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orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 11:45:27
October 19 2014 11:38 GMT
#1161
On October 19 2014 20:37 Fusilero wrote:
Wonder I normally agree with you but limit over duke, rly?

Duke is really good, he is/will be top 3 next season easily.
edit: I'm retarded.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 19 2014 11:39 GMT
#1162
Acorn, ok, he's legit. Limit is ok too, that's pretty faith based but I'll balance that with my faith in Looper.

Not sure how anyone can think Dade's as good as PawN now. Consistency is a huge, glaring, issue with Dade.
Did you seriously put PawN in the same tier as Ambition? My opinion of you just dropped. :<
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
October 19 2014 11:46 GMT
#1163
On October 19 2014 20:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Acorn, ok, he's legit. Limit is ok too, that's pretty faith based but I'll balance that with my faith in Looper.

Not sure how anyone can think Dade's as good as PawN now. Consistency is a huge, glaring, issue with Dade.
Did you seriously put PawN in the same tier as Ambition? My opinion of you just dropped. :<


Actually, consistency was never dade's problem, he never goes full Hai because he shotcalls apparently (reddit is going to curse me forever) and he almost always relevant until he buys mejais.

But seriously, you know what is my problem with PawN?
You can't suddenly develop from Nidalee/Orianna/Jayce player to this untouchable monster and stay on same level, we had enough Toyzes already.

LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
October 19 2014 11:52 GMT
#1164
tbh royal should just import another top laner and mid laner and they're good. Not even joking.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 19 2014 11:54 GMT
#1165
Should rewatch Dade's games against White. That was some heavy tilt imo.

vs TSM wins: Jayce, Fizz, Yasuo (Kass loss)
vs Blue wins: Jayce, Jayce, Fizz
vs White wins: Jayce, Talon, Orianna (Fizz loss)

Group Stage: Zilean, Yasuo, Talon, Zed, Fizz, Katarina

Zero Nidalee games, he's good on poke APs, AP assassins, AD assassins. Toyz was definitely very single faceted (he only excelled at afk farm AP Mids like Ori and Karthus). PawN is not remotely the same case.
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Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
October 19 2014 11:56 GMT
#1166
That epic straight face (because of translation ofc) from Jatt, while Imp is saying he just wants to roll on the grass. Pure comedy gold.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
October 19 2014 12:07 GMT
#1167
Grats to Samsung White. This team is an Allstar calibre team in itself. The very much deserved Worlds winners!
Every Player is top3 in the world in his position and no there can´t be an argument about that! You can´t put more than 2 players above anyone on SSW!
Top. Who should be better than Looper? Flame? Perhaps, this is debatable, his lane and minion control still is uncontested and his Teamfighting carry abilities are great. But he has messy teleport and laneswap plays compared to Looper, who also doesn´t lack in any ability where Flame shines. You can also add Gogoing in the mix here, because he is extraordinary in his teamfighting play. But after that it ends. Who else? Save? The guy that didn´t show up in Spring Final, whole Summer Season and whole Worlds? ROFL Limit? Duke? Cmon be serious, those are good players but allways get on their limit, when they face top end teams. Looper is clearly a Top3 Toplaner!

Mid Faker and Dade are proven extreme high calibre and between them and Pawn it´s allways a question of day by day form. But after those? Rookie? Because he had one kinda good season, where his team got carried on Kakao´s back? After the finals he completely went missing in the Regional match vs Shield. You got to show up when it matters to be the best! Ggong? Oh boy, Shield was at absolutely no point a team, being carried by an individual performance. When they shined, they got it from their great strategical and tactical approach. And even then Ggong never ever impressed on more than one champion. One trick pony for life. Pawn, Dade and Faker are top3 midlaner in the world. Who is the best is just a question of daily form and flavor.

