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Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
November 24 2013 11:00 GMT
#301
On November 24 2013 19:50 Apex wrote:
Gambit really appreciating the Edward addition over Voidle. No offense to Voidle, just that Edward is a clear upgrade here.


his 4 man stun at the 2nd dragon turned the game, it was really even before that.

also hardengage combo works so well with khazix, lissandra is quite useful here. GG looking like alternate early in the season.

although lulu seems a smart pick against that.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 24 2013 11:00 GMT
#302
On November 24 2013 19:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 19:54 Brad` wrote:
If c9 got a real adc player maybe they wouldn't have to avoid the 2v2 matchup like the plague anymore.

It was M5 that swapped.

They could send their duo top.
Forcing the 2v2 seems a good way to make the lucian pick work.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Losthorn
Profile Joined June 2010
Georgia351 Posts
November 24 2013 11:00 GMT
#303
Although Alex was clutch, i feel like Diamond is the real MVP setting up early ganks and locking down buffs.
White-Ra "no need for cinema, just watch special taktiks"
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
November 24 2013 11:01 GMT
#304
I feel like c9's team comp could have been better, either with a champ other than rumble (maybe Vlad or some other AP top laner) or metros not on Nocturne but j4 or another jungled with a good CC. And I think that the lulu pick was OK, but they should have realized that with the kha pick they need hard CC and not lulu, so a champ like Fiddles or Nami would have been better.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 24 2013 11:02 GMT
#305
On November 24 2013 20:00 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 19:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 24 2013 19:54 Brad` wrote:
If c9 got a real adc player maybe they wouldn't have to avoid the 2v2 matchup like the plague anymore.

It was M5 that swapped.

They could send their duo top.
Forcing the 2v2 seems a good way to make the lucian pick work.

Lucian's a lane bully, so it would've, but there were no deep wards (I believe), and swapping by the time Gambit showed at blue would just gimp both lanes at that point.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 24 2013 11:03 GMT
#306
On November 24 2013 20:01 Kinie wrote:
I feel like c9's team comp could have been better, either with a champ other than rumble (maybe Vlad or some other AP top laner) or metros not on Nocturne but j4 or another jungled with a good CC. And I think that the lulu pick was OK, but they should have realized that with the kha pick they need hard CC and not lulu, so a champ like Fiddles or Nami would have been better.

They first picked Rumble wtf.

They could improve their comp by picking around it.
The legend of Darien lives on
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 11:06:06
November 24 2013 11:04 GMT
#307
On November 24 2013 20:01 Kinie wrote:
I feel like c9's team comp could have been better, either with a champ other than rumble (maybe Vlad or some other AP top laner) or metros not on Nocturne but j4 or another jungled with a good CC. And I think that the lulu pick was OK, but they should have realized that with the kha pick they need hard CC and not lulu, so a champ like Fiddles or Nami would have been better.

Meteos should go back to his famed roots of Zac jangle.

On November 24 2013 20:00 Losthorn wrote:
Although Alex was clutch, i feel like Diamond is the real MVP setting up early ganks and locking down buffs.

Gambit generally played it pretty damn well. The interrupt at blue set Meteos behind through basically the entire early/mid game, and Edward stunzZz.

Though the number of times I watched the Jinx rocket get juked was amusing.

On November 24 2013 20:03 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:01 Kinie wrote:
I feel like c9's team comp could have been better, either with a champ other than rumble (maybe Vlad or some other AP top laner) or metros not on Nocturne but j4 or another jungled with a good CC. And I think that the lulu pick was OK, but they should have realized that with the kha pick they need hard CC and not lulu, so a champ like Fiddles or Nami would have been better.

They first picked Rumble wtf.

They could improve their comp by picking around it.

It's a comfort pick for Balls (was true terror till Rumble nerfs and meta shifts), but Gambit shut him down pretty well.

Needed more hard CC. If they revived the Ashe/Zyra bot lane, their team comp would mesh together well again.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
November 24 2013 11:04 GMT
#308
On November 24 2013 20:01 Kinie wrote:
I feel like c9's team comp could have been better, either with a champ other than rumble (maybe Vlad or some other AP top laner) or metros not on Nocturne but j4 or another jungled with a good CC. And I think that the lulu pick was OK, but they should have realized that with the kha pick they need hard CC and not lulu, so a champ like Fiddles or Nami would have been better.


lulu hex does a lot of work against assassins, not much shorter than fear (only 0.5 seconds shorter iirc)
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
November 24 2013 11:04 GMT
#309
muricans are asleep?
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Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 11:05:46
November 24 2013 11:05 GMT
#310
On November 24 2013 19:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 19:54 Brad` wrote:
If c9 got a real adc player maybe they wouldn't have to avoid the 2v2 matchup like the plague anymore.

It was M5 that swapped.


Avoid the matchup like the plague when they dont pick something abusive like Ashe/Zyra Lucian/Lulu* Never have I seen a guy pick caitlyn and move heaven and earth trying to avoid the other team's bot lane LOL.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
November 24 2013 11:05 GMT
#311
Who is casting/hosting/analyzing?
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Bizeheryer
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany307 Posts
November 24 2013 11:08 GMT
#312
It's ESL. Redeye is on the case.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 11:12:48
November 24 2013 11:11 GMT
#313
Interesting that Gambit still really respect the shen ban to the point of banning it vs c9, when korean teams have pretty much foregone shen completely.

edit: c9 with practically the same team comp, just opposite ad carries, interesting.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
November 24 2013 11:12 GMT
#314
I really, really dont like the nocturne picks.. >_>
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ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
November 24 2013 11:12 GMT
#315
On November 24 2013 20:11 Shiznick wrote:
Interesting that Gambit still really respect the shen ban to the point of banning it vs c9, when korean teams have pretty much foregone shen completely.


Gambit are known to ban "what we don't like to play against" rather than OP champs or main champs of enemy player.

And they've lost a lot of games because of it.
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
November 24 2013 11:13 GMT
#316
Lissandra Annie Orianna dear lord
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 24 2013 11:13 GMT
#317
As wierd as it sounds, Edward and Diamond are such a good duo. Every time they 2v1 Edward will constantly go and help Diamond out and roam, makes Gambit so much scarier.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 11:15:09
November 24 2013 11:14 GMT
#318
wow, pretty much the same champions in both games, just different mid laners. not too sure about the riven pick when gambit has so much lockdown, i feel like if riven tries to get into a teamfight, she'll get focused and burned instantly.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 24 2013 11:14 GMT
#319
Diamond schooled Meteos' noct with Vi, now he gets Lee sin. I dunno there.
And they still pick this rumble, at least it's not first picked.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
November 24 2013 11:14 GMT
#320
C9 has 3 melee champions and very little CC

vs 3 AoE ults
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