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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 30 2014 22:49 GMT
#1381
On March 31 2014 07:47 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 07:42 nafta wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:40 ParadeofMadness wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:34 nafta wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:32 ParadeofMadness wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:25 Swords wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:24 beefhamburger wrote:
I think Sneaky is a real viable contender for All-stars, or at least should be. He is at the very least top 3 NA ADC and you could argue him being #1. I don't know how well he can play other lanes, but as an AD he is always impressive imo.


He's really improved a lot. Even early this season he and Lemon looked like the weak link on C9, but they've turned that around completely.

I still don't think he's at the level of Dlift/WT, but he's getting there.


To be honest, they look as weak link always when they face Rush Hour.
But considering fact that C9 this season don't think about laning as much as last season, it's not a problem for them.



the point is you wont get to teamfight phase if you get sht on in laning phase unless you laneswap 100% of the time. Think of C9 botlane facing EDG's bot or imp&mata. How do you contest drake when your ad is 20+cs and levels behind

By laneswapping or simply picking well?You can definitely go even vs superior opponents with good picks/swaps or jungle pressure.C9 really aren't that bad at laning dunno why everyone loves to mention it for no reason.


you mean going even while you counterpick your opponent? cuz thats what happens in c9 bot's laning phase. sure you can do that, but that means you have to sacrifice top. Do that against korean teams and gg easy son, any na toplaner getting counterpicked against korean tops, game becomes 4v5

Why would they have to sacrifice top?What are you even talking about?


wtf, this isn't soloqueqe . One lane's weakness affects other lanes. you compensate botlanes weakness by counterpicking them, then In the drafting phase you have to pick top/jungle/mid first. Jungle has low champion pool so it gets priotiorized. No one wants their mid to get counterpicked because how mid-dependent this meta is. So top becomes the sacrifical lamb.

You are assuming you can just counterpick an enemy team botlane without weakening your other lanes. But any good team with their head on right in the drafting phase wont allow that to happen.


To be honest, you can pick better lanes without counterpicking, that was pure Cloud9 strategy last season which worked until the moment of Kassadin and double tp, when Fnatic just abused Hai and C9's botlane.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 30 2014 22:50 GMT
#1382
EG team full ad. Ok Innox ha smaybe not the biggest champion pool, but it is not like Pobelter could not have played aynthing else. Again EG puts themselves on a clock.
Off-season = best season
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 30 2014 22:52 GMT
#1383
On March 31 2014 07:47 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 07:42 nafta wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:40 ParadeofMadness wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:34 nafta wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:32 ParadeofMadness wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:25 Swords wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:24 beefhamburger wrote:
I think Sneaky is a real viable contender for All-stars, or at least should be. He is at the very least top 3 NA ADC and you could argue him being #1. I don't know how well he can play other lanes, but as an AD he is always impressive imo.


He's really improved a lot. Even early this season he and Lemon looked like the weak link on C9, but they've turned that around completely.

I still don't think he's at the level of Dlift/WT, but he's getting there.


To be honest, they look as weak link always when they face Rush Hour.
But considering fact that C9 this season don't think about laning as much as last season, it's not a problem for them.



the point is you wont get to teamfight phase if you get sht on in laning phase unless you laneswap 100% of the time. Think of C9 botlane facing EDG's bot or imp&mata. How do you contest drake when your ad is 20+cs and levels behind

By laneswapping or simply picking well?You can definitely go even vs superior opponents with good picks/swaps or jungle pressure.C9 really aren't that bad at laning dunno why everyone loves to mention it for no reason.


you mean going even while you counterpick your opponent? cuz thats what happens in c9 bot's laning phase. sure you can do that, but that means you have to sacrifice top. Do that against korean teams and gg easy son, any na toplaner getting counterpicked against korean tops, game becomes 4v5

Why would they have to sacrifice top?What are you even talking about?


wtf, this isn't soloqueqe . One lane's weakness affects other lanes. you compensate botlanes weakness by counterpicking them, then In the drafting phase you have to pick top/jungle/mid first. Jungle has low champion pool so it gets priotiorized. No one wants their mid to get counterpicked because how mid-dependent this meta is. So top becomes the sacrifical lamb.

