On January 23 2010 12:45 meeple wrote:
When he was begging for protection, everyone took it as a joke... at least, everyone who didn't know he was a detective

He clearly though of himself as a mafia target. Why would the mafia hit citi.zen, zona, or someone like that when medics more than likely covered them? Bill Murray begs for medic protection, isn't taken seriously, and along with what Jugan says "that he's been stirring things up behind the scenes" it doesn't seem so strange to me that an intelligent mafia could have suspected him as a blue from that information alone.

It's even better than no one took him seriously, since the mafia would then assume no medics will actually protect him.

I think we should focus on the clues we received for now.

Jugan

United States1566 Posts

January 23 2010 03:48 GMT

#963

On January 23 2010 12:40 citi.zen wrote:
For what its worth, I will confirm that, right or wrong, Bill did trust me, Jugan and Dr.H.

He thought Jugan had to be in the clear since he told Bill "I hope I'm not the miller". I have no idea why this would be evidence for anything, or why in general he would trust anyone he did not role-check.

Bill didn't really trust me, we just talked about how crazy t_co is and my "I hope I'm not the miller" line in one of my posts. He did mention that he only trusted DrH because he's the sheriff.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 23 2010 03:49 GMT

#964

On January 23 2010 12:46 meeple wrote:
And how are we supposed to trust these pms? Jugan already denied his

Jugan didn't deny that we sent those pm's to eachother.

Jugan

United States1566 Posts

January 23 2010 03:49 GMT

#965

On January 23 2010 12:46 meeple wrote:
And how are we supposed to trust these pms? Jugan already denied his

I didn't deny the PM. I simply stated that you misinterpreted it.

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

January 23 2010 03:51 GMT

#966

ok... still I don't think its a coincedence. But I'll focus on the clues from today

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 23 2010 03:53 GMT

#967

Another PM from Bill Murray, choose to believe it or not.

"honestly, i trust you 3rd of the players (behind citi.zen and someone else), and i trust you more than meeple. i trust him 4th or 5th. that being said, there is no way for me to rolecheck you. if you or meeple are red, i expect you both to be, and the game is already essentially lost. if you're both red, you will probably not kill me, as i trust you all more than the opposition. "

So there was someone else he was talking to in pm besides me and citi.zen it seems. Although I have no idea who. I would guess Zona if I had to since BM asked me what I thought of Zona, but that's not for sure.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 23 2010 03:56 GMT

#968

On January 23 2010 12:51 meeple wrote:
ok... still I don't think its a coincedence. But I'll focus on the clues from today

Well, regardless of what you personally think, there are numerous objective reasons why the mafia might have hit him from the information he revealed in public.

As far as the clues, you're thinking Hobbes? I'm not sure about that. It seems strange he would be referred to in clues on both days. flamewheel91 is my best guess for the time being.

510Sushi

Azerbaijan331 Posts

January 23 2010 03:58 GMT

#969

well regardless of the actions of Bill we need to decide who to lynch today

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 23 2010 03:58 GMT

#970

Agreed, flamewheel91 is by far and away the strongest suspect now. The Olympic runner reference seems very strong.

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

January 23 2010 03:59 GMT

#971

What about the animal clue of the second killer? Not very many other animals in ppls profiles

StimiLant

United States534 Posts

January 23 2010 04:00 GMT

#972

do a double lynch on hobbes and flamewheel?

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 23 2010 04:01 GMT

#973

That could be relevant or not. The second clue set seems quite weak to me. I guess the first clue yesterday could have been keit and that would fit hobbes in there.

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

January 23 2010 04:02 GMT

#974

keit is a better fit for yesterday's number 1 guy imo anyways...

510Sushi

Azerbaijan331 Posts

January 23 2010 04:02 GMT

#975

i say we use a double lynch and take both flamewheel91 and Hobbes
Hobbes comes up with obvious connections to the clues left behind, and i believe that the profile picture for flamewheel91 fits in very well with the first set of clues, (Olympian)(the man is a runner, or a track and field athlete)
i find these two people to be prime candidates for lynching, and with the heavy loses we had on night one we need to take a strike back at the mafia today

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 23 2010 04:03 GMT

#976

we have to vote for a double lynch a day in advance if I'm not mistaken.

510Sushi

Azerbaijan331 Posts

January 23 2010 04:04 GMT

#977

On January 23 2010 13:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
we have to vote for a double lynch a day in advance if I'm not mistaken.

we can vote for it today and lynch tomorrow can we not?

[NyC]HoBbes

United States803 Posts

January 23 2010 04:04 GMT

#978

why would you use a double lynch this early when it won't reduce the Mafia KP...

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 23 2010 04:04 GMT

#979

Jayme has a cat, Hobbes the tiger, Hyperbola a squid (?)

Could kane]deth[ by a suspect for Bill killing too? kane = sledge-hammer, used to kill Bill?