• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:21
CET 07:21
KST 15:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1815Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1080 users

[IEM Season IX] San José - Page 16

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 46 Next All
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 07 2014 03:07 GMT
#301
Sad thing is the dragon steals were the only remotely good things tsm did all series but not good enough that the live crowd could start the iconic tsm cheers because they got rekt in den teamfights...
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 07 2014 03:07 GMT
#302
--- Nuked ---
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 07 2014 03:07 GMT
#303
wait rofl they lost to jungle twisted fate
SIQ
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
December 07 2014 03:08 GMT
#304
On December 07 2014 12:07 AsnSensation wrote:
Sad thing is the dragon steals were the only remotely good things tsm did all series but not good enough that the live crowd could start the iconic tsm cheers because they got rekt in den teamfights...

I wouldn't even consider taking free drags a "good" thing. More like UoL just gifted it to them. TSM didn't really show anything resembling competence this series.
Jaedong :D
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
December 07 2014 03:08 GMT
#305
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
December 07 2014 03:09 GMT
#306
woke up to TSM losing 0-2
today is a good day.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 07 2014 03:11 GMT
#307
Burgerking got rekked by PoE really, really hard.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
December 07 2014 03:12 GMT
#308
I think we will see a poppy jungle before poppy top again
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
December 07 2014 03:15 GMT
#309
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
December 07 2014 03:23 GMT
#310
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.

zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 07 2014 03:26 GMT
#311
My only regret is JonGalt wasn't here to see the meltdown. xD
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 07 2014 03:28 GMT
#312
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 07 2014 03:31 GMT
#313
--- Nuked ---
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
December 07 2014 03:37 GMT
#314
On December 07 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.

We'll have to disagree on that. LB imo gives more pressure because of solo-kill potential and roaming. The ability to influence and pressure the map should be more valuable that Xerath who isn't as mobile.

Can't argue Bjergsen will more likely be more comfortable on Xerath though. It was one of his key champions for last NA split.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 07 2014 03:44 GMT
#315
On December 07 2014 12:37 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.

We'll have to disagree on that. LB imo gives more pressure because of solo-kill potential and roaming. The ability to influence and pressure the map should be more valuable that Xerath who isn't as mobile.

Can't argue Bjergsen will more likely be more comfortable on Xerath though. It was one of his key champions for last NA split.

TSM more used to playing with Xerath, and he fit the sort of "distanced engage" that TSM wanted to have with Rumble.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 07 2014 03:55 GMT
#316
On December 07 2014 12:44 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:37 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.

We'll have to disagree on that. LB imo gives more pressure because of solo-kill potential and roaming. The ability to influence and pressure the map should be more valuable that Xerath who isn't as mobile.

Can't argue Bjergsen will more likely be more comfortable on Xerath though. It was one of his key champions for last NA split.

TSM more used to playing with Xerath, and he fit the sort of "distanced engage" that TSM wanted to have with Rumble.

Hopefully no one is taking anything away from UoL vs TSM. As much as I would love to shit on TSM cuz TSM, they're notorious for being terrible when new major patches kick in.
liftlift > tsm
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
December 07 2014 04:45 GMT
#317
Really hope Alliance defeats C9 tomorrow, EU superiority gotta shine! :D
#1 Kloggmosexual | Gambit 4 lyfe! | DiamondGOD | #iBelieve
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 08:55:57
December 07 2014 08:55 GMT
#318
Damn I really underestimated UoL. Simply because we have only seen them so far against challenger teams and struggling Millenium where they didnt even dominate.

But they styled all over TSM even if they made quite a few bad decisions. And they showed that you can play more than just this siege/poke stuff.
Off-season = best season
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
December 07 2014 10:18 GMT
#319
On December 07 2014 13:45 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Really hope Alliance defeats C9 tomorrow, EU superiority gotta shine! :D

no thanks
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
December 07 2014 10:48 GMT
#320
On December 07 2014 12:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:44 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:37 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.

We'll have to disagree on that. LB imo gives more pressure because of solo-kill potential and roaming. The ability to influence and pressure the map should be more valuable that Xerath who isn't as mobile.

Can't argue Bjergsen will more likely be more comfortable on Xerath though. It was one of his key champions for last NA split.

TSM more used to playing with Xerath, and he fit the sort of "distanced engage" that TSM wanted to have with Rumble.

Hopefully no one is taking anything away from UoL vs TSM. As much as I would love to shit on TSM cuz TSM, they're notorious for being terrible when new major patches kick in.

Describing TSM as a "terrible" team has never been incorrect though.

Maybe they were strong in S1 or something, I don't know since I wasn't playing back then, but they have been absolutely irrelevant on the international scene for a long while now (just like any EU or NA team tho).

I'm not surprised that UoL can beat TSM because I view this IEM and western LoL in general as the bronze league of competitive LoL : everything can happen and anyone can win because every team is utterly incompetent.
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 6h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 312
ZergMaN 161
Hyun 111
PianO 55
Noble 21
Icarus 12
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm170
febbydoto116
League of Legends
C9.Mang0497
Super Smash Bros
Westballz63
Other Games
Mew2King29
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1065
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 35
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 44
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra5041
Upcoming Events
OSC
1d 6h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 20h
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.