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-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 24 2013 12:06 GMT
#481
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9201 Posts
November 24 2013 12:06 GMT
#482
If you're bored during the downtime between the games, check out the LPL summer final, it's currently the 5th and last game of the series: http://www.azubu.tv/channel/detail.do?cn_id=2847250937001#
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 24 2013 12:06 GMT
#483
On November 24 2013 20:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:54 Vonthin wrote:
Sneaky being underwhelming as fuck plus being outpicked both games lost the series for them. Genja played so fucking good and removed his handicap by building good items for once. I can't fucking wait for the finals to see new Genja/Eddy vs either Fnatic/CLG botlane gonna be so sick

Since when was that surprising?

He's only shined when he can play on utility ADCs and abuse Ashe or Varus/Zyra.

He didn't even shine really. Look at actual good ADCs. ADCs should have by far the best KDA ratio but sneaky's has always been underwhelming despite his team being dominant in LCS. He's pretty mediocre in every aspect tbh.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 12:08:26
November 24 2013 12:07 GMT
#484
On November 24 2013 21:05 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:02 Shiznick wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

honestly a terrible image in retrospect considering how korea won worlds, but in other news, c9 1 for 5 in international games, yikes.


I'm starting to wonder if c9 was just rusty due to lack of practice or if its a case of big fish, small pond in NA scene. Personally hoping its the former, as I feel like c9 still can go toe to toe with most international teams. its just that mistakes they make ate more readily punished in international fights compared to NA scene from LCS summer.

C9 is the TSM of last year, winning everything back in the states, but not at the level to compete with EU.
It could be mental tho.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 24 2013 12:07 GMT
#485
On November 24 2013 21:06 Dan HH wrote:
If you're bored during the downtime between the games, check out the LPL summer final, it's currently the 5th and last game of the series: http://www.azubu.tv/channel/detail.do?cn_id=2847250937001#

lpl is on azubu? Since when I've been hooking up to Chinese sites for months.
Glorious SEA doto
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
November 24 2013 12:07 GMT
#486
Looks like the scrims vs tsm payed off.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 12:08:21
November 24 2013 12:07 GMT
#487
On November 24 2013 21:06 -Zoda- wrote:*snip*

That cockiness.

Rooting against Fnatic naow.

On November 24 2013 21:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 24 2013 20:54 Vonthin wrote:
Sneaky being underwhelming as fuck plus being outpicked both games lost the series for them. Genja played so fucking good and removed his handicap by building good items for once. I can't fucking wait for the finals to see new Genja/Eddy vs either Fnatic/CLG botlane gonna be so sick

Since when was that surprising?

He's only shined when he can play on utility ADCs and abuse Ashe or Varus/Zyra.

He didn't even shine really. Look at actual good ADCs. ADCs should have by far the best KDA ratio but sneaky's has always been underwhelming despite his team being dominant in LCS. He's pretty mediocre in every aspect tbh.

Does that mean Cop is best ADC NA? Best KDA NA. :O
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 24 2013 12:07 GMT
#488
On November 24 2013 21:05 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:02 Shiznick wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

honestly a terrible image in retrospect considering how korea won worlds, but in other news, c9 1 for 5 in international games, yikes.


I'm starting to wonder if c9 was just rusty due to lack of practice or if its a case of big fish, small pond in NA scene. Personally hoping its the former, as I feel like c9 still can go toe to toe with most international teams. its just that mistakes they make ate more readily punished in international fights compared to NA scene from LCS summer.


It is big fish small pond.

C9 in some aspects are better than most NA teams (Shotcalling, rotation etc) but their laners are nowhere near an international standard.

