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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 23 2009 04:13 GMT
#501
On October 23 2009 13:10 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 12:48 Incognito wrote:
On October 23 2009 12:46 Qatol wrote:
On October 23 2009 12:44 Ace wrote:
On October 23 2009 11:02 Qatol wrote:
Ummm nobody has PMed me yet.... I assume Pyrr is still lynching motbob? Ace are you pardoning? Mafia are you making anyone a bodyguard?


assuming I'm not too late (I just started reading the thread) I pardon anyone who's going to be lynched today anyway. We don't have anything to go on and the DTs cant check them yet.

Nope you aren't too late at all. Pyrr still hasn't told us who he was lynching. Also, we STILL haven't heard from the mafia.......


Maybe something you don't want to say?

Are you sure about that?


Well I dont think it should be said regardless.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 23 2009 04:14 GMT
#502
I'm now glad I voted for Ace.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 23 2009 04:17 GMT
#503
On October 23 2009 13:14 L wrote:
I'm now glad I voted for Ace.


I dont see it.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 23 2009 04:50 GMT
#504
Ok I just had a post but I'll wait a bit before unveiling it. However I have one thing to ask: Medics protect myself and Pyrr tonight.

Hold on I know you think I'm crazy. But there is a reason and HOPEFULLY I'm misreading the rules.

There are 2 BGs according the OP. Mafia can sub in their members for BGs. If they subbed in 2 members tonight both myself and Pyrr would be at risk of dying immediately. Pyrr can't trust me right now so he has no incentive to give me their names and I also can't confirm anything about him. The only way to avoid the death of both of us with 0 trace is for the Medics to prot us for the first night so if the Mafia do sub in BGs they are boned and I can continue with my plan.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 23 2009 04:52 GMT
#505
Basically what I'm saying is Pyrr isn't a guaranteed innocent and we can both possibly die. Even if Pyrr is innocent he can't just spill the BGs names because he wouldn't know if they were replaced or not hence he wouldn't want to put them at risk. So the Mafia have/had a really good power play for the first night because they could have possibly killed us both with no trace. If a Medic protects us though, or one of us happens to be a Vet they wouldn't be able to flawlessly execute this plan.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
October 23 2009 04:53 GMT
#506
lol, so HeavOnEarth is banned for 2 weeks.

I guess a pardon could benefit us - we avoid a mislynch, but I dunno. I think we could still find a good lynch candidate.

Incognito - why do you NOT want to lynch motbob? Why waste the pardon right now?

(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 23 2009 04:59 GMT
#507
On October 23 2009 13:53 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
lol, so HeavOnEarth is banned for 2 weeks.

I guess a pardon could benefit us - we avoid a mislynch, but I dunno. I think we could still find a good lynch candidate.

Incognito - why do you NOT want to lynch motbob? Why waste the pardon right now?



Lol srsly? Im not the pardoner k.

So if HeavOnEarth is banned why dont we just flip him now? Since we are going to pardon anyway.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 23 2009 04:59 GMT
#508
On October 23 2009 13:50 Ace wrote:
Ok I just had a post but I'll wait a bit before unveiling it. However I have one thing to ask: Medics protect myself and Pyrr tonight.

Hold on I know you think I'm crazy. But there is a reason and HOPEFULLY I'm misreading the rules.

There are 2 BGs according the OP. Mafia can sub in their members for BGs. If they subbed in 2 members tonight both myself and Pyrr would be at risk of dying immediately. Pyrr can't trust me right now so he has no incentive to give me their names and I also can't confirm anything about him. The only way to avoid the death of both of us with 0 trace is for the Medics to prot us for the first night so if the Mafia do sub in BGs they are boned and I can continue with my plan.


You're not misreading the rules.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 23 2009 05:03 GMT
#509
The alternative is that pyrr can tell, or threaten to tell someone. If mafia go balls deep, they lose half their members and the game. in the event that pyrr tells a mafia member who the bgs are, when they die early, he can just tell us who he told and we have a kill right there.

Frankly, i'd rather not die on day 1-2 again, so i'm going to have to push the plan wherein i might get some sweet nursings instead of the one where my death clue involves impotence.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 23 2009 05:06 GMT
#510
On October 23 2009 14:03 L wrote:
The alternative is that pyrr can tell, or threaten to tell someone. If mafia go balls deep, they lose half their members and the game. in the event that pyrr tells a mafia member who the bgs are, when they die early, he can just tell us who he told and we have a kill right there.

Frankly, i'd rather not die on day 1-2 again, so i'm going to have to push the plan wherein i might get some sweet nursings instead of the one where my death clue involves impotence.


What if he tells a mafia member and both BGs are mafia?
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 23 2009 05:14 GMT
#511
I believe as good man L tried to state, was that he mention the name of the person of the person he gave the bgs too and sealed anothers fate. Push comes to shove, we get at least one mafia to love.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 23 2009 05:34 GMT
#512
On October 23 2009 14:03 L wrote:
The alternative is that pyrr can tell, or threaten to tell someone. If mafia go balls deep, they lose half their members and the game. in the event that pyrr tells a mafia member who the bgs are, when they die early, he can just tell us who he told and we have a kill right there.

