EPT[EU LCS] S4 Spring Week 3 - Page 41
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
If the all-star games again has influence on worlds spots I will rage so hard. I will actually be tempted to not watch. | ||
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Vega62a
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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skykh
3006 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:03 Redox wrote: If the all-star games again has influence on worlds spots I will rage so hard. I will actually be tempted to not watch. Is for korea getting third spot again... | ||
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:01 Redox wrote: Or go for Dragon or at least defend dragon while having teleport on top laner. Rotations and objective control were nonexistent again, just giving everythign away. once the first real fight started they were already too far behind. It seems like Alliance has no shotcalling at all. Blaming it on individual players is inapproproate here. Yeah I'm not blaming Wickd - Alliance as a team has to realize that their top lane isn't going to win 1v1, barring something strange happening - so they needed to take their advantage (the teleport top laner, which can create a 5v4) and use it. But Wickd never got a good chance to use Teleport - that isn't his fault its a strategical error from the team. And as someone said, losing that first dragon uncontested when you have the toplaner with teleport is an inexcusable mistake. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:00 wei2coolman wrote: Also, he blind picked trundle, and then SK picks Renekton, which stomps trundle early game. Then Freddy snowballed it really hard with 2 dblades + dshield I disagree, I think that Trundle beats Renekton or at least goes even o.o | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:01 Redox wrote: Or go for Dragon or at least defend dragon while having teleport on top laner. Rotations and objective control were nonexistent again, just giving everythign away. once the first real fight started they were already too far behind. It seems like Alliance has no shotcalling at all. Blaming it on individual players is inapproproate here. He couldn't do shit after dive. He already had pretty bad match up and after dive his tower was 50%, so he couldn't tp anyway. Wickd stayed to long in lane. If he back earlier he would survive gank. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:04 Amethyst21 wrote: Yeah I'm not blaming Wickd - Alliance as a team has to realize that their top lane isn't going to win 1v1, barring something strange happening - so they needed to take their advantage (the teleport top laner, which can create a 5v4) and use it. But Wickd never got a good chance to use Teleport - that isn't his fault its a strategical error from the team. And as someone said, losing that first dragon uncontested when you have the toplaner with teleport is an inexcusable mistake. Hear hear. Not having the best map control with double sightstone is inexcusable too. Even if you are Lee Sin, save 1 or 2 wards for your W jump, use the rest. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:03 Redox wrote: If the all-star games again has influence on worlds spots I will rage so hard. I will actually be tempted to not watch. Some riot guy said that no team gets a bye to next round but no idea about additional teams. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:05 Shikyo wrote: I disagree, I think that Trundle beats Renekton or at least goes even o.o Trundle vs renekton isn't bad for trundle but renekton can snowball it hard, catching him not backed with 2 dblades + svenskeren's gank caused top to get out of control. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:04 Amethyst21 wrote: Yeah I'm not blaming Wickd - Alliance as a team has to realize that their top lane isn't going to win 1v1, barring something strange happening - so they needed to take their advantage (the teleport top laner, which can create a 5v4) and use it. But Wickd never got a good chance to use Teleport - that isn't his fault its a strategical error from the team. And as someone said, losing that first dragon uncontested when you have the toplaner with teleport is an inexcusable mistake. And when they wanted to contest the next dragon after that one they came too late and again gave it away and additionally a tower without even fighting, simply by being in the wrong position. It is hard to believe that the map control of such experienced players can be this bad. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:05 Shikyo wrote: I disagree, I think that Trundle beats Renekton or at least goes even o.o if Renekton blindly rushes tank, then Trundle beats it post 6. But if you watch that lane phase, freddy was really smart, ran 2 dblade + dshield, which snowballed the early game. The renekton to beat trundle in that lane needs to build BotRK/Hydra, as first item, but Freddy did it with doran's items, and snowballed it just hard enough that he can start building tank, to be relevant in teamfight, but not get wrekt by trundle. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:06 Fusilero wrote: Trundle vs renekton isn't bad for trundle but renekton can snowball it hard, catching him not backed with 2 dblades + svenskeren's gank caused top to get out of control. Well obviously but that's a decisionmaking-related mistake that has nothing to do with the champion pick | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:04 Amethyst21 wrote: Yeah I'm not blaming Wickd - Alliance as a team has to realize that their top lane isn't going to win 1v1, barring something strange happening - so they needed to take their advantage (the teleport top laner, which can create a 5v4) and use it. But Wickd never got a good chance to use Teleport - that isn't his fault its a strategical error from the team. And as someone said, losing that first dragon uncontested when you have the toplaner with teleport is an inexcusable mistake. Yeah, they seem to get "out-strategized" a lot. Yesterday when Wickd did his dumb Malphite build it overshadowed a lot of things out of Wickd's control. They picked Malphite into Trundle when Renekton was open (which Wickd can play, and as we saw, does fine against Trundle). Then they lane-swapped, putting Malphite into a 2v1 in botlane against a Jinx. Finally, they picked Nunu and then didn't go for any early buff steals or weird pressure. They desperately need an analyst or a coach. | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
The problem wasn't really the winner getting an extra spot (I don't think anyone would protest Korea having 3 spots, especially since the 3rd spot was SKT, who absolutely deserved their chance to prove themselves the best in the world), but rather that the last place at all stars, EU, did not get a seed into the Ro8 like the other regions. That said, I believe Riot said that this year, there would be no direct seeds into the bracket stage, so that might not be an issue again. | ||
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