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On November 06 2009 00:30 L wrote: I find it pretty hilarious that everyone assumes that infund somehow claimed to me, or that scamp would give me information when it was pretty obvious that both of them thought I was the anti-christ. Especially after I told people to not claim to me given that I wasn't confirmed. I mean, I've been waiting to see if anyone would say anything, but no one has. The sad part is that no one told me anything, but conjecture and lynching our blues seems to be the best plan sugi can put forward. I also find it hilarious that despite the only piece of evidence being brought up against me, the fact that RoL was known to me, hasn't been questioned given the fact that pyrr himself at the top of the page basically admits that a bunch of people knew, especially given the fact that between RoL's claim and sugi's list, he was known to everyone from yesterday forward. I mean, if the only plan we can come up with is 'murder all our blues' and no one in the town even bothers questions that, something is deeply wrong. I'll wait for you to come up with a better plan or some how magically help us snipe a red. Until then we have to do some hardcore researching and pick our best options. Looking at how the game is and who is left. There must be a reason Mafia didn't give up even though they have 1kp left. I think that is because they have a really good player (most likely a vet, could be wrong) as their GF who has eluded us and made us believe he is friend instead of foe. Looking at who is left alive, votes placed, and some of my knowledge contributed with past posts of other players knowledge. I think we can have better attempts on hitting red. Btw L your defense is kinda poor. You are claimed to be a much better player and yet you haven't followed any of the plans (if you are vet). You haven't even voted or accused any of our dead mafia's (as far as I have read, I am still looking at past posts). You could of gotten Shikyo killed last vote, but in the end left him alive (if he had turned up red/gf it would have saved us trouble and would have averted eyes from you, instead now we are in the dilemma of seeing if you or Shikyo are lying (I am leaning to believe you are) and by changing your vote from Shikyo you might have gathered more time for you and the last red to operate a bit longer (if in fact you are the G/F). | ||
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On November 06 2009 02:23 L wrote: I do have a plan for going forward, but I wanted to go back and check all of the voting lists and information when I wasn't angry to put it together. It specifically has to do with not the identity of the godfather, but of the last non-GF mafia and that's the only part I haven't worked out. You're right that there has to be a reason the mafia are still in the game, since after Chez died, it would seem that they would conceed. So the idea is that they have to have some form of Ace in the hole. At the time that Chez died, infund and scamp were trying to get me killed, so L as a trump during that time period would have been a pretty shitty one. Its very odd, however, that after checking pretty much everyone in the game, no one's popped up as mafia. Amber's begging to be checked, so he's pretty much gf or bodyguard and very unlikely to be the last non-gf mafia. Motbob's said nothing pretty much all game which makes him potentially mafia, but frankly he was pretty heavily accused early on and nothing came of it. I wanted to go back and see where that would lead, tbh, to see exactly what motbob's been doing and such, but I'm going to have to present what I've got thusfar: The only rational explanation for this that I can think of is that one of the DTs isn't one. It strikes me as a bit crazy that we would have a hatter, THREE dts, 2 medics, a vet, and potentially a vig or something in pyrr or motbob, but that's unlikely. If that's the case, then either shikyo's or sugi's 'checks' aren't actually checks, but substitutions. Since shikyo's checks are all pretty much confirmed besides me, and since I know his check on me is accurate, it seems unlikely to me that he would be the GF. He doesn't have an out and he's slated to die soon. Once he dies, if he's the GF, his non-GF mafia is dead within 2 days as the weight of checks crushes his team. If shikyo is mafia, they would have conceeded. That is why I didn't want to have him killed yesterday. That leaves sugi, who until today I thought was 100% confirmed, but now I discover she isn't. The plans I've set up to get the detectives confirmed so that we could get everyone credibly checked was ruined not by me, but by sugi. We wanted to crosscheck her and shikyo to see who was lying, but she chickened out. She blames it on rage. RoL's death was precipitated in part due to her bungling of her list. She blames it on me. Additionally she's been trying to kill off shikyo who's most likely a goddam DT instead of using our plan to check him. And she had cobbler killed after convincing him to