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The remaining Ace/Pyrr will certainly be DT checked as well. And receive back Pardoner/Mayor.Awesome. | ||
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On October 25 2009 05:47 Ace wrote: ...wow If any of the BGs are green neither me or Pyrr can be killed, hence why it's all or nothing Medics have saved players plenty of times from being hit Unless one of you are mafia. Again, that's important. If you're mafia, this is a fantastic play for you; looks town positive, gives you the power to knock off pyrr and aids your bluesnipe. I still don't see why the threat of a second party knowing the BG identities/medic protection isn't enough in and of itself to prevent mafia from going balls in tonight. Seems you're dead set on believing mafia would trade half of their killing power to kill you, which I just don't believe warrants all of the risks this brings in. | ||
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On October 25 2009 06:59 Ace wrote: Subbing in only one BG makes no sense as they can't kill either of us until they kill the legit BG. Why would Mafia want to waste time? It's not half their killing power if no one finds out who did it and that's what I'm trying to convey. They switch both BGs, kill myself and Pyrr and no one knows who did it. We'd lose Mayor and Pardoner with no leads. Thats what I'm trying to avoid. I'm asking for medic protection because the possibility of it happening is very high. 1) why would they need to hurry up 2) why would no one know if pyrr discloses to a non-you person? I mean, I know its hard to read my posts because they have more than six letters in them, but I've gone over all of this shit before. But you know that, don't you buttercup. | ||
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can you tell us more about the behavioral clues without giving us names? or would it be too obvious? | ||
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In retrospect your method turned out to be the best choice since it obviously had an effect on mafia's blueradar, but it was also very risky. | ||
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On October 25 2009 13:01 Ace wrote: Jeezus Shikyo and RoL you guys are terrible. THINK. You just said yourselves I wouldn't need the BG lists because any other 2 random people would have done fine right? correct The Mafia definitely couldn't kill Pyrr + 2 randoms if he announced them publicly right? correct So what would be the only point of me wanting the Bodyguard lists? hmmm lets see...um I'm a DT and I can check them both to make sure they flip "blue". Then I'd just compare them with the 3rd person or a Vet RC and see if they flip "blue" also or flip any other color. If the Mafia killed the 3rd person I'd have my confirmed shot on Night 1, a lynch candidate on Night 2 to test and both bodyguards already lined up. In 1 Night I'd have 4 possible people to check my sanity on, 2 of them being very likely to be Mafia since the biggest power play (you know, the one no one else mentioned) was them subbing both bodyguards. However despite the fact that if I was Mafia I'd never even want the town to be highly aware of the sub, you guys think I'm suspect because I pardoned someone you all have literally no clue about and wanted to lynch. Think beyond your ass for a second. I could have easily said nothing, asked my supposed Mafia buddies to sub in the BGs, snipe Pyrr and there would be no way to trace it to me because technically I'd never ever have known who the BGs were anyway. Why oh fucking why would I go through all this trouble to make the town aware if I were Mafia? Different game, same fucking idiots. /facepalm Yeah, I basically prompted you to roleclaim before the night ended so we could make a move, but you didn't. The wine in front of me defense and the after-the-fact roleclaim look pretty bad. You could have made a perfectly fine pitch by stating you were a DT and giving us the details beforehand, yet you didn't. I really don't get this. | ||
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On October 25 2009 14:20 Ace wrote: look at the voting thread L O L Quite understandable granted your flip floppery. I personally understand your retarded way of going from point A to B, but don't expect vivi to. | ||
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Mafia Bodyguards, with the exception of the Godfather, show up as Mafia to Rolechecks and do not protect an innocent Mayor. as was pointed out by RoL. If he had read the text he pointed to, he would know this. But here's the problem. Ace wasn't told the bodyguard names by pyrr as far as we can tell, so how would he know that they're both blue? The answer is fairly obvious: he knows how many people were subbed in. How? Well, that's pretty obvious, isn't it? His check is on someone random and he is preventing us from going ahead with our day 1 plan to have a confirmed check, which he follows up by asking for bodyguard protection despite stating that the bodyguards are innocent. What have we learned here: ace is mafia, and both bodyguards are innocent. Alternate version: Ace doesn't FUCKING READ THE GODDAM RULES AND IS PLAYING LIKE A BUCKET OF ASSBALLS. :3 | ||
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Your first section referring to me does NOTHING to deal with my accusation regarding how you were talking. Take a step back and read your own goddam posts. Next: You mean you should go re-read Mafia 8 to see how Ace deals with DTs that can't be confirmed or DTs that accuse people without the ability to be proven. Both of which have already been bypassed this game. Ding-Dong is anyone home over there? Go read your posts in mafia 8; if you cared about checking Nemy's role we could have lynched a target that he checked much like we're going to be forced to this game if we don't kill you. But you didn't. More to the point, now we have DTs that take 2-3 days to check at the cost of a lynch too and its LESS suspect for you to claim? Okay. Not like you can't just claim you saw whatever, see the lynch then go "OH SORRY GUYS, I WASNT A PROPER DT, LETS TRY AGAIN". Ace rule on people who claim DT early: kill them. I'm sorry but I rather think you're on the mark here. The alternative is we potentially let a mafia member in office decide 3 of our lynches and pardon the fourth before lolling your way to an assured victory unless we hit EVERY. OTHER. LYNCH. Sorry kid, you ran out of juice this game. I'm more disappointed than anything else. You're contradicting yourself left and right and barely putting together a stable plan while assraping the plans we did have up and agreed on. What's more, you refuse to let us proceed with them because you're holding the pardon bat over our heads. Am I to assume that's pro-townie play? Seriously. | ||
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On October 26 2009 11:12 dreamflower wrote: Sorry, I'm not thinking clearly at all. Please completely disregard the part about checking DT sanity in my post, considering the DTs can't exactly check someone's role once they're dead. I guess that'll have to be left until the next Night, if at all. The part about Vivi and Chezinu acting suspicious still holds, though, so one of them could be the lynch for Day Three. Why are you posting so much this game? | ||
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On October 26 2009 11:27 Ace wrote: BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LYNChING PEOPLE JUST TO CONFIRM DTs. Get this through your thick fucking skull. It's not going to happen. We were never lynching people just to confirm DTs. The Idea was we'd choose during the night so that the DT could check prior to the day we lynch so we save a day/night cycle. Do you even read shit? | ||
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