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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On September 28 2014 21:48 GolemMadness wrote:
LMQ just falling apart today
LMQ are falling apart since their 2-0 start, they got roflstomped every game since.
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Now we play the greatest game of all..
Who will die first, DaDa or Ackerman at the worst possible time and place?
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Poland3774 Posts
How did Alliance lost to Kabum of all teams o_O and Najin then lost to c9 - what's happening o_O EU teams are on average 3.33th while NA strong 2nd, Taiwan 3.5, China 2nd... OR china 1.67th and NA 2.33th
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On September 28 2014 21:51 Parnage wrote:
Now we play the greatest game of all..
Who will die first, DaDa or Ackerman at the worst possible time and place?
Why not both?
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On September 28 2014 21:48 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 21:47 Doctorbeat wrote:On September 28 2014 21:46 nafta wrote:On September 28 2014 21:44 Kyo Yuy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:40 Numy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:37 ManBaker wrote:On September 28 2014 21:33 Numy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:32 Shikyo wrote:On September 28 2014 21:27 Numy wrote:
So i just got home and see KBM beat Alliance. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Does that mean A is now out of the running for top 2? Yeah they're out. And it wasn't a fluke, Kaboom won every lane and dominated throughout. That almost was a disaster by Dada, still gave away all the experience. EU truly has fallen lol. Wonder if EU stagnation is worse than CN stagnation. 3-3 vs NA, 1-1 vs Samsung Blue and Najin They lost because of rito (SK), because of more rito (Fnatic) and because of arrogant shitheads vs Kabum Hehe well even if they had all 3 teams out of groups I'd say that EU's current state looks rather poor. EU used to be one of the deepest regions aside from Korea with teams that were series power houses in BoX. The playstyle was also a lot different. Sure you had the slower teams like CLG.EU but you always had the crazy faster paced Fnatic/Gambit to balance it out. Now you have a region that is terribly slow and not very deep. I still think that EU, like China, has a very deep pool of super strong players. Many of the EU players joined NA teams after all. However, EU teams lack a lot of coaching and infrastructure that are seen in NA teams, and more importantly Korean teams. As we have seen, having the right infrastructure for progaming is everything. Am I the only that felt like all the games we lost were because there was someone on the team who performed just too bad?Like every one of eu's top teams has some very clear weak spots. Most teams have weak spots, it just seems like EU teams' weaknesses are far easier to exploit. I feel like when a team's weakness is in the top lane it's far more pronounced and abusable because of how easy it is to fuck over a top lane in this meta
Toplane seems to be the most difficult role, or at least it's a glaring weakness for many of the second tier teams. Alliance actually is an outlier in this regard, I consider Wickd rather good.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 28 2014 21:52 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 21:51 Parnage wrote:
Now we play the greatest game of all..
Who will die first, DaDa or Ackerman at the worst possible time and place? Why not both?
Dada and ackerman facecheck eachother in a brush, they both die
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That frustration from Jatt "HE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT!"
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They have a Kog'Maw. Better facecheck.
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On September 28 2014 21:53 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 21:48 Fusilero wrote:On September 28 2014 21:47 Doctorbeat wrote:On September 28 2014 21:46 nafta wrote:On September 28 2014 21:44 Kyo Yuy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:40 Numy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:37 ManBaker wrote:On September 28 2014 21:33 Numy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:32 Shikyo wrote:On September 28 2014 21:27 Numy wrote:
So i just got home and see KBM beat Alliance. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Does that mean A is now out of the running for top 2? Yeah they're out. And it wasn't a fluke, Kaboom won every lane and dominated throughout. That almost was a disaster by Dada, still gave away all the experience. EU truly has fallen lol. Wonder if EU stagnation is worse than CN stagnation. 3-3 vs NA, 1-1 vs Samsung Blue and Najin They lost because of rito (SK), because of more rito (Fnatic) and because of arrogant shitheads vs Kabum Hehe well even if they had all 3 teams out of groups I'd say that EU's current state looks rather poor. EU used to be one of the deepest regions aside from Korea with teams that were series power houses in BoX. The playstyle was also a lot different. Sure you had the slower teams like CLG.EU but you always had the crazy faster paced Fnatic/Gambit to balance it out. Now you have a region that is terribly slow and not very deep. I still think that EU, like China, has a very deep pool of super strong players. Many of the EU players joined NA teams after all. However, EU teams lack a lot of coaching and infrastructure that are seen in NA teams, and more importantly Korean teams. As we have seen, having the right infrastructure for progaming is everything. Am I the only that felt like all the games we lost were because there was someone on the team who performed just too bad?Like every one of eu's top teams has some very clear weak spots. Most teams have weak spots, it just seems like EU teams' weaknesses are far easier to exploit. I feel like when a team's weakness is in the top lane it's far more pronounced and abusable because of how easy it is to fuck over a top lane in this meta Toplane seems to be the most difficult role, or at least it's a glaring weakness for many of the second tier teams. Alliance actually is an outlier in this regard, I consider Wickd rather good.
Wickd historically has been trash on AP tops. It's been 3+ years and he's done nothing to prove this has changed it seems. Time to go.
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OMG is probably my favorite team to watch in this tournament. Really want them to do well.
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On September 28 2014 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
OMG is probably my favorite team to watch in this tournament. Really want them to do well.
Want to see how far Dada can get carried lol.