Frankly, i'd rather not die on day 1-2 again, so i'm going to have to push the plan wherein i might get some sweet nursings instead of the one where my death clue involves impotence.


But Pyrr can also be Mafia which is the only snag :/

Hence on Night 1 we have medics prot so just in case they pull a switch they are boned.

If you really want to risk Pyrr releasing the names of the BGs to an outsider that assumes he has to be innocent - hence he can tell an innocent person fake BG names, or he can just keep it within the Mafia, or just give the list to the last remaining Mafia person.

If neither of us die Night 1 whether they switched or not will become irrelevant once I can post the next part of my plan.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 23 2009 05:35 GMT
#513
On October 23 2009 14:06 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 14:03 L wrote:
The alternative is that pyrr can tell, or threaten to tell someone. If mafia go balls deep, they lose half their members and the game. in the event that pyrr tells a mafia member who the bgs are, when they die early, he can just tell us who he told and we have a kill right there.

Frankly, i'd rather not die on day 1-2 again, so i'm going to have to push the plan wherein i might get some sweet nursings instead of the one where my death clue involves impotence.


What if he tells a mafia member and both BGs are mafia?


this too. Ah well this little BG replacement rule has kept me interested in the game so I guess it's a good thing.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
October 23 2009 05:39 GMT
#514
On October 23 2009 13:59 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 13:53 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
lol, so HeavOnEarth is banned for 2 weeks.

I guess a pardon could benefit us - we avoid a mislynch, but I dunno. I think we could still find a good lynch candidate.

Incognito - why do you NOT want to lynch motbob? Why waste the pardon right now?



Lol srsly? Im not the pardoner k.

So if HeavOnEarth is banned why dont we just flip him now? Since we are going to pardon anyway.



Wow... my bad. I'm so out of it - very sleep deprived and just skimmed the thread.

-_-

Going to re-read now again.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 23 2009 05:44 GMT
#515
On October 23 2009 14:35 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 14:06 Incognito wrote:
On October 23 2009 14:03 L wrote:
The alternative is that pyrr can tell, or threaten to tell someone. If mafia go balls deep, they lose half their members and the game. in the event that pyrr tells a mafia member who the bgs are, when they die early, he can just tell us who he told and we have a kill right there.

Frankly, i'd rather not die on day 1-2 again, so i'm going to have to push the plan wherein i might get some sweet nursings instead of the one where my death clue involves impotence.


What if he tells a mafia member and both BGs are mafia?


this too. Ah well this little BG replacement rule has kept me interested in the game so I guess it's a good thing.


Well what BC said is correct, He would have to announce who he gave the BG names to publically. That way if you both die we get two mafia BGs if the person he announced was innocent. If the person he passed the list to was mafia, then we only get one mafia, but its a mafia none the less. If Pyrr is mafia then if you die then Pyrr is mafia and so are the BGs. If Pyrr gave the list to a townie then thats 3 mafia gone, if he told an inno and LIED about it then thats one gone (pyrr) and if he told a fellow mafia member then thats 2 gone (pyrr + person with the list).
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 23 2009 05:46 GMT
#516
Got it. Let's go with that plan and let the medics prot whoever they want tonight. When Pyrr gets back we'll decide who he'll reveal the BG names to.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 23 2009 05:48 GMT
#517
On October 23 2009 14:34 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 14:03 L wrote:
The alternative is that pyrr can tell, or threaten to tell someone. If mafia go balls deep, they lose half their members and the game. in the event that pyrr tells a mafia member who the bgs are, when they die early, he can just tell us who he told and we have a kill right there.

Frankly, i'd rather not die on day 1-2 again, so i'm going to have to push the plan wherein i might get some sweet nursings instead of the one where my death clue involves impotence.


But Pyrr can also be Mafia which is the only snag :/

Hence on Night 1 we have medics prot so just in case they pull a switch they are boned.

If you really want to risk Pyrr releasing the names of the BGs to an outsider that assumes he has to be innocent - hence he can tell an innocent person fake BG names, or he can just keep it within the Mafia, or just give the list to the last remaining Mafia person.

If neither of us die Night 1 whether they switched or not will become irrelevant once I can post the next part of my plan.

If he's mafia and both bgs are mafia, your death is a pretty obvious sign that pyrr is mafia too.

The fact that you suggest putting medics on protected targets actually gives him an out; a medic protected him. If he wants to be really fancy, the gf can claim medic and bam, the game's fucked.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 23 2009 05:53 GMT
#518
^ So medics dont protect whoever you want. Protect not Ace or Pyrr, as stated by L. Should we begin the medic list?
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
October 23 2009 05:54 GMT
#519
I'll be going to bed shortly, so I'm guessing the night will have to be delayed until I wake up.

Just to confirm, Ace you will pardon anyone Pyrr selects as his lynch choice?
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
October 23 2009 05:58 GMT
#520
On October 23 2009 14:54 Ver wrote:
I'll be going to bed shortly, so I'm guessing the night will have to be delayed until I wake up.

Just to confirm, Ace you will pardon anyone Pyrr selects as his lynch choice?


Imo Ace shouldn't pardon HeavOnEarth if he's selected since he's banned. Would be useless to keep him around.
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