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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On December 23 2013 05:55 Redox wrote: Stop talking nonsense. By all available accounts Fnatic practiced hard, dunno why you think you can claim smth different. Yeah C9 deserved that very well played by them, not only where they better at team engagements but they also simply outpicked Fnatic. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 23 2013 05:55 Redox wrote: Stop talking nonsense. By all available accounts Fnatic practiced hard, dunno why you think you can claim smth different. Yeah, this doesn't mean that C9 is definitively better than Fnatic. They just came to play today and the current meta doesn't favor sOAZ. A lot of factors involved. I mean C9's duo lane get wrecked in lane, they just didn't feed enough to be a liability, | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On December 23 2013 05:57 Doctorbeat wrote: Xpecial not being passive aggressive for once on Twitter: Preach the truth bro (pls don't name us weakest region ;..; ) To be fair he was probably trying to be passive aggressive, but then cloud9 had to go outplay fnatic again and make it seem the kind of tweet a normal person would make, | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
Unless Cog surprises us all by being clutch again, but then again 6-20 NACL record too stronk for me to be[le]ive too hard. Crs's team just strikes me as all sorts of meh outside of Quas top. Vooby mid, Cop/Zekent bot, and IWD (was never impressive when he was on Dig :\ ). We'll see. On December 23 2013 05:58 onlywonderboy wrote: Yeah, this doesn't mean that C9 is definitively better than Fnatic. They just came to play today and the current meta doesn't favor sOAZ. A lot of factors involved. I mean C9's duo lane get wrecked in lane, they just didn't feed enough to be a liability, Lemon/Sneaky is still a very weak bot lane, but Sneaky isn't a Zuna in terms of positioning at the very least. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9122 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
Soaz played like shit end of story no meta excuses needed. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On December 23 2013 05:58 onlywonderboy wrote: Yeah, this doesn't mean that C9 is definitively better than Fnatic. They just came to play today and the current meta doesn't favor sOAZ. A lot of factors involved. I mean C9's duo lane get wrecked in lane, they just didn't feed enough to be a liability, Yeah in EU this seems to be the season of Wickd and Darien. Fantastic bruisers, that will make the difference in late game teamfights. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On December 23 2013 05:59 Lord Tolkien wrote: Welp, time for Crs to win their easy win. Unless Cog surprises us all by being clutch again, but then again 6-20 NACL record too stronk for me to be[le]ive too hard. Crs's team just strikes me as all sorts of meh outside of Quas top. Vooby mid, Cop/Zekent bot, and IWD (was never impressive when he was on Dig :\ ). We'll see. IWD is better than St.V was tho. Vooby mid is meh, and losing Edward might pose a huge loss for Curse. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On December 23 2013 06:00 Doctorbeat wrote: IWD is better than St.V was tho. Vooby mid is meh, and losing Edward might pose a huge loss for Curse. IWD has worse game sense than Saint imo. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On December 23 2013 05:59 Dan HH wrote: 5 clean 2-0's, wish we had some closer games. I hope next time they make an actual bracket cause the power rankings change too much between the Summer Split and December to match them up like this Arbitrary system is arbitrary. It's a showmatch, plain and simple. If anything, the fact that everyone is so riled up about something like BotA says a lot. The real winner is obv Riot. There's going to be a lot of hype going into 2014 and the LCS Spring Split. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On December 23 2013 05:58 onlywonderboy wrote: Yeah, this doesn't mean that C9 is definitively better than Fnatic. They just came to play today and the current meta doesn't favor sOAZ. A lot of factors involved. I mean C9's duo lane get wrecked in lane, they just didn't feed enough to be a liability, To be fair though, "the current meta" isn't a very good excuse. If you want to talk about who's better at a game, then you have to take the meta into account. Adapting to the meta is a large part of what makes a good team a good team. Saying "we're better at the game, you only won because we were playing the wrong game" is kinda dumb. At the end of the day what matters in competition is who brought the best play on the current day on the current patch, and today C9 was better then Fnatic. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On December 23 2013 06:00 Slusher wrote: I don't understand blaming the meta for a guy known for playing a TON of champions sucking. Soaz played like shit end of story no meta excuses needed. Though i agree he played poorly i found Cyanide playing even worse, and Xpeke aswell. Why is there so much focus on sOAZ ? | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On December 23 2013 06:02 Lysanias wrote: Though i agree he played poorly i found Cyanide playing even worse, and Xpeke aswell. Why is there so much focus on sOAZ ? Still not enough focus on how bad Yellowstar is at Thresh. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 23 2013 06:01 Slow Motion wrote: IWD has worse game sense than Saint imo. Better Smites though! huehue | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9122 Posts
On December 23 2013 06:01 krndandaman wrote: what matchups would you guys have made? I guess gambit vs c9 fnatic vs tsm atn vs XDG lemondogs vs dig I'd make it like this: Round 1: DIG vs ATN - 4th vs 5th [A] vs CLG - 4th vs 5th Quarterfinals: Fnatic vs DIG/ATN - 1st vs 4th/5th TSM vs Gambit - 2nd vs 3rd LD vs XDG - 2nd vs 3rd C9 vs [A]/CLG - 1st vs 4th/5th etc | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On December 23 2013 06:01 NeoIllusions wrote: Arbitrary system is arbitrary. It's a showmatch, plain and simple. If anything, the fact that everyone is so riled up about something like BotA says a lot. The real winner is obv Riot. There's going to be a lot of hype going into 2014 and the LCS Spring Split. There should really be more intercontinental play though... Just look at the hype, this needs to happen more than twice a year. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 23 2013 06:02 Slow Motion wrote: Still not enough focus on how bad Yellowstar is at Thresh. At least xPeke and their duo lane did well in the early laning phase (establishing a CS lead). sOAZ just went even and didn't contribute much to team fights. They fell apart in the mid game. | ||
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