suicide himself in PMs, as far as I can tell. As soon as shikyo dies, none of her checks can be verified as well. If i die and flip blue, sugi already has an excuse built in: it was shikyo. If shikyo dies and flips blue, she can claim amber, pyrr or any of the greens. Regardless of what happens, she can, and has been, accusing people that we've DT checked and then tries to get them killed. It seems the only possible reason that mafia are still in the game is that sugi is the GF. You're plan is full of shit or in other words you have no plan! You went from Shikyo to Midori who have in the most part shown me good proof that she is dt. You are now jumping from Shikyo to Midori. I don't think so. You just let your identity truly be shown. there is a reason why i think mafia hasn't hit you and I don't think it's because you're a vet. It's cause you are definitely the G/F Please everyone, for the sake of the town and winning this game. Vote L. (BTW Motbob was the second to vote Chez to be lynched, not really bright for a mafia team to help with a lynch like that) Sugi has gotten i believe vivi, redtooth, mine, and others correct. This is your weakest persuasion yet. | ||
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On November 06 2009 06:31 L wrote: You didn't bother reading her gigantic cry "i want to die" post above? I didn't jump from shikyo to midori at all. I've been defending shikyo the entire game against midori of all people. I saved him from dying. We don't know if anything that sugi has 'checked' is correct. The default is green, and we knew most of the blues. The fact that we have almost nothing left to check and we still haven't found any reds is pretty telling that something is wrong. Would be very interesting if you were the covert green, but I rather suspect redtooth over you. At one point you were voting to lynch Shikyo, how can you say you were trying to defend shikyo the entire game? | ||
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On November 06 2009 06:31 L wrote: You didn't bother reading her gigantic cry "i want to die" post above? I didn't jump from shikyo to midori at all. I've been defending shikyo the entire game against midori of all people. I saved him from dying. We don't know if anything that sugi has 'checked' is correct. The default is green, and we knew most of the blues. The fact that we have almost nothing left to check and we still haven't found any reds is pretty telling that something is wrong. Would be very interesting if you were the covert green, but I rather suspect redtooth over you. What makes this the most difficult is that you had this circle and no matter what happens it seems like this circle you guys created decided to tell everyone everything. (Basically it seems like people fucked up the circle to where a good thing for the town went bad) The problem is you all can throw this (oh we had this circle and x knew y) there is something wrong with what everyone has done so far in this game (including midori) but because of this circle that you all created and decided to blab to much to each other (whether you did or not, can only be believed after the game is over, i am not trying to point fingers at who blabbed what out when they shouldn't have. My only point is the circle you were in screwed up and mafia took advantage of it) So we come to this problem, who to believe becomes difficult cause you all seem to share for the most part the same information. So in your final hours (unless you can really prove someone is mafia or can give us more comfort in believing you are not red) i believe you should do what ever you can to help the town (if you are townie) because so far you are still a mafia candidate. Though if you are right in your assumption that would explain redtooth (which i actually hope you are wrong so the town can just go win this) Now to add this. If midori was truly mafia (including redtooth) does everyone else truly believe they could be so determined in this game that they both believe they could win this with 1 kp when with this lynch or even after this we will get at least one of them, and then eventually get the last? Are these last two players in your opinion considered to be skilled enough to hide and hurt the town as much as they have? (basically would you considered them a vet that would balance the mafia team out if the game did have some type of balance system going on.) | ||
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On November 06 2009 16:28 Ace wrote: thx for the shoutout. Nice to know even after I'm dead my influence still makes people rage Ever since our first little quarrel i have come to learn to enjoy your influence on others. | ||
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On November 07 2009 05:35 Qatol wrote: Correct. GF can show up as Pink Elephant if he feels like it. Drat, i hope GF didn't ask to show up like that. We will never be able to find him in that case! | ||