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On September 28 2014 21:55 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 21:53 Shikyo wrote:On September 28 2014 21:48 Fusilero wrote:On September 28 2014 21:47 Doctorbeat wrote:On September 28 2014 21:46 nafta wrote:On September 28 2014 21:44 Kyo Yuy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:40 Numy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:37 ManBaker wrote:On September 28 2014 21:33 Numy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:32 Shikyo wrote:
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Yeah they're out. And it wasn't a fluke, Kaboom won every lane and dominated throughout.
That almost was a disaster by Dada, still gave away all the experience. EU truly has fallen lol. Wonder if EU stagnation is worse than CN stagnation. 3-3 vs NA, 1-1 vs Samsung Blue and Najin They lost because of rito (SK), because of more rito (Fnatic) and because of arrogant shitheads vs Kabum Hehe well even if they had all 3 teams out of groups I'd say that EU's current state looks rather poor. EU used to be one of the deepest regions aside from Korea with teams that were series power houses in BoX. The playstyle was also a lot different. Sure you had the slower teams like CLG.EU but you always had the crazy faster paced Fnatic/Gambit to balance it out. Now you have a region that is terribly slow and not very deep. I still think that EU, like China, has a very deep pool of super strong players. Many of the EU players joined NA teams after all. However, EU teams lack a lot of coaching and infrastructure that are seen in NA teams, and more importantly Korean teams. As we have seen, having the right infrastructure for progaming is everything. Am I the only that felt like all the games we lost were because there was someone on the team who performed just too bad?Like every one of eu's top teams has some very clear weak spots. Most teams have weak spots, it just seems like EU teams' weaknesses are far easier to exploit. I feel like when a team's weakness is in the top lane it's far more pronounced and abusable because of how easy it is to fuck over a top lane in this meta Toplane seems to be the most difficult role, or at least it's a glaring weakness for many of the second tier teams. Alliance actually is an outlier in this regard, I consider Wickd rather good. Wickd historically has been trash on AP tops. It's been 3+ years and he's done nothing to prove this has changed it seems. Time to go.
Still remember the froggen vlog about making alliance and how wickd fixed his champion pool problems.Then we saw him play malphite with atma.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 28 2014 21:57 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
OMG is probably my favorite team to watch in this tournament. Really want them to do well. Want to see how far Dada can get carried lol.
If OMG somehow makes the finals it is greater proof than lucky last year that it is possible to carry a player far
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On September 28 2014 21:55 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 21:53 Shikyo wrote:On September 28 2014 21:48 Fusilero wrote:On September 28 2014 21:47 Doctorbeat wrote:On September 28 2014 21:46 nafta wrote:On September 28 2014 21:44 Kyo Yuy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:40 Numy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:37 ManBaker wrote:On September 28 2014 21:33 Numy wrote:On September 28 2014 21:32 Shikyo wrote:
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Yeah they're out. And it wasn't a fluke, Kaboom won every lane and dominated throughout.
That almost was a disaster by Dada, still gave away all the experience. EU truly has fallen lol. Wonder if EU stagnation is worse than CN stagnation. 3-3 vs NA, 1-1 vs Samsung Blue and Najin They lost because of rito (SK), because of more rito (Fnatic) and because of arrogant shitheads vs Kabum Hehe well even if they had all 3 teams out of groups I'd say that EU's current state looks rather poor. EU used to be one of the deepest regions aside from Korea with teams that were series power houses in BoX. The playstyle was also a lot different. Sure you had the slower teams like CLG.EU but you always had the crazy faster paced Fnatic/Gambit to balance it out. Now you have a region that is terribly slow and not very deep. I still think that EU, like China, has a very deep pool of super strong players. Many of the EU players joined NA teams after all. However, EU teams lack a lot of coaching and infrastructure that are seen in NA teams, and more importantly Korean teams. As we have seen, having the right infrastructure for progaming is everything. Am I the only that felt like all the games we lost were because there was someone on the team who performed just too bad?Like every one of eu's top teams has some very clear weak spots. Most teams have weak spots, it just seems like EU teams' weaknesses are far easier to exploit. I feel like when a team's weakness is in the top lane it's far more pronounced and abusable because of how easy it is to fuck over a top lane in this meta Toplane seems to be the most difficult role, or at least it's a glaring weakness for many of the second tier teams. Alliance actually is an outlier in this regard, I consider Wickd rather good. Wickd historically has been trash on AP tops. It's been 3+ years and he's done nothing to prove this has changed it seems. Time to go.
Wickd is still best EU top by default, considering that Fredy played out of his mind on Worlds and probably, it was his peak as well.
Hell, even sOAZ who tilted whole season and played atrociously, went just from top-3 toplane in the World last year to top-3 European toplane, that should tell you story about non-Korean toplaners.
And same story about jungle/supports.
#EUMIDFACTORY
#NAADCFACTORY
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so we most likely know the 8 best teams in the world this season: 3 from Korea, 3 from China and 2 from NA.
if i remember correctly last year we had similiar setup except there were 3 eu teams instead of na.
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I swear to god, Dada is just doing this so he can set up a mass TL ban wave due to him "Vilerozing" the shit out of everybody.
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Do the Chinese always play this long drawn out game style?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 28 2014 21:58 koziol wrote:
so we most likely know the 8 best teams in the world this season: 3 from Korea, 3 from China and 2 from NA.
if i remember correctly last year we had similiar setup except there were 3 eu teams instead of na.
Gama bears top 8 by default, glorious riot seeding systems
On September 28 2014 21:58 Cixah wrote:
Do the Chinese always play this long drawn out game style?
Baron fights are mandatory before winning in LPL
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Just realised that all of OMG's towers are up. If LMQ manages to take a fight, we could see a huge gold swing.
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EPT
