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On January 17 2014 09:19 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 17 2014 09:17 mr_tolkien wrote:On January 17 2014 09:16 snow2.0 wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
sOAZ, Jankos, Alex/Overpow, Rekkles and Vander - team of the week.
Want to put up Celaver, but Rekkles was too good. Even better than Genja.
Darien is close, but sOAZ basically carried Fnatic with Rekkles.
I like Overpow, but Gambit with 3-1 has to have someone in team of the week i guess.
I think darien deserves a spot for the warwick top. They even admitted themselves that they dont consider it a serious pick, and he just goes and pulls it off, going even cs through early to lategame with top tier picks and rolling through teams. Don't forget the builds as well. I think he's the only player in any serious game who's bought Wits end. Outside of that Lucian player ofc. Forg1ven too next level even for Darien. Wit's end is just too good for Warwick, you're buying it almost always. It's equally good on Shyvana yet nobody buys it because it's assumed that you're not allowed to buy damage as solo top.
But like every shyvanna buys bork
bork is damage
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On January 17 2014 09:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:17 Nitan wrote:
Alliance has to lose 3 more games to match the S3 CW's winless record right? 5 :D
Right now, i have full confidence they can do it haha.
They should win vs SK or Millenium, but they have shown previously that they are more than ready to outplay themselves.
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On January 17 2014 09:17 beefhamburger wrote:
I think Alliance is the like CLG of EU. Great mechanical players but no direction at all outside of lane.
You could say they're CLG.EU.
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On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one.
Worst troll 2014.0/10
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On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one.
Yeah sure. I bet you would have been the first one to scold them for the "retarded call" if they had gone for the finish and had failed.
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On January 17 2014 09:17 nafta wrote:
If you think about it alliance just don't have that one person who rallies the team when losing.They just play like 5 players instead of 1 team.
they didnt have anyone rallying them when they were winning either, since they were crushing lane pretty hard, and then just fell apart during a dragon fight.
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On January 17 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Yeah sure. I bet you would have been the first one to scold them for the "retarded call" if they had gone for the finish and had failed.
Not really, they've struggled like a whale on the coast until ROC made that chain of mistakes, so it was nowhere near in the air that they could actually overcome them without lucky events like that. After 10 lost team fights in a row, you kinda know that.
Butthurt Alliance fans are almost as nice as TSM ones, so whatever. If you are satisfied with their choice, I'm not opposed to it, I mean, they almost managed to chain two ultimates with gigantic cast range. Emphasis on almost.
On January 17 2014 09:21 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Worst troll 2014.0/10
Nafta having the same quality arguements as always. Looking forward the NA LCS tomorrow, lol.
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On January 17 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Yeah sure. I bet you would have been the first one to scold them for the "retarded call" if they had gone for the finish and had failed.
They had like 40 seconds on death timers, and I'm pretty sure most people would've said that was their big chance to win the game.
If they messed that up, if anyone called it a bad call, it would've been because of how they played it, not because they made that call.
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On January 17 2014 09:24 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Yeah sure. I bet you would have been the first one to scold them for the "retarded call" if they had gone for the finish and had failed. Not really, they've struggled like a whale on the coast until ROC made that chain of mistakes, so it was nowhere near in the air that they could actually overcome them without lucky events like that. After 10 lost team fights in a row, you kinda know that. Butthurt Alliance fans are almost as nice as TSM ones, so whatever. If you are satisfied with their choice, I'm not opposed to it, I mean, they almost managed to chain two ultimates with gigantic cast range. Emphasis on almost. Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:21 nafta wrote:On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Worst troll 2014.0/10 Nafta having the same quality arguements as always. Looking forward the NA LCS tomorrow, lol.
