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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 09 2010 06:53 GMT
#441
On January 09 2010 15:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 14:30 Ace wrote:
Because Judge can't be confirmed. They've been giving us this runaround for 2 days and get upset when we ask for it and we're the ones being labeled as irrational.

I'll try and make a post before I get out of here tonight, but Chez should definitely be lynched first unless we all come to the consensus MM is definitely scum. At this point it's one guy's word against the other and Chez's play before he claimed was scummy. And like I said before if he didn't do that I would have believed him.

As for Judge being town I still don't believe that. Zato-1 on the other hand I do believe.

I would go with what you said except for one thing. I believe killing mikeymoo gives us a better vigi candidate. While if we lynch Chezinu we only learn to either A. Vigi MM or B. Vigi someone else?

If we kill MM first and hes not mafia then we know killing chez gives us scum, if MM is mafia then we should hit either L or Judge. Judge posts how MM probably is mafia but we should kill Chezinu because its some evil plan from mafia to infiltrate using Chezinu as decoy.

Summary, Lynch Chez we either don't know who to vigi or we vigi MM. Lynch MM first we either kill Chez or Judge. Doesn't matter either way.

Hey judge you can even confirm yourself this way too! If we have Zato hit you and you protect yourself his hit won't go through!


Ok I understand why you're for killing MM...but how does that confirm Judge or even L?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 09 2010 07:17 GMT
#442
If you look right when Chez comes out and claims Judge says some crazy shit about how MM will be mafia but that doesn't mean Chez isn't and it seemed a really really fucking weird angle to come from. L might of been a stretch. I would say L only if Judge came back red too. They both have just been harping on this plan for way too long and not giving us anything. I thought we were supposed to learn about it today.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 09 2010 07:39 GMT
#443
This is the quote I am talking about. This would just generally be a really bad ploy.


On January 08 2010 16:44 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Chezinu, you are a fucking idiot.

WILL THE DT WHO CHECKED ME PLEASE CONFIRM WITH ME VIA PM. CONFIRM WITH YOUR INVESTIGATION RESULT. IF I HAVE NO CONFIRMATION WITHIN 12 HOURS, I WILL ASSUME NO DT CHECKED ME, FUCKING UP THE PLAN.

If anyone believes that Chez is a DT, you are a fucking idiot. This is a clean and simple bus by mafia as a ploy to throw my plan off. Mikeymoo is probably going to be mafia. Chez is going to sacc a mafioso to attempt to gain trust. Mafia KP does not go down. Chez will start naming off innocents and just cruize mafia to victory with this.

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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
January 09 2010 09:51 GMT
#444
Tomorrow I cannot post the day post at the regular 8:00 PM PST. So the night post will go up at 10:00 PM PST. Do you guys want me to extend the voting till then also? Or do you want me to close voting at the regular time? Please post your opinions in the voting thread. I will announce the decision 4~6 hours before voting closes.
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vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
January 09 2010 10:00 GMT
#445
Prepare.
To.
Be.
Amazed.
At.
How.
Much.
You.
Suck.
RoL.
And.
Ace.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
January 09 2010 10:01 GMT
#446
L & idiots, I present you:

THE PLAN


I am a vanilla townie. The medic claim was to have a few things happen. First, it does fuck with mafia, because they don't know if I'm telling the truth. Second, because a lot of times, the real medic will protect that player on D1 just to see how it goes. They have no other people to protect and if it's mafia, it's not like they would've made a successful prot on N1 anyways. I was going to call for a DT investigation and to PM me to confirm. The DT would've confirmed himself by pming me "I got town as your role". At that point, I would come clean as VT and act as a mouth for said DT and funnel information to him. Have all players claim to me, funnel to him - let town lynch me to confirm my VT-ness, but send out directions for the night before I died.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 09 2010 10:33 GMT
#447
So you get confirmed by death but by that time you already have the DT's name as well as everyone elses.

Sure hope you aren't godfather...
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 09 2010 11:30 GMT
#448
Oh...oh my god! Brilliant!

Surely the DT wouldn't think that the fact you purposely claimed Medic to draw an investigation to yourself and a GF isn't in the game you'd never even attempt to pull a stunt!