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On November 07 2009 12:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I have wanted to say this for so long. You and Shikyo both knew my role, and I knew one of you was mafia. Also how the fuck did two people die tonight? That doens't make sense. Edit: Modkill lawl I am dumb. I enjoyed seeing both deaths. | ||
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On November 07 2009 14:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: You forgot to end your quote, so your silly! ANYWAY GUYZ, LEZ FIND DAT LAST MAFIA. Do it for RoL! Shouldn't be to hard. Almost everyone but 2 people have been checked (with the exception of pyrr) | ||
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On November 07 2009 15:39 SugiuraMidori wrote: We now know that all my checks are fine.. so the only people yet to be cleared are: One of these is red:: Amber, motbob, and Pyrr.. Blue:: Shikyo and I are the last DT's Green:: Vivi and Tricode Shikyo-- check motbob, I'm checking Amber.. if neither of us return a red we can lynch Pyrr and be over and gg with it. Unless one of the three wants to gg it now? So no matter what we either get the last mafia, or we get all the townies and know who the last Mafia is. This is a gg IMO | ||
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On November 08 2009 15:24 SugiuraMidori wrote: The final bits I had with Tricode... + Show Spoiler + Ah. I was wondering about pyrr. Mostly cause he still has x2 voting power. It was actually worrying me =\ cause of some of the inactivity and abstains. So hopefully Pyrr knows he is caught and everyone votes for him quickly so if some how some go MIA at least 2 of us is needed to vote before him to beat his voting power. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: um basically if I came up red you guessed your DT status wrong. Or you are mafia, which would be pretty funny ====== um... if I were mafia... I would certainly gg ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Well I got your redness in check anyhow, and Tricode knows ;P Why not just gg it anyhow? L was your trump card... ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Shikyo is gone. He hasn't been on the site in a while. I dunno if that will affect who you check or not but I'm just saying. ========================================= ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Yeah. So what happened during your bluff to motbob? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I sure hope he does, just to be 100% sure... ----------------------------------------- Original Message: It would be hilarious if Shikyo just decided to come back for a bit, saw my pms. Checked Motbob real quick and told me. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Amber has come back as Blue BG... I just accused motbob that he came back red in a pm so we'll see what he says to that... it can be the other check if Shikyo is vacant... So don't let him know I checked Amber and not him.. see if he panics and gives in, if not we lynch Pyrr ^_^ We have the cat in the bag, fat lady is singing, etc. As soon as night falls, paste this to town, if no gg happens from Pyrr/motbob. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I honestly believe he is G/f especially with the crap he just posted about you. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Forgot an instance.. L is regular mafia and Shikyo is GF, will happen if Amber is blue and motbob is green/blue. Since I don't have the extra night to check L too, you'll have to get the town to look into this possibility, I don't know how to check for it really.. so GL ;P ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Motbob was the second to vote Chez to die btw. I don't think he is red. Though i guess there could be a possibility but i will put it in my doubts for now. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: So here is how it goes.. I will be checking Amber to see if just a blue BG or turns red. Shikyo shall hopefully check on motbob and tell you, if that doesn't happen... he has a good chance of being GF. Logic stuffs:: First bit assumes L isn't GF.. poor assumption but it must be made. [[ If Amber turns up red, than no matter what Shikyo says that motbob is, won't really matter too much since you'll all be looking for the GF anyhow. If Amber turns up blue, he's innocent.. Shikyo can turn motbob as red meaning two things: if after lynch he isn't, Shikyo was GF, else Shikyo is legit DT. -If on the last one, Shikyo is legit DT, than any of the Greens I have checked can be GF, including Pyrr. ]] Now assuming that L is GF, then either I will flip you a red from Amber or Shikyo will flip one for motbob or if neither of us give you a red, then Pyrr is the final mafia. Paste this in full to town after I die and town should have >60% chance at win. Also found an old PM from Tricode mentioning that we need to keep an eye on Pyrr. The reasons for being so suspicious for Shikyo near the end, he made a big deal earlier on about Chez, Pyrr, and L being innocent xD Thank you ^_^ we made a good team. | ||
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