• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:56
CEST 19:56
KST 02:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen Gypsy to Korea How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1891 users

[IEM Season IX] San José - Page 16

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 46 Next All
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 07 2014 03:07 GMT
#301
Sad thing is the dragon steals were the only remotely good things tsm did all series but not good enough that the live crowd could start the iconic tsm cheers because they got rekt in den teamfights...
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 07 2014 03:07 GMT
#302
--- Nuked ---
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 07 2014 03:07 GMT
#303
wait rofl they lost to jungle twisted fate
SIQ
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
December 07 2014 03:08 GMT
#304
On December 07 2014 12:07 AsnSensation wrote:
Sad thing is the dragon steals were the only remotely good things tsm did all series but not good enough that the live crowd could start the iconic tsm cheers because they got rekt in den teamfights...

I wouldn't even consider taking free drags a "good" thing. More like UoL just gifted it to them. TSM didn't really show anything resembling competence this series.
Jaedong :D
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
December 07 2014 03:08 GMT
#305
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
December 07 2014 03:09 GMT
#306
woke up to TSM losing 0-2
today is a good day.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 07 2014 03:11 GMT
#307
Burgerking got rekked by PoE really, really hard.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
December 07 2014 03:12 GMT
#308
I think we will see a poppy jungle before poppy top again
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
December 07 2014 03:15 GMT
#309
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
December 07 2014 03:23 GMT
#310
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.

zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 07 2014 03:26 GMT
#311
My only regret is JonGalt wasn't here to see the meltdown. xD
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 07 2014 03:28 GMT
#312
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 07 2014 03:31 GMT
#313
--- Nuked ---
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
December 07 2014 03:37 GMT
#314
On December 07 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.

We'll have to disagree on that. LB imo gives more pressure because of solo-kill potential and roaming. The ability to influence and pressure the map should be more valuable that Xerath who isn't as mobile.

Can't argue Bjergsen will more likely be more comfortable on Xerath though. It was one of his key champions for last NA split.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 07 2014 03:44 GMT
#315
On December 07 2014 12:37 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.

We'll have to disagree on that. LB imo gives more pressure because of solo-kill potential and roaming. The ability to influence and pressure the map should be more valuable that Xerath who isn't as mobile.

Can't argue Bjergsen will more likely be more comfortable on Xerath though. It was one of his key champions for last NA split.

TSM more used to playing with Xerath, and he fit the sort of "distanced engage" that TSM wanted to have with Rumble.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 07 2014 03:55 GMT
#316
On December 07 2014 12:44 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:37 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.

We'll have to disagree on that. LB imo gives more pressure because of solo-kill potential and roaming. The ability to influence and pressure the map should be more valuable that Xerath who isn't as mobile.

Can't argue Bjergsen will more likely be more comfortable on Xerath though. It was one of his key champions for last NA split.

TSM more used to playing with Xerath, and he fit the sort of "distanced engage" that TSM wanted to have with Rumble.

Hopefully no one is taking anything away from UoL vs TSM. As much as I would love to shit on TSM cuz TSM, they're notorious for being terrible when new major patches kick in.
liftlift > tsm
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
December 07 2014 04:45 GMT
#317
Really hope Alliance defeats C9 tomorrow, EU superiority gotta shine! :D
#1 Kloggmosexual | Gambit 4 lyfe! | DiamondGOD | #iBelieve
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 08:55:57
December 07 2014 08:55 GMT
#318
Damn I really underestimated UoL. Simply because we have only seen them so far against challenger teams and struggling Millenium where they didnt even dominate.

But they styled all over TSM even if they made quite a few bad decisions. And they showed that you can play more than just this siege/poke stuff.
Off-season = best season
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
December 07 2014 10:18 GMT
#319
On December 07 2014 13:45 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Really hope Alliance defeats C9 tomorrow, EU superiority gotta shine! :D

no thanks
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
December 07 2014 10:48 GMT
#320
On December 07 2014 12:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 12:44 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:37 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:23 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:15 Prog wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:08 Kavas wrote:
On December 07 2014 12:01 krndandaman wrote:
lol oh god

tsm is going to get whipped by regi tonight

Whoever is in charge of their P&B needs to get whoped.

Both games UOL had P/B which gave them the initiative and advantage.

And Bjergsen needs 1000 games of solo-Q going athene's first so he knows where the item is.


Can't really blame them for the P&B in game 1, noone expected the jungle tf that tricked them into xerath.

I can respect that. But even then why would you pick Xerath and not Le Blanc into a supposed TF mid?

And first picking pantheon over gnar.



Honestly though, Xerath is about as good as LB vs TF. Plus Burgerking is more comfortable on Xerath.

We'll have to disagree on that. LB imo gives more pressure because of solo-kill potential and roaming. The ability to influence and pressure the map should be more valuable that Xerath who isn't as mobile.

Can't argue Bjergsen will more likely be more comfortable on Xerath though. It was one of his key champions for last NA split.

TSM more used to playing with Xerath, and he fit the sort of "distanced engage" that TSM wanted to have with Rumble.

Hopefully no one is taking anything away from UoL vs TSM. As much as I would love to shit on TSM cuz TSM, they're notorious for being terrible when new major patches kick in.

Describing TSM as a "terrible" team has never been incorrect though.

Maybe they were strong in S1 or something, I don't know since I wasn't playing back then, but they have been absolutely irrelevant on the international scene for a long while now (just like any EU or NA team tho).

I'm not surprised that UoL can beat TSM because I view this IEM and western LoL in general as the bronze league of competitive LoL : everything can happen and anyone can win because every team is utterly incompetent.
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .146
ProTech131
JuggernautJason75
Vindicta 61
BRAT_OK 60
MindelVK 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 30479
Mini 366
Soulkey 184
Dewaltoss 123
sorry 90
firebathero 84
scan(afreeca) 55
Rock 28
Shine 12
IntoTheRainbow 12
[ Show more ]
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
Dota 2
420jenkins610
monkeys_forever267
Counter-Strike
fl0m2400
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor531
Liquid`Hasu404
Other Games
Grubby1822
FrodaN1765
Beastyqt818
QueenE69
Mew2King64
Trikslyr24
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick943
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 44
• Freeedom9
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach34
• blackmanpl 18
• 80smullet 8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1764
• lizZardDota2105
Other Games
• imaqtpie757
• WagamamaTV223
• Shiphtur150
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
5m
BSL
1h 5m
RSL Revival
13h 5m
Cure vs Rogue
Maru vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
20h 5m
BSL
1d 1h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 16h
Wardi Open
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.