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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 24 2013 11:50 GMT
#441
I do have a theory that his time at curse teaching cop improved his ability to speak to his ADC and he passed on the aggression he taught to cop to genja.
Glorious SEA doto
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9174 Posts
November 24 2013 11:51 GMT
#442
I certainly don't expect C9 to do as well in the next LCS split as they did in the summer one. These 2 lost sets are gonna affect their confidence a lot.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 24 2013 11:51 GMT
#443
It's eerie how those games looked so similar to the ones vs fnatic's in terms of pace. Close game throughout but the european teams just looked to make good trades, stayed even, and won with better late game scaling.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 24 2013 11:51 GMT
#444
On November 24 2013 20:49 Lysanias wrote:
C9 really is descent but it's hard to see how they can go 30-3 in LCS.

C9 didn't look like they were in top form, but no excuses. Some very questionable play.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 24 2013 11:51 GMT
#445
fnatic, crush these nerds
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 11:53:33
November 24 2013 11:51 GMT
#446
On November 24 2013 20:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:
And GG.

Now NA's last hope is CLG.

...whelp, I guess Fnatic wins IEM Cologne, unless CLG has enough potential.

For this tournament Gambit > Fnatic imo. You could see how well prepared they were, picking up new champions etc.

In contrast to that Fnatic ended their extended vacations just a few days ago. I believe Rekkles doesnt even play Jinx and Lucian yet, or at least not at high level.

I am not sure how good CLG are atm though, otherwise I would be tempted to call them favorites against Fnatic.
Off-season = best season
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 24 2013 11:52 GMT
#447
I support CLG but pls EU accept me as a honorary member in any non-CLG games
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 24 2013 11:52 GMT
#448
On November 24 2013 20:51 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:49 Lysanias wrote:
C9 really is descent but it's hard to see how they can go 30-3 in LCS.

C9 didn't look like they were in top form, but no excuses. Some very questionable play.


This is actualy possitive for NA fans, Fnatic has not played together either. I can see CLG beating them.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 24 2013 11:52 GMT
#449
On November 24 2013 20:50 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:48 Numy wrote:
On November 24 2013 20:46 Shikyo wrote:
It's almost like having your entire team be melee without a long-range low cooldown gapcloser is a bad idea against a mobile ADC.


I wonder if C9 have not played together since worlds or something.


Its quite possible, as since worlds happened they streamed for a bit, took a few weeks off and only got back into NA solo q games the past week or two.


It would make hai picking Riven make a lot more sense if that is the case.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 24 2013 11:53 GMT
#450
On November 24 2013 20:51 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:49 Lysanias wrote:
C9 really is descent but it's hard to see how they can go 30-3 in LCS.

C9 didn't look like they were in top form, but no excuses. Some very questionable play.

Their team play looked the same. Their individual play was bad which isn't surprising to me. No one on their team is elite at their role.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 11:55:49
November 24 2013 11:54 GMT
#451
On November 24 2013 20:51 Redox wrote:
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On November 24 2013 20:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:
And GG.

Now NA's last hope is CLG.

...whelp, I guess Fnatic wins IEM Cologne, unless CLG has enough potential.

For this tournament Gambit > Fnatic imo. You could see how well prepared they were, picking up new champions etc.

In contrast to that Fnatic ended their extended vacations just a few days ago. I believe Rekkles doesnt even play Jinx and Lucian yet, or at least not at high level.

...but...but...Fnatic win records! :o

+ Show Spoiler +


Honestly though, Gambit, outside of hilarious Alex Ori whiffs, was pretty damn put together, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did. CLG and Gambit appear to have been the only ones to have gone into this tourney prepared.

On November 24 2013 20:53 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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On November 24 2013 20:51 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 24 2013 20:49 Lysanias wrote:
C9 really is descent but it's hard to see how they can go 30-3 in LCS.

C9 didn't look like they were in top form, but no excuses. Some very questionable play.

Their team play looked the same. Their individual play was bad which isn't surprising to me. No one on their team is elite at their role.

Eh, their coordination and team picks (in particular, didn't adapt to end of S3 meta) were just abit...off. Also, Hai went full SoloQ Game 2. It just speaks of poor prep going into this tourney.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
November 24 2013 11:54 GMT
#452
Gambit on fire, can they be stopped? Gogo, Rush Hour time :D
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 24 2013 11:54 GMT
#453
Sneaky being underwhelming as fuck plus being outpicked both games lost the series for them. Genja played so fucking good and removed his handicap by building good items for once. I can't fucking wait for the finals to see new Genja/Eddy vs either Fnatic/CLG botlane gonna be so sick
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 24 2013 11:56 GMT
#454
Am I the only person who thinks Alex sorta looks like Walshy (Famous Halo player)?
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 11:57:18
November 24 2013 11:57 GMT
#455
On November 24 2013 20:54 Vonthin wrote:
Sneaky being underwhelming as fuck plus being outpicked both games lost the series for them. Genja played so fucking good and removed his handicap by building good items for once. I can't fucking wait for the finals to see new Genja/Eddy vs either Fnatic/CLG botlane gonna be so sick

Since when was that surprising?

He's only shined when he can play on utility ADCs and abuse Ashe or Varus/Zyra.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 11:58:06
November 24 2013 11:57 GMT
#456
Cloud9 disappointing once again.

Gambit still questionably overextending/diving at points. They better clean that up if they wanna beat the winner of CLG vs fnatic

Really impressed with how Genja's been playing. Actually being a carry and putting out damage
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
November 24 2013 11:58 GMT
#457
On November 24 2013 20:57 bokchoi wrote:
the winner of CLG vs fnatic


lol
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 24 2013 11:58 GMT
#458
On November 24 2013 20:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:54 Vonthin wrote:
Sneaky being underwhelming as fuck plus being outpicked both games lost the series for them. Genja played so fucking good and removed his handicap by building good items for once. I can't fucking wait for the finals to see new Genja/Eddy vs either Fnatic/CLG botlane gonna be so sick

Since when was that surprising?

He's only shined when he can play on utility ADCs and abuse Ashe or Varus/Zyra.



It's not surprising to me, its just annoying that people say he is good when almost every other LCS ADC is better than him
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 24 2013 11:58 GMT
#459
On November 24 2013 20:58 ManBaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:57 bokchoi wrote:
the winner of CLG vs fnatic


lol


yeah I was gonna just fnatic, but didn't want to be rude
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 12:01:20
November 24 2013 11:59 GMT
#460
On November 24 2013 20:57 bokchoi wrote:
Really impressed with how Genja's been playing. Actually being a carry and putting out damage

And he hasn't built 4 dorans blades yet!

But no, Edward and Genja has been performing very well, Edward especially. All those fucking Annie stuns.

On November 24 2013 20:58 Vonthin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 24 2013 20:54 Vonthin wrote:
Sneaky being underwhelming as fuck plus being outpicked both games lost the series for them. Genja played so fucking good and removed his handicap by building good items for once. I can't fucking wait for the finals to see new Genja/Eddy vs either Fnatic/CLG botlane gonna be so sick

Since when was that surprising?

He's only shined when he can play on utility ADCs and abuse Ashe or Varus/Zyra.



It's not surprising to me, its just annoying that people say he is good when almost every other LCS ADC is better than him

C9's bot lane has always been their weakest spot (and ironically most critical to team comps, given their tendency to shove the CC/initiation/disengage duty to their bot lane). With a dominating Summer Split record, there's been no pressure on them to improve on their weaknesses. Hopefully this clears up Spring Split (especially with the team disparity shrinking: I have vague hope that maybe Dig will do well, for instance).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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