You are assuming you can just counterpick an enemy team botlane without weakening your other lanes. But any good team with their head on right in the drafting phase wont allow that to happen.

I am not assuming anything.Bot lane doesn't get counterpicked unless you pick something weak.If you go caitlyn/karma or something similar unless you get VERY outplayed you win or go even AT WORST by just the picks.Doesn't matter if you pick them blind.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 30 2014 22:54 GMT
#1384
On March 31 2014 07:49 Sleight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 07:46 wei2coolman wrote:
why pick varus and eve into k6 and lee sin? such dumb idea >.>


everyone knows that when you have a hyper mobile enemy team, you need to pick a completely immobile adc, because it is so unbelievably stupid, the other team will think you are superbaiting them. Duh.

it's pretty apparent to me that alex penn doesn't do shit for coast. it's so fucking obvious that you see k6 that you don't fucking choose varus....
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 30 2014 22:56 GMT
#1385
what the fuck was that zion and nintendude >.>
liftlift > tsm
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
March 30 2014 22:57 GMT
#1386
snoopeh bought his lcs account on ebay ehehe^^
Science>Mechanics
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 30 2014 22:58 GMT
#1387
Every time junglers go by the bushes without checking them for pinks god kills a puppy.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
March 30 2014 23:00 GMT
#1388
is Nintendude the least effective/impactful jungler in professional play right now?
In Inca we trust
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 30 2014 23:01 GMT
#1389
On March 31 2014 08:00 las91 wrote:
is Nintendude the least effective/impactful jungler in professional play right now?

he's so bad, he's negative on charts.
liftlift > tsm
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
March 30 2014 23:02 GMT
#1390
On March 31 2014 08:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 08:00 las91 wrote:
is Nintendude the least effective/impactful jungler in professional play right now?

he's so bad, he's negative on charts.


sounds like my eve jungle...
In Inca we trust
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
March 30 2014 23:02 GMT
#1391
On March 31 2014 08:00 las91 wrote:
is Nintendude the least effective/impactful jungler in professional play right now?


He is the proud owner of the highest death count in LCS history... So yes. For that and so many other reasons. He just quit getting better while the rest of the scene (minus maybe Snoopeh) improved.
One Love
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 30 2014 23:04 GMT
#1392
Innox singlehandedly brought Coast back for no reason at all.
Off-season = best season
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 30 2014 23:05 GMT
#1393
innox going full retard after massively outplaying zion and nitnendude 5 sec earlier >.>
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 30 2014 23:05 GMT
#1394
The bot lane synergy for coast is legendary.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 30 2014 23:10 GMT
#1395
Oh boy, they were so close to killing Kha. Too bad they stacked the cc with the Solar Flare.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
March 30 2014 23:13 GMT
#1396
EG...what are you doing
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 30 2014 23:13 GMT
#1397
... wow Shiptur. Would have made the same result if he wasn't in that fight.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#1398
WOOT
PETE FLASHED FORWARD?

Wiz won't get a shot this game, Pobelter is just deleting him.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 23:15:54
March 30 2014 23:14 GMT
#1399
innox doing so much work here.

this is why no one plays varus.
liftlift > tsm
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
March 30 2014 23:17 GMT
#1400
On March 31 2014 07:30 cruefix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 07:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:23 cruefix wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:18 Sleight wrote:
On March 31 2014 07:13 Alaric wrote:
Get fucked Balls, can't be so lucky everytime.


I have loved following your posts. The best top laner in NA is "just lucky" about 5 times a game. Too funny. Definitely no skill involved to set themselves up for all those "lucky" plays. Total luck that the guy who routinely 1v1s every other top laner manages to survive and get away safely from dicey situations. Luck luck luck luck

Those who attribute many things to "luck" are more likely to have an external locus of control and have problems improving at anything as they are unabled to see mistakes

projecting much?

Projection typically occurs in defence of self so uhhh.. no. It was merely an observation lel

It's an unconscious defense mechanism in psychodynamic theory, it isn't necessarily triggered when someone attacks you but rather when you see an aspect of yourself that you don't like...
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