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On January 07 2010 08:34 L wrote:Show nested quote +There is no reason to hold back. Secondly we do not know if he's telling the truth because we can't confirm it. 1) There's a rather large reason. 2) We will be able to find out if he is. Ace, feel free to examine what's going on objectively, because it makes things rather easy to sort out. Last game's ruleset made it even more retarded to try to do what you did. Don't see how you're helping your case here; Clear example of pot and kettle. Either way, even if this was a 'mistake' from a medic's point of view, it would most certainly be a double mistake from a godfather's point of view; Again, there are ZERO instances of godfathers claiming this early, and there ARE ways of confirming him as town or mafia. Nothing point to the fact that he should be killed tonight, unless you're scared that you won't be smart enough to sway the town away from his plan if its bad, right Ace? Normally you aren't so short sighted  .
Last game I could be invincible. What are you talking about? lol have you forgotten already? It doesn't matter if you think he's a GF. The point is no one claims medic on Day 1. It's seriously a dumb move. It's like 4 pooling on an island map. There is nothing to gain. And this hey let's wait and see his plan along with this I can't tell you guys what my plan is mentality is screaming Mafia. And to top it all off now we want to lynch Malongo based on nothing? lol right. You guys are making PERFECT sense here.
Answer me on how we are going to confirm judge is a medic.
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Interesting. So Malongo who was fucking randomly plucked out of no where for doing nothing wrong is all of a sudden about to die?
Really smart guys. Just look at that wagon go.
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you must be a salesman in real life
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Judge I always try to stop the town from killing people with random bandwagons. That's not a scum tell that's an ACE tell. That's probably the one trait that you can find I do consistently every game.
Oh and argue with RoL too.
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On January 07 2010 09:43 L wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2010 09:17 Ace wrote:
Interesting. So Malongo who was fucking randomly plucked out of no where for doing nothing wrong is all of a sudden about to die?
Really smart guys. Just look at that wagon go. Well, you had ample time to make an argument for someone other than judge; I already stated why I think malongo is a fairly safe first day lynch; he's obviously not blue otherwise he'd be active and care a bit more about his impending death. I'd rather lynch someone else, but there's not enough time to get people to switch, especially with you trying to kill judge.
Does him being blue even matter? He hasn't done anything suspicious at all.
And I don't have an argument for anyone else. Seriously Judge is the only person that seems suspect to me.
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On January 07 2010 09:45 L wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2010 09:43 Ace wrote:
Judge I always try to stop the town from killing people with random bandwagons. That's not a scum tell that's an ACE tell. That's probably the one trait that you can find I do consistently every game.
Oh and argue with RoL too. I find it very odd that given that judge won't be killed that you aren't pressing to get RoL killed, and that RoL, who absolutely hates you, has been toddling around and towing your line. Sup with that, bro?
why would I want RoL killed again?
How is him echoing me even relevant?
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how is stopping a bandwagon anti-town? You'll have to explain that one to me. I've done it every game regardless of what role I've had so you can't call it a tell.
The second part was sarcasm.
L I'm not switching to RoL unless there's a really convincing argument.
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I can see just fine. Someone claims to be a Medic Day 1 and I'm supposed to just sit back and be like omg fine!
Right Judge. Right ^_^
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@L: The only person I'd want to see die is Judge.
@Judge: You forgot the other part: Is a townie trying to stop the town from lynching a player with no cause. You can read the game where I think BC almost got MikeyMoo lynched and I stuck my neck out to save him. Both of us were innocent.
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indeed L.
Except I didn't pick because neither of them seem more fishy to me than Judge.
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On January 07 2010 10:00 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2010 09:55 Ace wrote:
@Judge: You forgot the other part: Is a townie trying to stop the town from lynching a player with no cause. You can read the game where I think BC almost got MikeyMoo lynched and I stuck my neck out to save him. Both of us were innocent. I almost never see this. One example does not justify a meta defense.
I've done it more than once. I do it ALL THE TIME.
If you want we can pause the discussion and make a poll. You can also PM everyone that has played past Mafia games. They'll all tell you I stop town bandwagons from killing innocents regardless of my role.
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On January 07 2010 10:05 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2010 10:02 Ace wrote:On January 07 2010 10:00 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:On January 07 2010 09:55 Ace wrote:
@Judge: You forgot the other part: Is a townie trying to stop the town from lynching a player with no cause. You can read the game where I think BC almost got MikeyMoo lynched and I stuck my neck out to save him. Both of us were innocent. I almost never see this. One example does not justify a meta defense. I've done it more than once. I do it ALL THE TIME. If you want we can pause the discussion and make a poll. You can also PM everyone that has played past Mafia games. They'll all tell you I stop town bandwagons from killing innocents regardless of my role. Then you can't use it as a defense. And I don't use meta as a way to clear people, I use it as a way to crucify them if they play to a certain meta overall. Plus, the hole in your logic is "I do it all the time" which means you can still be scum.
But you made it sound earlier that defending innocents is a Mafia trait when I just proved to you that it is not. Hence why I called you out on it. You can't say me defending Malongo makes one or both of us scummy. There is no hole in my logic because I already admitted I do it regardless of my role.
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thats nice Judge. But like I've said before you shouldn't be surprised I'm not going for fake Medic claims.
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L if you're concerned about RoL why isn't anyone else voting for him? (besides me of course)
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That voting thread sure is something else.
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I know L is laughing very hard right now
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On January 07 2010 11:34 L wrote:
Lol, so chezinu changed his vote because Ace promised that if he was mafia he would kill him a day later.
stop grasping at straws. I haven't even spoken to Chezinu all game.
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On January 07 2010 12:44 Chezinu wrote:
Malongo you can save yourself...
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are you serious?
so you just flip flop voted multiple times, and now if Malongo dies and flips innocent you can say he had a chance to "save himself". lol interesting really.
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On January 07 2010 12:54 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Everyone fast lynch Chezinu XD
seriously I would
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On January 07 2010 13:07 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
EBWOP because I'm just posting off the hilt atm.
@RoL - I'm making the assumption that there is a DT off of the constant nagging of people saying on this forum "There has to be a DT/Medic combo or else it's rape against Town."
For the record, DT/Medic is an overpowered combination in pretty much every open game if it isn't balanced out by multiple KP or a mafia roleblocker. DT can outright claim and have the medic stay in hiding and just protect him every night while he investigates while the mafia has to blindly try and snipe the medic. By then a slew of confirmed townies pop up and it's GG for mafia. We luck out in the fact that we generally use multiple KP or these games would be busted wide open by any competent two players.
I said this a few pages back. DT/Medic is also somewhat busted by GF roles, but only somewhat.
And the reason you need DT/Medic is because without both Mafia is just going to run wild killing everyone and people will be scared to post knowing they have no protection.
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