So basically like I said the instant you "came up with such a brilliant plan" you were just lying and wasting everyone's time.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
January 09 2010 17:24 GMT
#449
you get confirmed by death


HEY LOOK YOU FIGURED IT OUT.

So basically like I said the instant you "came up with such a brilliant plan" you were just lying and wasting everyone's time.
Nah, the plan was pretty good if you funneled the DT confirmation through someone that was more certain to be green (me for instance, or through zato after his vigi hit goes off, for instance) it essentially pays huge dividends; the only way mafia can fake into it is by risking 2 members. If he's GF, the trade is DT for GF, which is a net plus for mafia because the other two members get off the "dt clock", so to speak, but he never even gets that option if the information is funneled elsewhere: ie through me. Pretty much everything objectively pointed to him not being a medic when he claimed day 1, which is why you should have interpreted the event as someone fake claiming medic for another purpose.

Either way, today we lynch mikey unless someone comes up with something better.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
January 09 2010 20:27 GMT
#450
There's little to say at this point, other than the fact that Judge's plan was kinda clever. Too bad the DT didn't check him on N1.

As has been suggested by many, it's either Chez or Mikeymoo tonight. Based on their posts, I find Mikeymoo more likely to be mafia than Chez (he's only begun posting more since he was pointed at by Chez, and didn't have any defense to speak of). Besides, if he was Town, he'd have tried to give us useful last words before his death- since he knows he'll just flip red, he's not even bothering to do that.

I find this post from L summarizes the game so far nicely- except for the fact that I did, in fact, think Malongo could've been mafia when I originally voted for him:
On January 09 2010 10:47 L wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I said I meant nemy in that post.

10/10 for reading comprehension.

As for contribution; I've introduced every relevant topic we've talked about thus far. What have you done, by contrast? Lash out in a 6 post spree? Not even going to bother wasting time on your stupidity.


______________

Okay, recap time:

Recap time:

Day 1: Judge claimed. I told him he was retarded for doing so. RoL/Ace led a charge to get Judge killed. I did not agree with killing him, and we ended up killing malongo because we couldn't switch votes to someone else.

During day 1, Judge told me what was supposed to happen today and tomorrow, and I'll be honest; the plan doesn't have holes in it beyond the standard "someone didn't listen" which is what happened. We can run it tomorrow, but if chez really is the DT, I don't think he'll listen to it. Worst case scenario, we trade the DT for the godfather, best case scenario, we probably win the game. Granted judge's prior comments about how powerful a dt/medic combo would be in this format without a roleblocker, I can actually see him attempting to make this trade. That said, there's a slight modification of his plan which removes the possibility of a trade, which I would have presented during the day when it was revealed.

RoL and Ace vote Judge, others vote malongo to stop judge from getting killed. An option to switch the kill target is given and passed on. Malongo dies, is green as most assumed.

Most importantly, Heavonerth is killed.

SOMEONE PLEASE GET A LIST OF ALL HIS POSTS

Why is this important? Because it wasn't me, ace, rol, judge, zato or any of the 'content' posters

Day 2: Chez claims he's the DT and has checked mikeymoo. People go batshit. Zato claims to be vig. People go double batshit.

So we can examine this from two points of view: If you were mafia, how would you react to a bunch of town members claiming? Well, maybe you'd claim too! Throw a wrench into their gears. Alternatively, you could attack the credibility of their claims. This has happened for pretty much every claim thusfar.

If you were town and people claimed, what would your reaction be? Well, you can be somewhat angry that a dt and medic 'revealed' themselves, because they would be likely to die, but at the same time given the volume of claims, its likely that some of these claimants are lying, and that one of them is probably going to get protected. But would you assume immediately that they had to be mafia?

While one of the claimants might be mafia, it is highly unlikely that all 3 are.

Zato is nearly 100% town; if he hits someone tonight, barring a medic protection, we can be certain its him. If someone objects, we kill them both and we net a mafia.

Chez is a retard, but we can make sure he's telling the truth by having him check someone else; We can discuss who during the night because I'd rather not have people fishing in PMs to find out the roles beforehand.

