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On January 08 2010 09:40 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 04:04 L wrote:
I like how the two players I specifically prodded into switching votes, so that we wouldn't end up killing malongo are now raging about the fact that we killed malongo rather than a poorer player.
Can't have it both ways, champ. I like how a long time before that I said killing malongo was a bandwagon move and we should have just killed Judge instead. It's ok though, if I survive tonight there's going to be hell on Day 2.
I like how that has nothing to do with picking malongo over RoL, and how there was a bandwagon of exactly the same size thrown at judge which you didn't bother stopping, but rather helped to start.
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On January 08 2010 10:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 10:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Why do you guys keep mentioning me like I was even close to a lynch candidate?
Malongo accused me so we must either lynch me or him?
I don't remember ever seeing that logic before. I didn't want to lynch you. L said because you're a bad player you should be lynched. I said because Judge was lying and because he made a bad play he should be lynched. They both kept their votes on Malongo. L said I should switch my votes to you and I flat out told him that wasn't going to happen. The game I claimed DT L said it was a terrible play. Judge claims Medic Day 1 and L says no, no way a Mafia would do that. Seriously L, why the double standard?
Because your 'plan' was to get everyone to claim to you nearly immediately, get all of the bodyguard information, ignore the currently in place town plan for confirming DT sanity, and then proceed.
Judge has made no such requests besides 'don't kill me tonight'.
See the difference?
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On January 08 2010 10:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
lynch chez.
Actually guys lets just hit him tonight.
Or I can vigi him in the next night phase.
Are you claiming vig? Or are you claiming to know the vig?
Either way, this is going to get hilarious REALLY fast.
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On January 08 2010 12:04 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 11:44 Zato-1 wrote:On January 08 2010 11:31 Ace wrote:On January 08 2010 11:22 L wrote:On January 08 2010 10:28 Ace wrote:On January 08 2010 10:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Why do you guys keep mentioning me like I was even close to a lynch candidate?
Malongo accused me so we must either lynch me or him?
I don't remember ever seeing that logic before. I didn't want to lynch you. L said because you're a bad player you should be lynched. I said because Judge was lying and because he made a bad play he should be lynched. They both kept their votes on Malongo. L said I should switch my votes to you and I flat out told him that wasn't going to happen. The game I claimed DT L said it was a terrible play. Judge claims Medic Day 1 and L says no, no way a Mafia would do that. Seriously L, why the double standard? Because your 'plan' was to get everyone to claim to you nearly immediately, get all of the bodyguard information, ignore the currently in place town plan for confirming DT sanity, and then proceed. Judge has made no such requests besides 'don't kill me tonight'. See the difference? What town plan? You mean the one after I died that everyone conveniently decided not to follow? There wasn't a town plan unless you mean the stupidity you tried to sell the town on. And I didn't want everyone to claim to me. I asked for BG information which when I died made sense. Judge's request of don't kill him shouldn't be held in higher regards than anyone else begging not to die (see Malongo). So you're wrong on what I did last game and you still haven't even given good reasoning as to why Judge should have been blindly trusted in the first place. But it's ok, all this pales in comparison to what Zato-1 is going to go through. All seven levels of hell, because I didn't follow your plan blindly like a good little puppet? I'm sorry Ace, that course of action only works for me if I'm on the same team as you. And I'm not quite certain you're Town-aligned this game. But hey, as long as you attack me with well-constructed arguments (unlike your "I don't trust Judge, ergo autolynch"), I'll be happy to defend myself. It would be a waste to lynch me when there's actual mafia out there, especially if yet more leadership were to fall to you. more leadership? lol nice I didn't even know I was a leader yet. The 5 of you that voted malongo off are all top suspects. Especially when ya know, you were the one who started the bs bandwagon and the others hopped on to it with lame excuses.
Actually, it was you and RoL that started the bs bandwagon, and we counterwagoned, the exact same activity that you said you were doing.
Go check the goddam voting thread. I even gave you an option to change the lynch target and you didn't take it.
As for last game; the fact that town didn't follow the plan was expressly not brought up by me because i happened to be mafia and the plan was actually quite a lot better than what you proposed.
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On January 08 2010 13:25 Chezinu wrote:
Hmm.. No clues, and no majority lynches made for an awkward D1. However, I have a plan.
I AM A DECTECTIVE.
Stop. Read. Let it sink in. I just openly claimed to start the second day.
Other detectives (if you exist), stay in hiding.
Why?
BLIND FAITH. It is needed. For once trust somebody who you think is crazy for once. What if I really am the detective? What if I found out mikeymoo is mafia? Let me think....