Wait you were actually serious?LOL
How does not trying to end 5v3 show confidence?ROFL
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wits end isnt built on shyvana because she already has a huge problem sticking to people, BOTKR is the best sticking item so thats why everyone bought it
darien even went gauntlet as well
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On January 17 2014 09:25 fantasticoranges wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Yeah sure. I bet you would have been the first one to scold them for the "retarded call" if they had gone for the finish and had failed. They had like 40 seconds on death timers, and I'm pretty sure most people would've said that was their big chance to win the game. If they messed that up, if anyone called it a bad call, it would've been because of how they played it, not because they made that call.
Exactly, I was actually already disappointed, because I gave them the win in my head when they were pushing, cuz I cheered for the 0-4. Then I saw them turn back, just to see them make the same awful plays and positionings again, that has been chipping away on them the whole game long.
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On January 17 2014 09:25 fantasticoranges wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Yeah sure. I bet you would have been the first one to scold them for the "retarded call" if they had gone for the finish and had failed. They had like 40 seconds on death timers, and I'm pretty sure most people would've said that was their big chance to win the game. If they messed that up, if anyone called it a bad call, it would've been because of how they played it, not because they made that call.
Except in these situations "kinda 40 seconds" and the sub 30 seconds it was in reality on one champion is kinda a big difference. How would they have dived Caitlyn behind the nexus turrets without any ultimates to finsih her off in the few seconds they had?
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I'm 99% sure Montecristo cursed Alliance when he put them in his top 10 of his power rankings.
Alliance needs a coach/analyst right away (in before Nyph retires to be the analyst and they bring back Kazmitch)
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I think i started to understand Carnivorous Sheep
Froggen is overrated. He just abused Anivia on S2.
high five CS.
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God, guys.
There were Lee Sin, Morgana and Caitlyn alive, with Doctor Mundo and Gragas with ~25 seconds respawns.
It's nuff wave clear and sustain to stay alive before Dr. Mundo and Gragas can respawn and just instakill everyone on [A] side because they don't have any ults.
After it, usually, other Nexus is falling.
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On January 17 2014 09:32 Mensol wrote:
I think i started to understand Carnivorous Sheep
Froggen is overrated. He just abused Anivia on S2.
high five CS.
i think he is great during laning but his team fight/roam is lacking
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On January 17 2014 09:27 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:24 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Yeah sure. I bet you would have been the first one to scold them for the "retarded call" if they had gone for the finish and had failed. Not really, they've struggled like a whale on the coast until ROC made that chain of mistakes, so it was nowhere near in the air that they could actually overcome them without lucky events like that. After 10 lost team fights in a row, you kinda know that. Butthurt Alliance fans are almost as nice as TSM ones, so whatever. If you are satisfied with their choice, I'm not opposed to it, I mean, they almost managed to chain two ultimates with gigantic cast range. Emphasis on almost. On January 17 2014 09:21 nafta wrote:On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Worst troll 2014.0/10 Nafta having the same quality arguements as always. Looking forward the NA LCS tomorrow, lol. Wait you were actually serious?LOL How does not trying to end 5v3 show confidence?ROFL
They had full hp, and Caitlyn barely tickled them when she had no frontline to grant her non-stop AAs. I'm fairly positive they could've won that but even if they failed, it would've been damn close.
But to answer your question: they had the opportunity to finish. Was that 100%? No, it was not. Was it a double or nothing? Pretty much. Maybe ROC couldn't have pushed them back even if Alliance got aced, but free baron and towers/inhibs for sure, which is gg. Anyway, they said no to the possible game winning play. Now, if you do something like that, you have to have a reason for it. Let's say the tables were turned, and ROC could've done the same at the opposite side. If they actually tried it, I would've called them crazy, because they were winning every single teamfight and skirmish, so there was absolutely no reason for them to risk something like that. If they already won a 100 fights, they'll probably won a 100 more, because their lead has been snowballed constantly, and Alliance looked worse and worse as the time passed. Now back to Alliance's perspective: what on Earth could they possible hope for? Wicked learns to fight? Froggen will magically do something other than being overshadowed by everyone in the game? Vi's or Leona's (or both) ultimates won't get blackshielded?