Judge is probably town too, but even if he's godfather, I can force him to die for no benefit if we go along with his plan.

So overall, it seems like mikey is the best shot right now; If chez is lying, we vig him tonight.


Mikeymoo had better be mafia, Chez, for your own sake. Then again, if he does flip red, figuring out my target for the night won't be so easy.
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vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
January 09 2010 21:15 GMT
#451
On January 09 2010 20:30 Ace wrote:
Oh...oh my god! Brilliant!

Surely the DT wouldn't think that the fact you purposely claimed Medic to draw an investigation to yourself and a GF isn't in the game you'd never even attempt to pull a stunt!

So basically like I said the instant you "came up with such a brilliant plan" you were just lying and wasting everyone's time.


Hey Ace.

It's not my fault you're in all honesty a shitty mafia player who relies on broken setups where you can follow the PR to victory and thus can't wrap your feeble mind around a well thought out plan.

Quit raging at the fact that someone who isn't you had a plan to lead the town to victory.

GG fucker.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
January 09 2010 22:07 GMT
#452
Judge.. you sound so sure about your statements about Ace... it's like your a detective or something...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
January 09 2010 22:42 GMT
#453
None of the mafia is pming me anymore... Mikeymoo hasn't talk to me in a long time and I sent him so many pm's. He didn't even tell me if he forwarded the pm's to his mafia buddies. I know he had school, but it is Saturday now.. So I'm just wondering, has the other two mafia talked to him recently? Is he upset that you guys went with my plan and voted to lynch him today to gain trust?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 09 2010 22:57 GMT
#454
On January 10 2010 07:42 Chezinu wrote:
None of the mafia is pming me anymore... Mikeymoo hasn't talk to me in a long time and I sent him so many pm's. He didn't even tell me if he forwarded the pm's to his mafia buddies. I know he had school, but it is Saturday now.. So I'm just wondering, has the other two mafia talked to him recently? Is he upset that you guys went with my plan and voted to lynch him today to gain trust?

Hi.
You're spamming my inbox with shit.

Who says I can't be busy on a Saturday? It's called homework.

For posterity:

Chezinu Dear mikey 1/10 07:35 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu is it him? 1/9 15:15 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu dun dun dun 1/9 12:09 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu what role do you think I am> 1/9 06:55 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu you having fun? 1/9 06:22 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Hey guys! 1/8 20:52 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Dear Mafia 1/8 10:35 Save / Delete / U

ffs. You're on my personal ban list. I now remember why I stopped playing mafia. It wasn't because of school, it's because of players like you that continually post/PM bs. I think it makes the game unenjoyable for everybody involved. If I fail to respond to a PM, stfu.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
January 09 2010 22:58 GMT
#455
On January 09 2010 19:01 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
L & idiots, I present you:

THE PLAN


I am a vanilla townie. The medic claim was to have a few things happen. First, it does fuck with mafia, because they don't know if I'm telling the truth. Second, because a lot of times, the real medic will protect that player on D1 just to see how it goes. They have no other people to protect and if it's mafia, it's not like they would've made a successful prot on N1 anyways. I was going to call for a DT investigation and to PM me to confirm. The DT would've confirmed himself by pming me "I got town as your role". At that point, I would come clean as VT and act as a mouth for said DT and funnel information to him. Have all players claim to me, funnel to him - let town lynch me to confirm my VT-ness, but send out directions for the night before I died.

I think it would be easier for the DT to make people think he is mafia so that he can live. Then he could rolecheck mafia on the first night. Now, throughout the night and the next morning he can run through the streets yelling that "mikeymoo is mafia!" His bluff shields that he put up that night could to protect him from the mafia. The following day mikeymoo could get lynched! BAM! One mafia down! Now after mikeymoo dies, The DT could actually get real protection from the town, hopefully *hint hint*. Now he can yell throughout streets all he wants!