Jungle It´s clear that only Kakao can keep up with Dandy here. And it´s a question of personal preferance who you like more. Nothing else

ADC Again, ok Uzi is great and perhaps better than Imp. But who else? Namei, the guy that does well, when the game is only, ONLY about teamfighting in China? He might be the definition of a one dimensional player, because his strength only lies in teamfights. Yes they are important, but the game at this point needs more from a top player. Riot might change this fact, but so far they did not. Deft might be considered and perhaps it´s right. But Imp has proven to be way more solid over a longer period, where Deft allways has his ups and downs.

Support There is no question, who is the best support in the game right now.

They have a group of incredible individuals, that also work together in close to perfect harmony. And that makes this team so scary. Pawn finally got over that, what seemed to be, mental block against Dade and delivered against Blue. And when you look back and the Spring and Summer season, this was the only thing, that held them back from dominating back then. If they can keep this up is ofc another question. While we don´t know what will happen next, it´s for sure, that korea won´t take a long break like the west. So we´ll see about that soon.
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
October 19 2014 12:09 GMT
#1168
hey guys how were the games, any interesting champ selection/builds?
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
October 19 2014 12:13 GMT
#1169
On October 19 2014 21:09 ShootAnonymous wrote:
hey guys how were the games, any interesting champ selection/builds?


Rammus was played and it was Ok!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 19 2014 12:30 GMT
#1170
On October 19 2014 19:07 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 18:56 Alaric wrote:
Watching the VoDs atm since I just got up. And catchin up on LR thread( WTF YOU GUYS 700 POSTS REALLY?!).
I should rewind to watch the opening too it looks like?

WTF 700 POSTS as in you're surprised that the thread already has 700 posts or you think there should be more posts by now?

I was surprised there were 700 posts by then. It was right before game 4 apparently, and I don't remember LR moving so fast in semis and quarters despite them being arguably more hype (less one-sided).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 19 2014 12:41 GMT
#1171
I'd say Impact is the closest to Looper, will be interesting to see him Faker+him on a good team next season
Liquipedia"Expert"
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 19 2014 13:25 GMT
#1172
KeSPA domination LoL scene as well as SCII scene, very nice.
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 19 2014 13:30 GMT
#1173
On October 19 2014 21:07 TeeTS wrote:
Namei, the guy that does well, when the game is only, ONLY about teamfighting in China? He might be the definition of a one dimensional player, because his strength only lies in teamfights. Yes they are important, but the game at this point needs more from a top player.


Whoa now, this is not true. Namei choked really hard during internationals but in China, he actually is pretty top class in a lot of instances. There are his twitch/Jinx games where he basically snowballs a lane advantage into carrying games singlehandedly.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
October 19 2014 13:31 GMT
#1174
I'm a bit surprised with all the SSW hype after those finals;; I thought the way they played was rather underwhelming and it was more of SHRC letting them win than anything... especially that last game, like, SSW didn't play well at all but still just walked into the win. There's no denying they are a top team, but the finals were hardly a highlight of that. Kinda feel like they will follow the usual trend of world champs falling off in the next season.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
October 19 2014 13:44 GMT
#1175
Are you serious ? They crushed the whole tournament. Pawn dandy mata and looper all were on a whole other level. Did we watch the same event ????
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
October 19 2014 15:07 GMT
#1176
Predicted it right to be a 3-1 for white. Still wished SHRC took that 4th game, would have made it really interesting. they took chances, it didnt work
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 16:08:35
October 19 2014 16:03 GMT
#1177
wrong thread.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
October 19 2014 16:14 GMT
#1178
This is the last time we will see a korean team dominating. With no ogn winter, 1 team rule and korean pro's going to china i expect season 5 a chinese team will win.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
October 19 2014 16:24 GMT
#1179
On October 20 2014 01:14 skykh wrote:
This is the last time we will see a korean team dominating. With no ogn winter, 1 team rule and korean pro's going to china i expect season 5 a chinese team will win.


Nah, Korean top teams will be still same.
They might practice more with LPL teams though.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 19 2014 17:01 GMT
#1180
Y'all are all wrong, PawN isn't the best mid, it's ToyZ now since he un-retired. EZ.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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