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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 07 2009 20:24 GMT
#1361
oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first.
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SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
November 07 2009 20:41 GMT
#1362
On November 08 2009 05:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first.


He also uber lynched Chez...
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
November 07 2009 20:42 GMT
#1363
That's great...dreamflower putting a bomb on two mafia...too bad it didn't actually go through. Would've been instant rape night 2. Mafia team looked a bit strong but I guess that's what you have when the town has THREE DTs.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 07 2009 20:51 GMT
#1364
On November 08 2009 05:42 Incognito wrote:
That's great...dreamflower putting a bomb on two mafia...too bad it didn't actually go through. Would've been instant rape night 2. Mafia team looked a bit strong but I guess that's what you have when the town has THREE DTs.

Yes, the mafia was deliberately a bit strong to make up for the town having a lot of blues (although there were 3 DTs because DTs were weakened with the sanity issues) and because 4 felt a little on the low side.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 07 2009 21:03 GMT
#1365
Ver and I were also very impressed by this post:

On October 25 2009 10:30 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Still sticking to this list with small modifications:

1. Dreamflower
2. Foolishness
3. Ace <-- He admitted this, but how true is it?
4. vx70GTOJudgexv
5. RebirthofLegend
6. Bloodyc0bbler
7. Incognito
8. Amber[Light]
9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- becoming suspiciously more red.. in Chez's terms, he's brown
10. L
11. Tricode
12. Vivi57 <-- We all know he's red now.
13. Infundibulum
14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red
15. Scamp
16. Shikyo <--10% red
17. Caller
18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability
19. Redtooth <-- not blue
20. Heavonearth <-- not red
21. Chezinu


Something that surely must be seen
we don't know if HeavonEarth is green
motbob is still alive!
mafia will thrive
we need the town to be more keen

3/4 mafia correct with the last one labeled as blue. Very impressive. Too bad you changed your mind on some of these reads.
Uff Da
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 07 2009 21:07 GMT
#1366
On November 08 2009 05:41 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 05:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first.


He also uber lynched Chez...

Yeah, he didn't know his vote would count for 2 because of how the voting worked the day before, and he couldn't really go back and change it without dropping huge hints as to who he was.

We really weren't happy with that, but oh well.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 21:08:48
November 07 2009 21:08 GMT
#1367
On November 08 2009 06:07 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 05:41 SugiuraMidori wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first.


He also uber lynched Chez...

Yeah, he didn't know his vote would count for 2 because of how the voting worked the day before, and he couldn't really go back and change it without dropping huge hints as to who he was.

We really weren't happy with that, but oh well.

It didn't matter though. Chez still had the tiebreaker even if Pyrr had only used 1 vote.
Uff Da
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
November 07 2009 21:11 GMT
#1368
On November 08 2009 06:03 Qatol wrote:
Ver and I were also very impressed by this post:

Show nested quote +
On October 25 2009 10:30 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Still sticking to this list with small modifications:

1. Dreamflower
2. Foolishness
3. Ace <-- He admitted this, but how true is it?
4. vx70GTOJudgexv
5. RebirthofLegend
6. Bloodyc0bbler
7. Incognito
8. Amber[Light]
9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- becoming suspiciously more red.. in Chez's terms, he's brown
10. L
11. Tricode
12. Vivi57 <-- We all know he's red now.
13. Infundibulum
14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red
15. Scamp
16. Shikyo <--10% red
17. Caller
18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability
19. Redtooth <-- not blue
20. Heavonearth <-- not red
21. Chezinu


Something that surely must be seen
we don't know if HeavonEarth is green
motbob is still alive!
mafia will thrive
we need the town to be more keen

3/4 mafia correct with the last one labeled as blue. Very impressive. Too bad you changed your mind on some of these reads.



Oh yeh..I'm well aware, and hence my recent post that I will be using my own feelings more instead of relying on the town from now on.. and PM's.. other people just seem to distract me from my own well-done analytical power.

I am very much in approval of a clue-less game.. the clues just distract me, and I have no idea how to manage them together... but behavioral (or grammatical as I call it) seems to be something I'm good at (though I can't do it for shit in person.....)
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 07 2009 21:19 GMT
#1369
On November 08 2009 06:08 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 06:07 L wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:41 SugiuraMidori wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first.


He also uber lynched Chez...

Yeah, he didn't know his vote would count for 2 because of how the voting worked the day before, and he couldn't really go back and change it without dropping huge hints as to who he was.

We really weren't happy with that, but oh well.

It didn't matter though. Chez still had the tiebreaker even if Pyrr had only used 1 vote.


You know very well how early votes affect the outcome, and how hard it is for mafia to influence votes nearer to the end. It mattered plenty.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
November 07 2009 21:29 GMT
#1370
On November 08 2009 06:11 SugiuraMidori wrote:
I am very much in approval of a clue-less game.. the clues just distract me, and I have no idea how to manage them together... but behavioral (or grammatical as I call it) seems to be something I'm good at (though I can't do it for shit in person.....)


I definitely missed clues, this game. I admit sometimes they are distracting and can lead you down totally wrong paths, but they also generate a lot of discussion that can be useful for behavior analysis. Especially early, when there's not much else to discuss, clues always make a good conversation topic. You can often read a lot into why certain people are debating or supporting a certain intepretation of a clue (or whether something is a clue at all), or even ignoring clues altogether.

