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[NA LCS] Summer 2014 Playoffs Week 2 - Page 12

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ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 20:30:38
August 29 2014 20:27 GMT
#221
On August 30 2014 05:23 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:22 Affenaffe wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:18 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:15 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:12 Numy wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:09 Numy wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:05 Numy wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:03 wei2coolman wrote:
[quote]
The problem with Dig is getting a new player in spots is hard. There are very few open agents or possible players in lower-tiers that would be trade-able that would be a significant upgrade over what Dig already has.


That's a lie lol. Dig players are just too big buddies to actually get kicked. It's why Scarra was around for so long.

Who realistically could replace Crumbz?

Kiwi I could see a few challenger support who are around as good, but then you have to go through rebuild for synergy in botlane.

Who's a better ADC than QTpie that isn't already on a decent LCS team? RobertXLee? but is he really going to leave CoL?


Pretty much any of the junglers in the promos are better than Crumbz and evvery other jungler in LCS is better.

It's easy to say junglers in promos are better than crumbz, considering the level of competition they're playing.


They don't go damage and engage poorly constantly. Think it's pretty easy to see how bad Crumbz is if you don't have Dig goggles.

Yeah, Crumbz is shit, bu I still think he's better than any jungler Dig could realistically pick up.


Dig don't need an all-star caliber jungler, they just need someone who can build the right items for their team comp and engage properly.


it's a bit sad because crumbzz has really good early game map awareness of the enemies movements and can gank/countergank really well. i don't understand why he cant do the way easier part of the game on a nearly similar level.


I've been spamming this, so I apologize, but I really think it has to do with item builds and his communication with the team. When he engages Dig looks like they've been caught entirely off guard by it. And then he dies instantly because he doesn't understand it isn't solo queue and he can't afford to build damage.


I've noticed this as well. Every time he goes in he gets chunked almost immediately (the memory of syndra ult pummeling him into submission is very vivid) and I think there was only once that the amumu+ori ult combo was pulled off well. The other times his engages didn't really accomplish much at all.

edit: no three buff start. go go dig!
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 29 2014 20:31 GMT
#222
Smart calls by CLG there.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 29 2014 20:32 GMT
#223
ryze still lvl 2 after 7 minutes lol
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 29 2014 20:33 GMT
#224
I know the overall movement was good for CLG, but Seraph being so far behind is painful to see.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 29 2014 20:33 GMT
#225
On August 30 2014 05:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
ryze still lvl 2 after 7 minutes lol

Doesn't matter, Seraph still stacking his tears regardless. He'll still hit his timing relatively at the same time.
liftlift > tsm
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
August 29 2014 20:34 GMT
#226
On August 30 2014 05:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
ryze still lvl 2 after 7 minutes lol

It's okay, it's the strange korean guy that nobody cares about anyway.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 29 2014 20:34 GMT
#227
This is the CLG i was expecting.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22457 Posts
August 29 2014 20:35 GMT
#228
On August 30 2014 05:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
ryze still lvl 2 after 7 minutes lol

Doesn't matter, Seraph still stacking his tears regardless. He'll still hit his timing relatively at the same time.

The delay on his RoA is a much bigger deal tho.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 20:35:56
August 29 2014 20:35 GMT
#229
tears before sighstone on aphro. O.o
On August 30 2014 05:35 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
ryze still lvl 2 after 7 minutes lol

Doesn't matter, Seraph still stacking his tears regardless. He'll still hit his timing relatively at the same time.

The delay on his RoA is a much bigger deal tho.

He's not that far behind in gold though... the dragon + early tower made up for lack of gold. He's still gunna hit roa timing around the same time.
liftlift > tsm
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 20:35:57
August 29 2014 20:35 GMT
#230
http://i.imgur.com/7FO9a8A.png ?
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
August 29 2014 20:35 GMT
#231
That was terrible lane swap by CLG. Seraph should have been with Dexter from lvl one. He saw Dig botlane at top and he went for no reason for 2 golems.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
August 29 2014 20:37 GMT
#232
so did seraph get screwed by his team again or was it his own fault?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 29 2014 20:38 GMT
#233
5v3 and they still too scared to do anything.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 20:40:07
August 29 2014 20:39 GMT
#234
On August 30 2014 05:37 Shiznick wrote:
so did seraph get screwed by his team again or was it his own fault?

No, it works fine for ryze, since he's lategame scaling, and is more item dependent than level dependent. He scales with time/gold, and less so with levels. So just look at his item timing, not much different than if they made him stay in lane.

CLG simply shouldn't be contesting dragon right now, Yasuo and Ryze still need time to ramp up. Same mistake they made in game 2 vs Curse.
liftlift > tsm
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
August 29 2014 20:40 GMT
#235
On August 30 2014 05:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:37 Shiznick wrote:
so did seraph get screwed by his team again or was it his own fault?

No, it works fine for ryze, since he's lategame scaling, and is more item dependent than level dependent. He scales with time/gold, and less so with levels. So just look at his item timing, not much different than if they made him stay in lane.

CLG simply shouldn't be contesting dragon right now, Yasuo and Ryze still need time to ramp up. Same mistake they made in game 2 vs Curse.

Still he missplayed lvl 1.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 29 2014 20:43 GMT
#236
On August 30 2014 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:
tears before sighstone on aphro. O.o
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:35 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
ryze still lvl 2 after 7 minutes lol

Doesn't matter, Seraph still stacking his tears regardless. He'll still hit his timing relatively at the same time.

The delay on his RoA is a much bigger deal tho.

He's not that far behind in gold though... the dragon + early tower made up for lack of gold. He's still gunna hit roa timing around the same time.

A bit late but tear has been the standart first buy on zilean for pretty much everyone.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 29 2014 20:44 GMT
#237
On August 30 2014 05:43 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:
tears before sighstone on aphro. O.o
On August 30 2014 05:35 Gorsameth wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 05:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
ryze still lvl 2 after 7 minutes lol

Doesn't matter, Seraph still stacking his tears regardless. He'll still hit his timing relatively at the same time.

The delay on his RoA is a much bigger deal tho.

He's not that far behind in gold though... the dragon + early tower made up for lack of gold. He's still gunna hit roa timing around the same time.

A bit late but tear has been the standart first buy on zilean for pretty much everyone.

I know zil got popular recently in support, but never really paid much attention to build order in support.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 29 2014 20:46 GMT
#238
Laneswap doesn't matter when Dig doesn't use it and lets CLG free farm (while they themselve fail to farm).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
August 29 2014 20:48 GMT
#239
ROFL What was that?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 29 2014 20:48 GMT
#240
lol clg
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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