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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
January 11 2010 08:10 GMT
#585
On January 11 2010 16:49 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Ace, if my play was so bad, and I was for sure not the medic...

why kill me?


Let it set in.



GG.


Way to be cocky about it bud, I was the one who sent the hit in (Ace was afk) and I just blindly picked someone and it happened to be you

My original plan was to lynch Chez, but after he up and outed me as mafia, I felt that would be a bit too blatant to kill him, so with time running out i resorted to a random hit. Your play had nothing to do with your death
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
January 11 2010 08:51 GMT
#589
On January 11 2010 15:47 Incognito wrote:
L kept saying that the town should keep checking HeavOnEarth's post, someone (Scamp?) compiled a list but it was ignored. nemY kept questioning the mafia's choice to kill HeavOnEarth day 1, but the town didnt' catch on. Too bad since HeavOnEarth picked out Ace + nemY as mafia. I was really sad about that, but I guess it doesnt matter too much ja?

Next game no medic self protects.

Question for everyone about DT checks: should checks be returned when they are asked for or after the day post comes up? Usually I think this hasn't been much of an issue, but this game DT got two mafia in a row and DID decide to claim so I don't know what you guys think about that.



See this game had a weird/interesting scenario that will probably never happen again (unless Chez is DT again... ok it will probably happen again). Last night I wanted to hit Chezinu so bad. MM was dead and gone, Ace had been afk for awhile, so it was essentially team me. I wanted to hit Chez for a few reasons:

1.) He's the DT at best, a mouth at worst. If he's the DT, great we got him and we eliminate the possibility of role checks. If he's a mouth for somebody, then we've eliminated that channel for the DT to use and will be that much closer to drawing him out.

2.) He's annoying.

3.) He just busted MM on being mafia. Of course we'd want to kill him, unless we can convince the town he's not actually the DT (which i was trying rather unsuccessfully to do).

4.) He's annoying.

So anyways I log onto TL at or around half time of the Packers/Cardinals game to report my hit when I notice I have a new PM. I log into my msgs and guess who it's from? Sure enough after that I go look at the mafia thread and see some number of posts of Chez saying "NEMY'S MAFIA". Kinda puts a wrench in my plans to kill him doesn't it? I can kill him out of spite and i'd still be dead the next day or i can kill somebody else and try to defend myself against the useless onslaught of "HE'S MAFIA" posts and absurd logic of the town. At least I thought the town's logic was absurd... I thought I did a decent job of defending myself considering the situation, oh well probably too little too late.

However if I had gotten the hit in before he could receive DT check then this situation would have never happened. He'd be dead and the spotlight wouldn't have shone so brightly on me. It wouldn't have mattered in the end game of this game because Ace was vigi'd anyways, but it certainly could be a game changer in future games.

nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
January 12 2010 07:22 GMT
#632
On January 12 2010 05:10 L wrote:
When did you try to accuse either mm or nemy, or when did they try to significantly play against you? nemY and you were united on the most important issue of the game as well; the issue of whether or lynch claimers. This should have been a huge portion of your strategy this game; there's no kp loss for sacrificing a member.

Your main mistake, however, was trying to push for chez's lynch prior to mikey when we had a vig hit up. There was no logical basis for that.


You know something though L? Even if I had been townie, I still would have pushed for Judge's death from the start. You guys can say I was in alliance with Ace all you want, but I tbh I tried hard to play this game from a townie's perspective and whether or not I was a townie, allowing ppl to role claim right off the start is just plain dumb. Especially when I am 99% sure Judge WAS NOT THE MEDIC

Regardless, it was still fun;This game was definitely a change up from the previous mafia games I've played (think of the previous big games with lots of ppl I've played in) and I feel like I learned some things (in hindsight not picking out RoL as the true medic was pretty FAIL on our part), that will help me be a better mafia in the future .
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
January 12 2010 19:49 GMT
#640
On January 13 2010 01:10 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 16:22 nemY wrote:
On January 12 2010 05:10 L wrote:
When did you try to accuse either mm or nemy, or when did they try to significantly play against you? nemY and you were united on the most important issue of the game as well; the issue of whether or lynch claimers. This should have been a huge portion of your strategy this game; there's no kp loss for sacrificing a member.

Your main mistake, however, was trying to push for chez's lynch prior to mikey when we had a vig hit up. There was no logical basis for that.


You know something though L? Even if I had been townie, I still would have pushed for Judge's death from the start. You guys can say I was in alliance with Ace all you want, but I tbh I tried hard to play this game from a townie's perspective and whether or not I was a townie, allowing ppl to role claim right off the start is just plain dumb. Especially when I am 99% sure Judge WAS NOT THE MEDIC

Regardless, it was still fun;This game was definitely a change up from the previous mafia games I've played (think of the previous big games with lots of ppl I've played in) and I feel like I learned some things (in hindsight not picking out RoL as the true medic was pretty FAIL on our part), that will help me be a better mafia in the future .


Lynches aren't for killing people you don't like. They're for killing mafia. Unless you thought judge was mafia, there was no reason to hit him, much like there was no reason to hit chez prior to mikey.

You guys are using a shorthand solution from arguments we've had in other formats to justify a very poor move.


Uhhh, where did I say he was someone I didn't like? I said his play (from a townie's perspective) was dumb. Everyone knew he wasn't medic. Trying to disregard that I was mafia and think like a townie (which is somewhat difficult when you have so much inside information obv) I put Judge from a Vet at best to GF at worst, hence why I pushed for his lynch.

Regardless of my role next game, if someone role claims Day 1, I'm going to push for their lynch again.
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