Why else would one abandon the brown? I have seen the light! Never before have this happen! Crazy things happen in incog's world! Last time I visited this world my father Ace betrayed me! This is not a world for brown but of blue! Listen to my words! I truly am the Detective! Mikeyoo is mafia!!!
I could not think of any reasonable way to tell you guess im blue. Just look at the statistics. I have never been blue before not once. You think I would ever abandon the brown for any other reason?
So I call upon the GREAT LACES to help me lead this town to lynch mikeymoo!
Oh jesus here we go.
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Zato, I thought you were Vig from those PMs, hence my reply to RoL's insinuation that he was going to vigi someone.
Guess i'm bad at reading.
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This is so stupid, which is likely going to require me to do something equally stupid to cancel it out.
Gimme a bit.
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nemY, sup, you're posting a lot of emotional, rather content poor posts today. what's up with that?
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On January 09 2010 07:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2010 07:26 L wrote:
nemY, sup, you're posting a lot of emotional, rather content poor posts today. what's up with that? lol why do you think everything everyone posts is filled with emotions? You sound like Dr. Phil. Nemy it doesn't make sense to vote for Judge tonight, this lynch is either going to be Mikeymoo or Chezinu. Killing Judge is something you needed to vote for yesterday instead of people voting Malongo like a bunch of retards.
Dunno, my doctor phil side probably saw you write two short posts that were 50% in caps and figured that you had something to say, then I read it and noticed that you were trying to trick my doctor phil side, so I had to call you out, like he often does with skanky teens or deadbeat fathers.
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1) Lol I thought nemY wrote that first segment of the last post I quoted, so change all 'you' instances to 'nemY'.
2) What are we going to do today? In order to summarize our situation, I will recap the history of this game in another post.
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On January 09 2010 09:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
L What the hell are you talking about rofl? Where did I post anything in 50% caps? Who am I trying to trick with what? and what did I just get called out on?
I swear to god, I really think I have seen you contribute NOTHING for the entire thread.
I said I meant nemy in that post.
10/10 for reading comprehension.
As for contribution; I've introduced every relevant topic we've talked about thus far. What have you done, by contrast? Lash out in a 6 post spree? Not even going to bother wasting time on your stupidity.
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Okay, recap time:
Recap time:
Day 1: Judge claimed. I told him he was retarded for doing so. RoL/Ace led a charge to get Judge killed. I did not agree with killing him, and we ended up killing malongo because we couldn't switch votes to someone else.
During day 1, Judge told me what was supposed to happen today and tomorrow, and I'll be honest; the plan doesn't have holes in it beyond the standard "someone didn't listen" which is what happened. We can run it tomorrow, but if chez really is the DT, I don't think he'll listen to it. Worst case scenario, we trade the DT for the godfather, best case scenario, we probably win the game. Granted judge's prior comments about how powerful a dt/medic combo would be in this format without a roleblocker, I can actually see him attempting to make this trade. That said, there's a slight modification of his plan which removes the possibility of a trade, which I would have presented during the day when it was revealed.
RoL and Ace vote Judge, others vote malongo to stop judge from getting killed. An option to switch the kill target is given and passed on. Malongo dies, is green as most assumed.
Most importantly, Heavonerth is killed.
SOMEONE PLEASE GET A LIST OF ALL HIS POSTS
Why is this important? Because it wasn't me, ace, rol, judge, zato or any of the 'content' posters
Day 2: Chez claims he's the DT and has checked mikeymoo. People go batshit. Zato claims to be vig. People go double batshit.
So we can examine this from two points of view: If you were mafia, how would you react to a bunch of town members claiming? Well, maybe you'd claim too! Throw a wrench into their gears. Alternatively, you could attack the credibility of their claims. This has happened for pretty much every claim thusfar.
If you were town and people claimed, what would your reaction be? Well, you can be somewhat angry that a dt and medic 'revealed' themselves, because they would be likely to die, but at the same time given the volume of claims, its likely that some of these claimants are lying, and that one of them is probably going to get protected. But would you assume immediately that they had to be mafia?
While one of the claimants might be mafia, it is highly unlikely that all 3 are.
Zato is nearly 100% town; if he hits someone tonight, barring a medic protection, we can be certain its him. If someone objects, we kill them both and we net a mafia.
Chez is a retard, but we can make sure he's telling the truth by having him check someone else; We can discuss who during the night because I'd rather not have people fishing in PMs to find out the roles beforehand.
Judge is probably town too, but even if he's godfather, I can force him to die for no benefit if we go along with his plan.
