EPT[IEM] Cologne 2013 Discussion - Page 25
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9135 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On November 24 2013 20:57 Lord Tolkien wrote: Since when was that surprising?  He's only shined when he can play on utility ADCs and abuse Ashe or Varus/Zyra. He didn't even shine really. Look at actual good ADCs. ADCs should have by far the best KDA ratio but sneaky's has always been underwhelming despite his team being dominant in LCS. He's pretty mediocre in every aspect tbh. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:05 Kinie wrote: I'm starting to wonder if c9 was just rusty due to lack of practice or if its a case of big fish, small pond in NA scene. Personally hoping its the former, as I feel like c9 still can go toe to toe with most international teams. its just that mistakes they make ate more readily punished in international fights compared to NA scene from LCS summer. C9 is the TSM of last year, winning everything back in the states, but not at the level to compete with EU. It could be mental tho. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:06 Dan HH wrote: If you're bored during the downtime between the games, check out the LPL summer final, it's currently the 5th and last game of the series: http://www.azubu.tv/channel/detail.do?cn_id=2847250937001# lpl is on azubu? Since when I've been hooking up to Chinese sites for months. | ||
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skykh
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:06 -Zoda- wrote:*snip* That cockiness. Rooting against Fnatic naow. On November 24 2013 21:06 Itsmedudeman wrote: He didn't even shine really. Look at actual good ADCs. ADCs should have by far the best KDA ratio but sneaky's has always been underwhelming despite his team being dominant in LCS. He's pretty mediocre in every aspect tbh. Does that mean Cop is best ADC NA? Best KDA NA. :O | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:05 Kinie wrote: I'm starting to wonder if c9 was just rusty due to lack of practice or if its a case of big fish, small pond in NA scene. Personally hoping its the former, as I feel like c9 still can go toe to toe with most international teams. its just that mistakes they make ate more readily punished in international fights compared to NA scene from LCS summer. It is big fish small pond. C9 in some aspects are better than most NA teams (Shotcalling, rotation etc) but their laners are nowhere near an international standard. TSM is the only team that I think can challenge EU/KR/CN from NA next season (Barring any further roster changes). | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9135 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:07 Fusilero wrote: lpl is on azubu? Since when I've been hooking up to Chinese sites for months. Since today, heh. I do hope they keep it for next season | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
League tournaments need more games in any case. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:07 schmutttt wrote: It is big fish small pond. C9 in some aspects are better than most NA teams (Shotcalling, rotation etc) but their laners are nowhere near an international standard. TSM is the only team that I think can challenge EU/KR/CN from NA next season (Barring any further roster changes). At present, I'd tentatively say a bit of both. We'll have to see for CLG vs. Fnatic. Their rotations and coordination wasn't on point compared to before. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:07 schmutttt wrote: It is big fish small pond. C9 in some aspects are better than most NA teams (Shotcalling, rotation etc) but their laners are nowhere near an international standard. TSM is the only team that I think can challenge EU/KR/CN from NA next season (Barring any further roster changes). XDG is like the opposite, laning wise they can stand up to most but their shotcalling and rotation are beyond terrible. Both of their wins came from shitting on C9's lanes so hard and snowballing off it and they would have been 3-1 vs C9 if it wasn't for throwbargains. | ||
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Azelja
Japan762 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:06 Itsmedudeman wrote: He didn't even shine really. Look at actual good ADCs. ADCs should have by far the best KDA ratio but sneaky's has always been underwhelming despite his team being dominant in LCS. He's pretty mediocre in every aspect tbh. He definitely isn't one of the better ADCs but his "underwhelming" KDA and stuff like that... him and Lemon have pretty much been the Utility of the team, whereas other ADs had more of a carry role intended for them. He was a marksman, not an ADCarry. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:04 bokchoi wrote: i find this picture hilarious cuz kr won worlds and cn was in the finals and not EU. eu mad. I just find that picture hilarious because of Soaz face, Alex smug look with the hilarious captions. the super lowquality 240p pictures of diamond and the other gambit members is the cherry on top. ( it was also mainly created in response to dandy's statement) | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:09 Fusilero wrote: XDG is like the opposite, laning wise they can stand up to most but their shotcalling and rotation are beyond terrible. Both of their wins came form shitting on C9's lanes so hard and snowballing off it and they would have been 3-1 vs C9 if it wasn't for throwbargains. I think Vulcun are really strong individually excluding Zuna and if they could fix the strategy side of the game (Which is easier then improving people individually) they'd be really strong. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:04 bokchoi wrote: i find this picture hilarious cuz kr won worlds and cn was in the finals and not EU. eu mad. Lol, don't take it too seriously that some koreans talked shit and it blew on their face >_> CLG, show us the NA potential! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:04 Fusilero wrote: C9 have masterfully turned around the trainwreck of an interview with balls/lemonation into something positive for their brand. Watching the interview with the automatic google captions was already very positive | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On November 24 2013 21:11 daemir wrote: Lol, don't take it too seriously that some koreans talked shit and it blew on their face >_> CLG, show us the NA potential! "Potential", yes. CLG always has spades of that. I kid, I kid. They're actually much more put together this iteration then previous ones. On November 24 2013 21:10 schmutttt wrote: I think Vulcun are really strong individually excluding Zuna and if they could fix the strategy side of the game (Which is easier then improving people individually) they'd be really strong. The question for XD.GG (god I hate their new name) has always been not fucking throwing their tremendous early game leads in the mid/late game, but the throwbargains are just too attractive. On November 24 2013 21:13 Beyonder wrote: Balls is a great guy. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2KQaS89.gif) | ||
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