They either had confidence they will have a better chance at winning if they not risk going for the finish right there, which means they had confidence in a.) they being better than their opponent b.) their opponent will make more mistakes like this.
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On January 17 2014 09:30 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:25 fantasticoranges wrote:On January 17 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Yeah sure. I bet you would have been the first one to scold them for the "retarded call" if they had gone for the finish and had failed. They had like 40 seconds on death timers, and I'm pretty sure most people would've said that was their big chance to win the game. If they messed that up, if anyone called it a bad call, it would've been because of how they played it, not because they made that call. Except in these situations "kinda 40 seconds" and the sub 30 seconds it was in reality on one champion is kinda a big difference. How would they have dived Caitlyn behind the nexus turrets without any ultimates to finsih her off in the few seconds they had?
They don't have to dive her, Mundo walks into her face, and 4 people with a rich ADC (it was around the 40minutes mark, right?) can tear two towers apart easily. They had full hp, and Cait had no protection whatsoever. Winning was definetly possible there.
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On January 17 2014 09:34 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 09:27 nafta wrote:On January 17 2014 09:24 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Yeah sure. I bet you would have been the first one to scold them for the "retarded call" if they had gone for the finish and had failed. Not really, they've struggled like a whale on the coast until ROC made that chain of mistakes, so it was nowhere near in the air that they could actually overcome them without lucky events like that. After 10 lost team fights in a row, you kinda know that. Butthurt Alliance fans are almost as nice as TSM ones, so whatever. If you are satisfied with their choice, I'm not opposed to it, I mean, they almost managed to chain two ultimates with gigantic cast range. Emphasis on almost. On January 17 2014 09:21 nafta wrote:On January 17 2014 09:18 Volband wrote:On January 17 2014 09:14 Redox wrote:On January 17 2014 09:12 Volband wrote:
I like how Alliance had the confidence that they felt they don't have to do double or nothing when they could finish the game. They are not just bad, but delusional too.
Lol you are incredibly delusional when you were able to spot confidence anywhere in Alliance's play. So what do you call that when you don't go for the finish, because you believe you'll not only have another shot at winning a game, but probably an even more preferrable one? It's either faith or confidence, and I did not see many crosses hanging aroung their necks, so I assume the latter. There's still the joker option that they are stupdid and didn't even realize they could finish, but I doubt that one. Worst troll 2014.0/10 Nafta having the same quality arguements as always. Looking forward the NA LCS tomorrow, lol. Wait you were actually serious?LOL How does not trying to end 5v3 show confidence?ROFL They had full hp, and Caitlyn barely tickeled them when she had no frontline to grant her non-stop AAs. I'm fairly positive they could've won that but even if they failed, it would've been damn close. But to answer your question: they had the opportunity to finish. Was that 100%? No, it was not. Was it a double or nothing? Pretty much. Maybe ROC couldn't have pushed them back even if Alliance got aced, but free baron and towers/inhibs for sure, which is gg. Anyway, they said no to the possible game winning play. Now, if you do something like that, you have to have a reason for it. Let's say the tables were turned, and ROC could've done the same at the opposite side. If they actually tried it, I would've called them crazy, because they were winning every single teamfight and skirmish, so there was absolutely no reason for them to risk something like that. If they already won a 100 fights, they'll probably won a 100 more, because their lead has been snowballed constantly, and Alliance looked worse and worse as the time passed. Now back to Alliance's perspective: what on Earth could they possible hope for? Wicked learns to fight? Froggen will magically do something other than being overshadowed by everyone in the game? Vi's or Leona's (or both) ultimates won't get blackshielded? They eithe had confidence they will have a better chance at winning if they not risk going for the finish right there, which means they had confidence in a.) they being better than their opponent b.) their opponent will make more mistakes like this.
I'm pretty sure 2-3 people were below half hp. Unless my memory fails me.
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I think [A] could have done it, too. Definitely woth trying in their situation.
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