So overall, it seems like mikey is the best shot right now; If chez is lying, we vig him tonight.
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10/10 for misquoting That's why i issued an edit with a new post.
As for the rest; you're really not worth the time.
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When you guys hear the full plan, you'll be shocked at how simple confirming judge is. In a foolproof 100% closed manner.
More importantly, lynch MM first; If chez is lying, we can vig him during the night cycle and both die. If he's telling the truth, then he might be killed during the night by mafia if he really is the dt, and if he isn't, he'll die soon thereafter.
There's no reason to kill chez prior to mikey, unless we're certain that chez is lying.
So are we certain chez is lying? Is it worth the risk of killing our DT?
RoL, i find it kinda interesting how you suggest killing me, but not Ace, given your rationale for killing judge. He's in nearly the exact same position judge is regarding this lynch whereas I'm quite the opposite.
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lynch MM first
Emphasis.
If we're going to kill either chez OR mikey, this is the way to go. If we have other leads, we can discuss those too.
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On January 09 2010 15:43 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2010 15:36 L wrote:
He's in nearly the exact same position judge is regarding this lynch whereas I'm quite the opposite. I haven't seen you vote yet...hehe
I normally vote late. gives me more time to think and gives me more voting information to look at when making my choice. My assumption that we're going to kill mikey or chez, however, is just that; an assumption. I'd rather kill a few other people, but i don't think we'd have support for it. I also don't like switching my vote unlike someone.
HO HO HO, I MEANT YOU.
:D?
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you get confirmed by death
HEY LOOK YOU FIGURED IT OUT.
So basically like I said the instant you "came up with such a brilliant plan" you were just lying and wasting everyone's time. Nah, the plan was pretty good if you funneled the DT confirmation through someone that was more certain to be green (me for instance, or through zato after his vigi hit goes off, for instance) it essentially pays huge dividends; the only way mafia can fake into it is by risking 2 members. If he's GF, the trade is DT for GF, which is a net plus for mafia because the other two members get off the "dt clock", so to speak, but he never even gets that option if the information is funneled elsewhere: ie through me. Pretty much everything objectively pointed to him not being a medic when he claimed day 1, which is why you should have interpreted the event as someone fake claiming medic for another purpose.
Either way, today we lynch mikey unless someone comes up with something better.
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On January 10 2010 10:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2010 02:24 L wrote:you get confirmed by death HEY LOOK YOU FIGURED IT OUT. So basically like I said the instant you "came up with such a brilliant plan" you were just lying and wasting everyone's time. Nah, the plan was pretty good if you funneled the DT confirmation through someone that was more certain to be green (me for instance, or through zato after his vigi hit goes off, for instance) it essentially pays huge dividends; the only way mafia can fake into it is by risking 2 members. If he's GF, the trade is DT for GF, which is a net plus for mafia because the other two members get off the "dt clock", so to speak, but he never even gets that option if the information is funneled elsewhere: ie through me. Pretty much everything objectively pointed to him not being a medic when he claimed day 1, which is why you should have interpreted the event as someone fake claiming medic for another purpose. Either way, today we lynch mikey unless someone comes up with something better. You forgot the second part of my post. If you can kill the DT and trade for GF you become in good shape T_T I still don't think this plan clears Judge.
The GF only trades for the DT if the information isn't funneled through a green third party. Otherwise, if judge was the GF, put himself up for lynch and dies while funneling his information through another party, he would die and obtain no information besides knowing who the DT's mouth would be.
Trading the GF for the DT is a fantastic setup.
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On January 10 2010 13:28 Scamp wrote:
Something is wrong here. I just can't put my finger on it, though.
L is okay with Chezinu's thoughts, and is relying on someone else to come up with something better.
Zato was pretty proactive day 1 then disappeared.
Ace isn't mad at anyone day 2, apparently.
And RoL is the most active.
Something is most definitely wrong.
Well anyway even if Mikey and Chez are both townies and we kill them both and the mafia gets one more kill, we'll have 7 people left with 3 mafia. MYLO at the worst.
But still, I just can't shake the feeling that there's something missing.
I'm not so much 'okay' with chez's thoughts, so much as I think that regardless of if he's bullshitting or not, mikey should be killed first. If mikey is mafia, we don't vig chez. If mikey is innocent, we vig chez.
Even if mikey flips mafia, I don't think that clears chez.
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woo, chez is 99.9% legit now Not really. Could have been a sacrifice to gain trust.
But hey mikey. That's why we kill the roleclaimer, right?
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Hey bros, Some people didn't vote to kill mikey. They are suspicious.
Sup Ace :3
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