, his posts in the chess thread sometimes amused me in the past.

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Original Message:
I'm now positive Bill is just a silly player. He posts inappropriately elsewhere on the site, too - like posting his own fantasy proleague team in other people's blogs. Likely town, as mafia teammates would probably tell him to shut up. Still doesn't make him an asset to the town, though.

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Original Message:
briefly. don't know what to think now.

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Original Message:
Also - have you been in contact with DrH?

That is when my trust in DrH slipped - not so much Bill's death. After all, this is what Bill had written to me:

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Original Message:
i suppose. i am an outgoing person, and if that's why i lose, that's fine.

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Original Message:
Can't hurt for you to be a bit more careful with your pm's though.

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Original Message:
i just rolechecked you and you came up as a townie....
so unless you're the godfather, we should stick together

Bill's after-death post did hurt, agreed, and it was a real shame. However, by then I was very suspicious of DrH already because of Zona's message/death. Meeple and flame also wanted his head. I had a chat with them on messenger + received the clue check... and it all ended up in that long anti DrH post.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

February 01 2010 03:39 GMT

#1754

Yes, poor Hobbes, this post was awesome:

On January 29 2010 13:07 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
all I know is finally the clues dont suggest me... considering the last few nights I was expecting tonight to be "his orange, stripy attacker left a great deal of fur and tuna fish behind..."