Not only is my plan easier; it is way more fun!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
January 09 2010 23:00 GMT
#456
On January 10 2010 07:57 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 07:42 Chezinu wrote:
None of the mafia is pming me anymore... Mikeymoo hasn't talk to me in a long time and I sent him so many pm's. He didn't even tell me if he forwarded the pm's to his mafia buddies. I know he had school, but it is Saturday now.. So I'm just wondering, has the other two mafia talked to him recently? Is he upset that you guys went with my plan and voted to lynch him today to gain trust?

Hi.
You're spamming my inbox with shit.

Who says I can't be busy on a Saturday? It's called homework.

For posterity:

Chezinu Dear mikey 1/10 07:35 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu is it him? 1/9 15:15 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu dun dun dun 1/9 12:09 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu what role do you think I am> 1/9 06:55 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu you having fun? 1/9 06:22 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Hey guys! 1/8 20:52 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Dear Mafia 1/8 10:35 Save / Delete / U

ffs. You're on my personal ban list. I now remember why I stopped playing mafia. It wasn't because of school, it's because of players like you that continually post/PM bs. I think it makes the game unenjoyable for everybody involved. If I fail to respond to a PM, stfu.


all you had to do was ask. I won't pm you anymore!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 09 2010 23:01 GMT
#457
As for what Zato is saying, there is nothing for me to "defend". Either you believe Chezinu or you don't. Then you vote based on what makes sense to you. Zato, you assume that I have something useful to give town. I don't. Neither does Chez. What useful last words should I post? Basic fundamentals of the game? How not to lynch people that are 100% town?
This game is beyond belief.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 09 2010 23:03 GMT
#458
On January 10 2010 08:00 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 07:57 mikeymoo wrote:
On January 10 2010 07:42 Chezinu wrote:
None of the mafia is pming me anymore... Mikeymoo hasn't talk to me in a long time and I sent him so many pm's. He didn't even tell me if he forwarded the pm's to his mafia buddies. I know he had school, but it is Saturday now.. So I'm just wondering, has the other two mafia talked to him recently? Is he upset that you guys went with my plan and voted to lynch him today to gain trust?

Hi.
You're spamming my inbox with shit.

Who says I can't be busy on a Saturday? It's called homework.

For posterity:

Chezinu Dear mikey 1/10 07:35 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu is it him? 1/9 15:15 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu dun dun dun 1/9 12:09 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu what role do you think I am> 1/9 06:55 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu you having fun? 1/9 06:22 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Hey guys! 1/8 20:52 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Dear Mafia 1/8 10:35 Save / Delete / U

ffs. You're on my personal ban list. I now remember why I stopped playing mafia. It wasn't because of school, it's because of players like you that continually post/PM bs. I think it makes the game unenjoyable for everybody involved. If I fail to respond to a PM, stfu.


all you had to do was ask. I won't pm you anymore!

It really should be obvious, and it's kind of childish to keep going. No hard feelings, but it doesn't change the fact that I don't want to play with you. Mafia's not the only thing in my inbox/life.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
January 09 2010 23:57 GMT
#459
On January 10 2010 07:57 mikeymoo wrote:
I now remember why I stopped playing mafia. It wasn't because of school, it's because of players like you that continually post/PM bs. I think it makes the game unenjoyable for everybody involved.


Yup, you remember correctly:

On August 10 2009 14:37 mikeymoo wrote:
Good effort overall. I think the players/roles were fairly balanced.
Showtime fuck you I'm never playing a game with you again. And before your large ego decides that it's because you're too good at this game, I suggest that you take a look at your "confirmed" list of pretty much non-mafia.
Pyrr, thank you for hosting. This must be such a pain in the ass.
mikeymoo out.


Can you enlighten me what you consider a waste/bs post? I asked this question earlier, but no one answered me.

Does it have to do with coloring your name red to mean it is accurate? Or do you think my filler posts in between aren't enjoyable?

On May 24 2009 15:12 mikeymoo wrote:
This is how players generally read posts when there's 4+ pages to catch up on.
"filler... filler... OOH BIG POST WITH COLOURS MUST BE ACCURATE...
filler... filler... malongo's an idiot... L is lashing out... filler...
OOH COLOURS"
I think it was Caller's strategy to blend in not making informative posts but still posting.

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
January 10 2010 00:14 GMT
#460
Voting has been extended until 10:00 PM PST.
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