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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 04 2014 07:32 GMT
#1661
uh, this comp sucks
Carrilord has arrived.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 04 2014 07:33 GMT
#1662
Lol
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
October 04 2014 07:33 GMT
#1663
Is this enough damage for blue?
@miicah88
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 04 2014 07:33 GMT
#1664
--- Nuked ---
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 04 2014 07:33 GMT
#1665
wat
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 07:34:40
October 04 2014 07:33 GMT
#1666
GRAVES!

both comps kinda suck
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
October 04 2014 07:33 GMT
#1667
oh shit graves hype
Jaedong :D
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2014 07:33 GMT
#1668
Graves Jana is really strong at level 6.
liftlift > tsm
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1669
Ooh man. C9 has a line damage comp with syndra stun, equalizer and graves + janna tornado?
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1670
Wow didn't see the Graves coming. This will be interesting
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1671
Fuck yeah graves
@miicah88
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1672
C9 vs Samsung, or how I learned to stop caring and love the Graves pick.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1673
hyphyyyyyyy new freelo pick for worlds found thank you based lemonotebook

goddamn im tired going into rants
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1674
On October 04 2014 16:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Graves Jana is really strong at level 6.


On October 04 2014 16:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Graves is really strong at level 6.


On October 04 2014 16:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Graves level 6.


He can literally make any bot lane strong at 6, he is still a pretty decent laner, just falls off a bit in fights.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 07:35:48
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1675
C9 out mid-gaming SSB so fucking hard with this comp. SSB late game scales very slightly better in lategame.
On October 04 2014 16:34 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Graves Jana is really strong at level 6.


Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Graves is really strong at level 6.


Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Graves level 6.


He can literally make any bot lane strong at 6, he is still a pretty decent laner, just falls off a bit in fights.

The difference is Janna + graves at level 6, i'm talking about dragon fight, not laning. Graves early laning actually sort of sucks if you shove him in at level 1-4, since he has no auto attack reset to cs under turret.
liftlift > tsm
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1676
On October 04 2014 16:12 ManBaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:06 BrownBear wrote:
On October 04 2014 15:58 Shikyo wrote:
Hmm now let's imagine C9 with Bjergsen as mid instead of Hai...


Lol what are you smoking because I want some.

Bjergsen would need to replace Hai's shotcalling, and oh my god does Bjergsen's shotcalling suck dick.

Hai may not be great mechanically, but like all of C9, he brings tons of intangibles.


You can't train someone to be a mechanically gifted god

You CAN train someone to become a good shotcaller

Him and Lemonnation should just become head coaches of C9 and get actually good players mid and support


I'd actually argue the opposite. It's not mechanical skill that makes faker better than anyone else, his in the decision making.

Mechanically I'd argue any above average BW player (c+/b-) is capable of doing anything that Faker has done, only thing is being able to realize in the moment that you actually could make the play.

Tbh, in terms of raw mechanical ability playing any champion pails in comparison to macroing on 6
8 hatches while executing a run by, a surround, and microing hold position lurkers and defilers. It's basically not even close. Yet you had thousands of people that could pull that off mechanically in bw.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1677
Graves makes sense with rumble, if you get hit by equalizer + collateral rip
Carrilord has arrived.
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
October 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#1678
On October 04 2014 16:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Graves Jana is really strong at level 6.

That shield +extra AD for Graves buckshot/colletaral combo, Hnggg
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 04 2014 07:35 GMT
#1679
This SSB team looks like they have no fucking damage.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
October 04 2014 07:35 GMT
#1680
I hope the Graves damage will be enough, the lack of his ult being an execute is what I feel is really hampering him from seeing pro play.

However, in this context I think Graves works well. An early or mid game dragon or baron fight, if SSB makes a single mistake C9 will DESTROY them.
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