TSM is the only team that I think can challenge EU/KR/CN from NA next season (Barring any further roster changes).
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
November 24 2013 12:08 GMT
#489
Sneaky looks a bit lost on these new ads, I get that they are the "current ad meta" but maybe putting him on utility adc might have worked better
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9201 Posts
November 24 2013 12:08 GMT
#490
On November 24 2013 21:07 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:06 Dan HH wrote:
If you're bored during the downtime between the games, check out the LPL summer final, it's currently the 5th and last game of the series: http://www.azubu.tv/channel/detail.do?cn_id=2847250937001#

lpl is on azubu? Since when I've been hooking up to Chinese sites for months.

Since today, heh. I do hope they keep it for next season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 12:09:11
November 24 2013 12:08 GMT
#491
C9 was a little unlucky to get Gambit first. I think they would have had good chances at revenge vs Fnatic. Feels a little like worlds with C9 getting seeded directly into their loss. :D

League tournaments need more games in any case.
Off-season = best season
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 12:10:32
November 24 2013 12:09 GMT
#492
On November 24 2013 21:07 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:05 Kinie wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:02 Shiznick wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

honestly a terrible image in retrospect considering how korea won worlds, but in other news, c9 1 for 5 in international games, yikes.


I'm starting to wonder if c9 was just rusty due to lack of practice or if its a case of big fish, small pond in NA scene. Personally hoping its the former, as I feel like c9 still can go toe to toe with most international teams. its just that mistakes they make ate more readily punished in international fights compared to NA scene from LCS summer.


It is big fish small pond.

C9 in some aspects are better than most NA teams (Shotcalling, rotation etc) but their laners are nowhere near an international standard.

TSM is the only team that I think can challenge EU/KR/CN from NA next season (Barring any further roster changes).

At present, I'd tentatively say a bit of both. We'll have to see for CLG vs. Fnatic. Their rotations and coordination wasn't on point compared to before.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 12:10:28
November 24 2013 12:09 GMT
#493
On November 24 2013 21:07 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:05 Kinie wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:02 Shiznick wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

honestly a terrible image in retrospect considering how korea won worlds, but in other news, c9 1 for 5 in international games, yikes.


I'm starting to wonder if c9 was just rusty due to lack of practice or if its a case of big fish, small pond in NA scene. Personally hoping its the former, as I feel like c9 still can go toe to toe with most international teams. its just that mistakes they make ate more readily punished in international fights compared to NA scene from LCS summer.


It is big fish small pond.

C9 in some aspects are better than most NA teams (Shotcalling, rotation etc) but their laners are nowhere near an international standard.

TSM is the only team that I think can challenge EU/KR/CN from NA next season (Barring any further roster changes).

XDG is like the opposite, laning wise they can stand up to most but their shotcalling and rotation are beyond terrible. Both of their wins came from shitting on C9's lanes so hard and snowballing off it and they would have been 3-1 vs C9 if it wasn't for throwbargains.
Glorious SEA doto
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
November 24 2013 12:10 GMT
#494
On November 24 2013 21:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 24 2013 20:54 Vonthin wrote:
Sneaky being underwhelming as fuck plus being outpicked both games lost the series for them. Genja played so fucking good and removed his handicap by building good items for once. I can't fucking wait for the finals to see new Genja/Eddy vs either Fnatic/CLG botlane gonna be so sick

Since when was that surprising?

He's only shined when he can play on utility ADCs and abuse Ashe or Varus/Zyra.

He didn't even shine really. Look at actual good ADCs. ADCs should have by far the best KDA ratio but sneaky's has always been underwhelming despite his team being dominant in LCS. He's pretty mediocre in every aspect tbh.


He definitely isn't one of the better ADCs but his "underwhelming" KDA and stuff like that... him and Lemon have pretty much been the Utility of the team, whereas other ADs had more of a carry role intended for them. He was a marksman, not an ADCarry.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 24 2013 12:10 GMT
#495
On November 24 2013 21:04 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


i find this picture hilarious cuz kr won worlds and cn was in the finals and not EU. eu mad.


