On September 28 2014 21:58 koziol wrote:
so we most likely know the 8 best teams in the world this season: 3 from Korea, 3 from China and 2 from NA.

if i remember correctly last year we had similiar setup except there were 3 eu teams instead of na.

You misspelled 8 from Korea.

Somewhat tongue in cheek, but ya.

LoveLin the god has returned.

lefty

United States1896 Posts

September 28 2014 13:01 GMT

#7983

Quarters is 3 OGN teams, 3 LPL teams, 2 NALCS teams

oo_Wonderful_oo

The land of freedom23126 Posts

September 28 2014 13:01 GMT

#7984

HOLY SHIT DAT Q.
Vasilii just got 2-shotted, gg.

OMG have real shot to final now.
#worth

ShootAnonymous

1948 Posts

September 28 2014 13:01 GMT

#7985

GGWP OMG :D

Takkara

United States2503 Posts

September 28 2014 13:01 GMT

#7986

So, in closing, KR > CN > NA > BR > EU?

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

September 28 2014 13:02 GMT

#7987

God damn it crumbzz................

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

September 28 2014 13:02 GMT

#7988

On September 28 2014 21:57 Numy wrote:

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Want to see how far Dada can get carried lol.

People are a bit too harsh on him in my opinion.

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

September 28 2014 13:02 GMT

#7989

That was amazingly clean albeit slow from OMG. Overall gj OMG, you got out of group stages with fucking dada

Kavas

Australia3421 Posts

September 28 2014 13:02 GMT

#7990

"Turrets? What is turrets?" True China team.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

September 28 2014 13:02 GMT

#7991

On September 28 2014 21:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:

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On September 28 2014 21:55 Numy wrote:

On September 28 2014 21:53 Shikyo wrote:

On September 28 2014 21:48 Fusilero wrote:

On September 28 2014 21:47 Doctorbeat wrote:

On September 28 2014 21:46 nafta wrote:

On September 28 2014 21:44 Kyo Yuy wrote:

On September 28 2014 21:40 Numy wrote:

On September 28 2014 21:37 ManBaker wrote:

On September 28 2014 21:33 Numy wrote:
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EU truly has fallen lol. Wonder if EU stagnation is worse than CN stagnation.

3-3 vs NA, 1-1 vs Samsung Blue and Najin

They lost because of rito (SK), because of more rito (Fnatic) and because of arrogant shitheads vs Kabum

Hehe well even if they had all 3 teams out of groups I'd say that EU's current state looks rather poor. EU used to be one of the deepest regions aside from Korea with teams that were series power houses in BoX. The playstyle was also a lot different. Sure you had the slower teams like CLG.EU but you always had the crazy faster paced Fnatic/Gambit to balance it out. Now you have a region that is terribly slow and not very deep.

I still think that EU, like China, has a very deep pool of super strong players. Many of the EU players joined NA teams after all.

However, EU teams lack a lot of coaching and infrastructure that are seen in NA teams, and more importantly Korean teams.

As we have seen, having the right infrastructure for progaming is everything.

Am I the only that felt like all the games we lost were because there was someone on the team who performed just too bad?Like every one of eu's top teams has some very clear weak spots.

Most teams have weak spots, it just seems like EU teams' weaknesses are far easier to exploit.

I feel like when a team's weakness is in the top lane it's far more pronounced and abusable because of how easy it is to fuck over a top lane in this meta

Toplane seems to be the most difficult role, or at least it's a glaring weakness for many of the second tier teams. Alliance actually is an outlier in this regard, I consider Wickd rather good.

Wickd historically has been trash on AP tops. It's been 3+ years and he's done nothing to prove this has changed it seems. Time to go.

Wickd is still best EU top by default, considering that Fredy played out of his mind on Worlds and probably, it was his peak as well.
Hell, even sOAZ who tilted whole season and played atrociously, went just from top-3 toplane in the World last year to top-3 European toplane, that should tell you story about non-Korean toplaners.

And same story about jungle/supports.
#EUMIDFACTORY
#NAADCFACTORY

Well I think guys like Mimer/Kevin could grow into strong top laners on a good team with good support structure.

ShootAnonymous

1948 Posts

September 28 2014 13:02 GMT

#7992

you did it OMG, you carried Dada into QFs! So proud of you~

On September 28 2014 22:02 Shikyo wrote:

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People are a bit too harsh on him in my opinion.

no.

XD

Bulgaria4131 Posts

September 28 2014 13:02 GMT

#7993

On September 28 2014 22:01 Takkara wrote:
So, in closing, KR > CN > NA > BR > EU?

KR > CN > NA > BR > EU > TR xD

Maluk

France987 Posts

September 28 2014 13:03 GMT

#7994

Funny how LMQ certainly wasn't the weakest NA team coming into this and yet they are the ones that can't advance.

Djagulingu

Germany3605 Posts

September 28 2014 13:03 GMT

#7995

YAY TRIAD WINS IT!

Alaric

France45622 Posts

September 28 2014 13:03 GMT

#7996

Nothing happens for ~15 minutes, so I decide to go and do the cooking. Less than 2 minutes later I hear the stream erupt and the game end. ._.

Kavas

Australia3421 Posts

September 28 2014 13:03 GMT

#7997

On September 28 2014 22:03 Maluk wrote:
Funny how LMQ certainly wasn't the weakest NA team coming into this and they are the ones that can't advance.

What? They're the last seed.

FairForever

Canada2392 Posts

September 28 2014 13:04 GMT

#7998

On September 28 2014 22:03 Kavas wrote:

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What? They're the last seed.

And they were in by far the hardest group.

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

September 28 2014 13:04 GMT

#7999

On September 28 2014 22:03 Alaric wrote:
Nothing happens for ~15 minutes, so I decide to go and do the cooking. Less than 2 minutes later I hear the stream erupt and the game end. ._.

LMQ get desperate and xaiowexaio has to ult to check for vision, without it OMG got the baron. LMQ's contest fails and they promptly die

Keniji

Netherlands2569 Posts

September 28 2014 13:04 GMT

#8000

On September 28 2014 22:03 Maluk wrote:
Funny how LMQ certainly wasn't the weakest NA team coming into this and they are the ones that can't advance.

You can always say that some teams have easier brackets.
That's why you win your regionals for good seeding.

On September 28 2014 22:04 FairForever wrote:

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And they were in by far the hardest group.

As they should be as last seed?