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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
As much as people praise Cop, I still can't place him in top 3 NA. He's decent but I don't see much beyond that.
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On July 06 2014 09:33 MoonBear wrote: As much as people praise Cop, I still can't place him in top 3 NA. He's decent but I don't see much beyond that. people praise cop?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On July 06 2014 09:33 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. One bad series doesn't = massive choker. I think Shiphtur will need to step it up in the playoffs, but Coast were having serious internal issues apparently when that series happened so I wouldn't read too much into it. Otherwise I agree with you, I don't really see EG losing to any challenger teams. Helios > Nintendude. Innox did feed against Westrice though, so I'm not convinced he won't against Rhux. That game against Col was really something.
One series? He did nothing in Coast promotions against TWZ, getting carried by Spartan's Nasus and stuff, he did nothing in Coast's slaughter against CLB and in Coast's playoffs right before it he hadn't step up at all. It's called choke, when you're considered as one of flashiest stars in the region.
Well, Westrice ain't that bad, honestly. I was expecting way worse, basing on his perfomance against Coast. I'm not making InnoX better than he is, but give some props to Westrice.
On July 06 2014 09:33 ExceliosBeyond wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. If they finish last, they won't be facing Coast.
And who, rofl? Team 8 won't make into Promotions and other teams < Coast.
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On July 06 2014 09:33 MoonBear wrote: As much as people praise Cop, I still can't place him in top 3 NA. He's decent but I don't see much beyond that. Where's this praise coming from lol, he had 1 OK game today but most of his other games consists of him playing overly safe and ppl call him out on it a whole lot.
Also, I don't think any1 would seriously come close to placing him top 3 in NA considering DL, turtle and sneaky are in the LCS.
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On July 06 2014 09:38 Neverhood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:33 MoonBear wrote: As much as people praise Cop, I still can't place him in top 3 NA. He's decent but I don't see much beyond that. Where's this praise coming from lol, he had 1 OK game today but most of his other games consists of him playing overly safe and ppl call him out on it a whole lot. Also, I don't think any1 would seriously come close to placing him top 3 in NA considering DL, turtle and sneaky are in the LCS.
Altec > Sneaky and arguably even better than WT. Funnily enough, NA is probably at 8 best ADs in the region right now in LCS.
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Ignoring what the casters say, I remember various peoples in pre/post game stuff talking about his consistency, not dying a lot and his cs to which I always think "consistently mediocre" and "is good at running away".
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On July 06 2014 09:35 IMoperator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:33 MoonBear wrote: As much as people praise Cop, I still can't place him in top 3 NA. He's decent but I don't see much beyond that. people praise cop?
uhm no?
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This is why kog wasn't played much before.Also why woolite runs cleanse almost all the time which is pretty cool.
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On July 06 2014 09:41 MoonBear wrote: Ignoring what the casters say, I remember various peoples in pre/post game stuff talking about his consistency, not dying a lot and his cs to which I always think "consistently mediocre" and "is good at running away". According to the casters everyone is top3 in everything.
nvm I forgot what jatt dilemma actually refers to.
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What happened c9 ?You were the chosen ones.....
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On July 06 2014 09:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:33 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. One bad series doesn't = massive choker. I think Shiphtur will need to step it up in the playoffs, but Coast were having serious internal issues apparently when that series happened so I wouldn't read too much into it. Otherwise I agree with you, I don't really see EG losing to any challenger teams. Helios > Nintendude. Innox did feed against Westrice though, so I'm not convinced he won't against Rhux. That game against Col was really something. One series? He did nothing in Coast promotions against TWZ, getting carried by Spartan's Nasus and stuff, he did nothing in Coast's slaughter against CLB and in Coast's playoffs right before it he hadn't step up at all. It's called choke, when you're considered as one of flashiest stars in the region. Well, Westrice ain't that bad, honestly. I was expecting way worse, basing on his perfomance against Coast. I'm not making InnoX better than he is, but give some props to Westrice. Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:33 ExceliosBeyond wrote:On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. If they finish last, they won't be facing Coast. And who, rofl? Team 8 won't make into Promotions and other teams < Coast.
I guess we'll agree to disagree on Shiphtur. CLG's had plenty of garbage playoff series but I don't consider them to be chokers.
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On July 06 2014 09:41 MoonBear wrote: Ignoring what the casters say, I remember various peoples in pre/post game stuff talking about his consistency, not dying a lot and his cs to which I always think "consistently mediocre" and "is good at running away". I think that was when crs were doing well last year and he had the best KDA. These days it's mostly a joke since he's too worried about dying and his KDA that he just pussies out in teamfights and does no dmg.
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On July 06 2014 09:43 nafta wrote:What happened c9  ?You were the chosen ones..... Meteos should stop playing Lee or train it a LOT. hes just bad at it.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On July 06 2014 09:43 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:33 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. One bad series doesn't = massive choker. I think Shiphtur will need to step it up in the playoffs, but Coast were having serious internal issues apparently when that series happened so I wouldn't read too much into it. Otherwise I agree with you, I don't really see EG losing to any challenger teams. Helios > Nintendude. Innox did feed against Westrice though, so I'm not convinced he won't against Rhux. That game against Col was really something. One series? He did nothing in Coast promotions against TWZ, getting carried by Spartan's Nasus and stuff, he did nothing in Coast's slaughter against CLB and in Coast's playoffs right before it he hadn't step up at all. It's called choke, when you're considered as one of flashiest stars in the region. Well, Westrice ain't that bad, honestly. I was expecting way worse, basing on his perfomance against Coast. I'm not making InnoX better than he is, but give some props to Westrice. On July 06 2014 09:33 ExceliosBeyond wrote:On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. If they finish last, they won't be facing Coast. And who, rofl? Team 8 won't make into Promotions and other teams < Coast. I guess we'll agree to disagree on Shiphtur. CLG's had plenty of garbage playoff series but I don't consider them to be chokers.