In addition, if you have good clue analysts in the game like Camlito or MTF, you can find people based on clues alone. As long as the clue-maker doesn't make the clues extremely convoluted or counter-intuitive, of course. Besides, I think they're fun and make Day posts a lot more interesting.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 07 2009 21:31 GMT
#1371
On November 08 2009 06:19 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 06:08 Qatol wrote:
On November 08 2009 06:07 L wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:41 SugiuraMidori wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first.


He also uber lynched Chez...

Yeah, he didn't know his vote would count for 2 because of how the voting worked the day before, and he couldn't really go back and change it without dropping huge hints as to who he was.

We really weren't happy with that, but oh well.

It didn't matter though. Chez still had the tiebreaker even if Pyrr had only used 1 vote.


You know very well how early votes affect the outcome, and how hard it is for mafia to influence votes nearer to the end. It mattered plenty.

I don't know how much it mattered that pyrr used an extra vote in the lynch unless people were JUST looking at numbers and not WHO was voting or WHY Chezinu was being voted for..... I still don't think this misunderstanding had a huge effect on the game.
Uff Da
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 07 2009 21:47 GMT
#1372
On November 08 2009 06:31 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 06:19 L wrote:
On November 08 2009 06:08 Qatol wrote:
On November 08 2009 06:07 L wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:41 SugiuraMidori wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first.


He also uber lynched Chez...

Yeah, he didn't know his vote would count for 2 because of how the voting worked the day before, and he couldn't really go back and change it without dropping huge hints as to who he was.

We really weren't happy with that, but oh well.

It didn't matter though. Chez still had the tiebreaker even if Pyrr had only used 1 vote.


You know very well how early votes affect the outcome, and how hard it is for mafia to influence votes nearer to the end. It mattered plenty.

I don't know how much it mattered that pyrr used an extra vote in the lynch unless people were JUST looking at numbers and not WHO was voting or WHY Chezinu was being voted for..... I still don't think this misunderstanding had a huge effect on the game.

People love numbers, bro.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 07 2009 22:39 GMT
#1373
On November 08 2009 06:47 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 06:31 Qatol wrote:
On November 08 2009 06:19 L wrote:
On November 08 2009 06:08 Qatol wrote:
On November 08 2009 06:07 L wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:41 SugiuraMidori wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first.


He also uber lynched Chez...

Yeah, he didn't know his vote would count for 2 because of how the voting worked the day before, and he couldn't really go back and change it without dropping huge hints as to who he was.

We really weren't happy with that, but oh well.

It didn't matter though. Chez still had the tiebreaker even if Pyrr had only used 1 vote.


You know very well how early votes affect the outcome, and how hard it is for mafia to influence votes nearer to the end. It mattered plenty.

I don't know how much it mattered that pyrr used an extra vote in the lynch unless people were JUST looking at numbers and not WHO was voting or WHY Chezinu was being voted for..... I still don't think this misunderstanding had a huge effect on the game.

People love numbers, bro.


75% chance of truth, statistically speaking of course.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
November 07 2009 23:18 GMT
#1374
ha gg guys

i was afraid to pursue my suspicions of L too far - partly out of blueness and partly cause there was always the nagging possibility that he really was innocent and i would out myself for nothing. it seemed like nobody really paid that much attention to what me/scamp had to say tho :s
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 07 2009 23:37 GMT
#1375
Wow Pyrr was Mafia the whole time? I didn't see that coming.
Cheese is good for you!
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
November 07 2009 23:42 GMT
#1376
On November 08 2009 08:37 Scamp wrote:
Wow Pyrr was Mafia the whole time? I didn't see that coming.


I did... lol
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 08 2009 02:42 GMT
#1377
All I have to say is:

On October 21 2009 13:58 Caller wrote:
If elected I will lynch Pyrrhuloxia


see what you kids did
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 08 2009 02:43 GMT
#1378
Dying to confirm dt sanity must have made L's day. Mods rushing day however, totally made it impossible for me to share my final findings. At death I hadn't confirmed L as red, but was pretty sure it was him over shikyo, although I would have opted to double lynch both of them (afk dt would die, and then gf would die so fair tradeoff).

I will admit I played like a tard most of this game (didn't even realize there were no clues till after game start, FML) and just figured I'd have fun with it.

Next clueless game I shall deff try harder from the getgo as well, in the span of a day I was able to narrow down a red (happened to be gf) to one of two players. Figuring I can do better if I try all game.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 08 2009 03:06 GMT
#1379
If everyone can forward me any useful pm's it will aid greatly in forming up a strong overall analysis. Should be up within 2 days or so.
Liquipedia
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 08 2009 03:57 GMT
#1380
On November 08 2009 12:06 Ver wrote:
If everyone can forward me any useful pm's it will aid greatly in forming up a strong overall analysis. Should be up within 2 days or so.

-after me and Ace's deaths:
Original Message:-Ace
most likely lol. I was just talking to Inf and it's so sad. I think ppl are more interested in trying to get me killed than playing the game :/

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:-Caller
lololol town fail?
pyrr clearly scum?

sup
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
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