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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
September 28 2014 13:00 GMT
#7981
wait, if C9 win we have 3 korean teams in one bracket?! wow
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 13:01:27
September 28 2014 13:00 GMT
#7982
On September 28 2014 21:58 koziol wrote:
so we most likely know the 8 best teams in the world this season: 3 from Korea, 3 from China and 2 from NA.

if i remember correctly last year we had similiar setup except there were 3 eu teams instead of na.



You misspelled 8 from Korea.

Somewhat tongue in cheek, but ya.

LoveLin the god has returned.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
September 28 2014 13:01 GMT
#7983
Quarters is 3 OGN teams, 3 LPL teams, 2 NALCS teams
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
September 28 2014 13:01 GMT
#7984
HOLY SHIT DAT Q.
Vasilii just got 2-shotted, gg.

OMG have real shot to final now.
#worth
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
September 28 2014 13:01 GMT
#7985
GGWP OMG :D
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
September 28 2014 13:01 GMT
#7986
So, in closing, KR > CN > NA > BR > EU?
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 28 2014 13:02 GMT
#7987
God damn it crumbzz................
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2014 13:02 GMT
#7988
On September 28 2014 21:57 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
OMG is probably my favorite team to watch in this tournament. Really want them to do well.


Want to see how far Dada can get carried lol.

People are a bit too harsh on him in my opinion.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 28 2014 13:02 GMT
#7989
That was amazingly clean albeit slow from OMG. Overall gj OMG, you got out of group stages with fucking dada
Glorious SEA doto
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 28 2014 13:02 GMT
#7990
"Turrets? What is turrets?" True China team.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 28 2014 13:02 GMT
#7991
On September 28 2014 21:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 21:55 Numy wrote:
On September 28 2014 21:53 Shikyo wrote:
On September 28 2014 21:48 Fusilero wrote:
On September 28 2014 21:47 Doctorbeat wrote:
On September 28 2014 21:46 nafta wrote:
On September 28 2014 21:44 Kyo Yuy wrote:
On September 28 2014 21:40 Numy wrote:
On September 28 2014 21:37 ManBaker wrote:
On September 28 2014 21:33 Numy wrote:
[quote]

EU truly has fallen lol. Wonder if EU stagnation is worse than CN stagnation.


3-3 vs NA, 1-1 vs Samsung Blue and Najin

They lost because of rito (SK), because of more rito (Fnatic) and because of arrogant shitheads vs Kabum


Hehe well even if they had all 3 teams out of groups I'd say that EU's current state looks rather poor. EU used to be one of the deepest regions aside from Korea with teams that were series power houses in BoX. The playstyle was also a lot different. Sure you had the slower teams like CLG.EU but you always had the crazy faster paced Fnatic/Gambit to balance it out. Now you have a region that is terribly slow and not very deep.

I still think that EU, like China, has a very deep pool of super strong players. Many of the EU players joined NA teams after all.

However, EU teams lack a lot of coaching and infrastructure that are seen in NA teams, and more importantly Korean teams.

As we have seen, having the right infrastructure for progaming is everything.

Am I the only that felt like all the games we lost were because there was someone on the team who performed just too bad?Like every one of eu's top teams has some very clear weak spots.


Most teams have weak spots, it just seems like EU teams' weaknesses are far easier to exploit.

I feel like when a team's weakness is in the top lane it's far more pronounced and abusable because of how easy it is to fuck over a top lane in this meta

Toplane seems to be the most difficult role, or at least it's a glaring weakness for many of the second tier teams. Alliance actually is an outlier in this regard, I consider Wickd rather good.


Wickd historically has been trash on AP tops. It's been 3+ years and he's done nothing to prove this has changed it seems. Time to go.


Wickd is still best EU top by default, considering that Fredy played out of his mind on Worlds and probably, it was his peak as well.
Hell, even sOAZ who tilted whole season and played atrociously, went just from top-3 toplane in the World last year to top-3 European toplane, that should tell you story about non-Korean toplaners.

And same story about jungle/supports.
#EUMIDFACTORY
#NAADCFACTORY



Well I think guys like Mimer/Kevin could grow into strong top laners on a good team with good support structure.
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 13:03:34
September 28 2014 13:02 GMT
#7992
you did it OMG, you carried Dada into QFs! So proud of you~

On September 28 2014 22:02 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 21:57 Numy wrote:
On September 28 2014 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
OMG is probably my favorite team to watch in this tournament. Really want them to do well.


Want to see how far Dada can get carried lol.

People are a bit too harsh on him in my opinion.


no.

XD
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
September 28 2014 13:02 GMT
#7993
On September 28 2014 22:01 Takkara wrote:
So, in closing, KR > CN > NA > BR > EU?

KR > CN > NA > BR > EU > TR xD
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 13:04:09
September 28 2014 13:03 GMT
#7994
Funny how LMQ certainly wasn't the weakest NA team coming into this and yet they are the ones that can't advance.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 28 2014 13:03 GMT
#7995
YAY TRIAD WINS IT!
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 28 2014 13:03 GMT
#7996
Nothing happens for ~15 minutes, so I decide to go and do the cooking. Less than 2 minutes later I hear the stream erupt and the game end. ._.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 28 2014 13:03 GMT
#7997
On September 28 2014 22:03 Maluk wrote:
Funny how LMQ certainly wasn't the weakest NA team coming into this and they are the ones that can't advance.

What? They're the last seed.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
September 28 2014 13:04 GMT
#7998
On September 28 2014 22:03 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 22:03 Maluk wrote:
Funny how LMQ certainly wasn't the weakest NA team coming into this and they are the ones that can't advance.

What? They're the last seed.


And they were in by far the hardest group.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 28 2014 13:04 GMT
#7999
On September 28 2014 22:03 Alaric wrote:
Nothing happens for ~15 minutes, so I decide to go and do the cooking. Less than 2 minutes later I hear the stream erupt and the game end. ._.

LMQ get desperate and xaiowexaio has to ult to check for vision, without it OMG got the baron. LMQ's contest fails and they promptly die
Glorious SEA doto
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 13:05:24
September 28 2014 13:04 GMT
#8000
On September 28 2014 22:03 Maluk wrote:
Funny how LMQ certainly wasn't the weakest NA team coming into this and they are the ones that can't advance.


You can always say that some teams have easier brackets.
That's why you win your regionals for good seeding.

On September 28 2014 22:04 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 22:03 Kavas wrote:
On September 28 2014 22:03 Maluk wrote:
Funny how LMQ certainly wasn't the weakest NA team coming into this and they are the ones that can't advance.

What? They're the last seed.


And they were in by far the hardest group.


As they should be as last seed?

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