Link and dexter are chokers, because of it i just pray on my knees that CLG will finish top-2 in regular season. AND OFC, I HOPE THAT SERAPH WON'T CHOKE BY HIMSELF.
On July 06 2014 09:44 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:43 nafta wrote:What happened c9  ?You were the chosen ones..... Meteos should stop playing Lee or train it a LOT. hes just bad at it.
Season 3 players. And it's season 2 meta now.
On July 06 2014 09:48 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:43 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 09:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:33 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. One bad series doesn't = massive choker. I think Shiphtur will need to step it up in the playoffs, but Coast were having serious internal issues apparently when that series happened so I wouldn't read too much into it. Otherwise I agree with you, I don't really see EG losing to any challenger teams. Helios > Nintendude. Innox did feed against Westrice though, so I'm not convinced he won't against Rhux. That game against Col was really something. One series? He did nothing in Coast promotions against TWZ, getting carried by Spartan's Nasus and stuff, he did nothing in Coast's slaughter against CLB and in Coast's playoffs right before it he hadn't step up at all. It's called choke, when you're considered as one of flashiest stars in the region. Well, Westrice ain't that bad, honestly. I was expecting way worse, basing on his perfomance against Coast. I'm not making InnoX better than he is, but give some props to Westrice. On July 06 2014 09:33 ExceliosBeyond wrote:On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. If they finish last, they won't be facing Coast. And who, rofl? Team 8 won't make into Promotions and other teams < Coast. I guess we'll agree to disagree on Shiphtur. CLG's had plenty of garbage playoff series but I don't consider them to be chokers. Link and dexter are chokers, because of it i just pray on my knees that CLG will finish top-2 in regular season. AND OFC, I HOPE THAT SERAPH WON'T CHOKE BY HIMSELF. On July 06 2014 09:44 Gorsameth wrote:On July 06 2014 09:43 nafta wrote:What happened c9  ?You were the chosen ones..... Meteos should stop playing Lee or train it a LOT. hes just bad at it. Season 3 players. And it's season 2 meta now. Hey, I mean, they'll be fine as long as they don't have to play TSM. Cue approaching Dexter panic attack...
Funnily, i will bet on CLG this time for sure. TSM doesn't have leader, TSM have Bjergsen who has same problem as Shiphtur and other 4 can easily go on tilt during series. Now they don't have Reginald/TOO/Xpecial and i'm quite sure in CLG.
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On July 06 2014 09:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:43 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 09:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:33 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. One bad series doesn't = massive choker. I think Shiphtur will need to step it up in the playoffs, but Coast were having serious internal issues apparently when that series happened so I wouldn't read too much into it. Otherwise I agree with you, I don't really see EG losing to any challenger teams. Helios > Nintendude. Innox did feed against Westrice though, so I'm not convinced he won't against Rhux. That game against Col was really something. One series? He did nothing in Coast promotions against TWZ, getting carried by Spartan's Nasus and stuff, he did nothing in Coast's slaughter against CLB and in Coast's playoffs right before it he hadn't step up at all. It's called choke, when you're considered as one of flashiest stars in the region. Well, Westrice ain't that bad, honestly. I was expecting way worse, basing on his perfomance against Coast. I'm not making InnoX better than he is, but give some props to Westrice. On July 06 2014 09:33 ExceliosBeyond wrote:On July 06 2014 09:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 09:25 AlterKot wrote:On July 06 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: They won't :D Shiptur and Zion will just destroy any Challenger team basically 2v5, even coL but they won't advance to relegations anyway. Late reply but man, don't underestimate NA challenger teams :^) Rofl. Shiphtur is massive choker, i won't bet on Dignitas at all in playoffs this split. But let's be honest. EG destroyed both Promotions before and if they don't finish last, they won't face Coast. Even if they face Coast, Pobelter will dump goldenglue and he's like core to all successes of Coast because i saw enough DontMashMe in last 3 years and Altec is like two heads with shoulders above him. InnoX won't feed to Rhux either, so we're done here and Santorin have already choked in Promotions once by himself. In twist of fate, EG sweeps Coast 3-0, Krepo retires, Sheep is getting transferred from Coast to EG. Hai, time to step up, dude. If they finish last, they won't be facing Coast. And who, rofl? Team 8 won't make into Promotions and other teams < Coast. I guess we'll agree to disagree on Shiphtur. CLG's had plenty of garbage playoff series but I don't consider them to be chokers. Link and dexter are chokers, because of it i just pray on my knees that CLG will finish top-2 in regular season. AND OFC, I HOPE THAT SERAPH WON'T CHOKE BY HIMSELF. Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:44 Gorsameth wrote:On July 06 2014 09:43 nafta wrote:What happened c9  ?You were the chosen ones..... Meteos should stop playing Lee or train it a LOT. hes just bad at it. Season 3 players. And it's season 2 meta now.
Hey, I mean, they'll be fine as long as they don't have to play TSM. Cue approaching Dexter panic attack...
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On July 06 2014 09:44 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 09:43 nafta wrote:What happened c9  ?You were the chosen ones..... Meteos should stop playing Lee or train it a LOT. hes just bad at it. While meteos lee is pretty awful the thing that worries me more is their random mid game big plays don't really happen that often.They also just do bad plays really often.
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Lol jax balanced champion.
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Damn balls was the clearly the best top laner just a few months ago and now he's getting dumpstered by the same people he used to tool.
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c9 showing a pretty poor performance.
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