I just find that picture hilarious because of Soaz face, Alex smug look with the hilarious captions. the super lowquality 240p pictures of diamond and the other gambit members is the cherry on top. ( it was also mainly created in response to dandy's statement)
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 24 2013 12:10 GMT
#496
On November 24 2013 21:09 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:07 schmutttt wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:05 Kinie wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:02 Shiznick wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

honestly a terrible image in retrospect considering how korea won worlds, but in other news, c9 1 for 5 in international games, yikes.


I'm starting to wonder if c9 was just rusty due to lack of practice or if its a case of big fish, small pond in NA scene. Personally hoping its the former, as I feel like c9 still can go toe to toe with most international teams. its just that mistakes they make ate more readily punished in international fights compared to NA scene from LCS summer.


It is big fish small pond.

C9 in some aspects are better than most NA teams (Shotcalling, rotation etc) but their laners are nowhere near an international standard.

TSM is the only team that I think can challenge EU/KR/CN from NA next season (Barring any further roster changes).

XDG is like the opposite, laning wise they can stand up to most but their shotcalling and rotation are beyond terrible. Both of their wins came form shitting on C9's lanes so hard and snowballing off it and they would have been 3-1 vs C9 if it wasn't for throwbargains.


I think Vulcun are really strong individually excluding Zuna and if they could fix the strategy side of the game (Which is easier then improving people individually) they'd be really strong.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 24 2013 12:11 GMT
#497
On November 24 2013 21:04 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


i find this picture hilarious cuz kr won worlds and cn was in the finals and not EU. eu mad.


Lol, don't take it too seriously that some koreans talked shit and it blew on their face >_>


CLG, show us the NA potential!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 24 2013 12:11 GMT
#498
On November 24 2013 21:04 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:02 Beyonder wrote:
That commercial.. the zoom in on balls' mouth always freaks me out hahahaah

C9 have masterfully turned around the trainwreck of an interview with balls/lemonation into something positive for their brand.

Watching the interview with the automatic google captions was already very positive
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
November 24 2013 12:13 GMT
#499
Balls is a great guy.
Moderator
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 12:15:15
November 24 2013 12:14 GMT
#500
On November 24 2013 21:11 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:04 bokchoi wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


i find this picture hilarious cuz kr won worlds and cn was in the finals and not EU. eu mad.


Lol, don't take it too seriously that some koreans talked shit and it blew on their face >_>

CLG, show us the NA potential!

"Potential", yes. CLG always has spades of that.

I kid, I kid. They're actually much more put together this iteration then previous ones.

On November 24 2013 21:10 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 21:09 Fusilero wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:07 schmutttt wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:05 Kinie wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:02 Shiznick wrote:
On November 24 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

honestly a terrible image in retrospect considering how korea won worlds, but in other news, c9 1 for 5 in international games, yikes.


I'm starting to wonder if c9 was just rusty due to lack of practice or if its a case of big fish, small pond in NA scene. Personally hoping its the former, as I feel like c9 still can go toe to toe with most international teams. its just that mistakes they make ate more readily punished in international fights compared to NA scene from LCS summer.


It is big fish small pond.

C9 in some aspects are better than most NA teams (Shotcalling, rotation etc) but their laners are nowhere near an international standard.

TSM is the only team that I think can challenge EU/KR/CN from NA next season (Barring any further roster changes).

XDG is like the opposite, laning wise they can stand up to most but their shotcalling and rotation are beyond terrible. Both of their wins came form shitting on C9's lanes so hard and snowballing off it and they would have been 3-1 vs C9 if it wasn't for throwbargains.


I think Vulcun are really strong individually excluding Zuna and if they could fix the strategy side of the game (Which is easier then improving people individually) they'd be really strong.

The question for XD.GG (god I hate their new name) has always been not fucking throwing their tremendous early game leads in the mid/late game, but the throwbargains are just too attractive.

On November 24 2013 21:13 Beyonder wrote:
Balls is a great guy.

[image loading]
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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