EPTOn November 24 2013 19:47 Lylat wrote:
So EU > RUS > NA ? ^^
So EU > RUS > NA ? ^^
It's a Bo3, so don't be too premature here. :o
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It's a Bo3, so don't be too premature here. :o | ||
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On November 24 2013 19:48 Fusilero wrote: I'm not gonna say like "sneaky is trash" but I'd like to see C9 try out otter at some point. You realized this team stomped the NA scene for 3 months straight with this player ? | ||
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On November 24 2013 19:50 mr_tolkien wrote: You realized this team stomped the NA scene for 3 months straight with this player ? I still feel like otter would be better, iirc he's a sub and a damn good ADC and I feel like they could do better with him. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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On November 24 2013 19:48 Fusilero wrote: I'm not gonna say like "sneaky is trash" but I'd like to see C9 try out otter at some point. <3 otter, but honestly, their team comp this game was worse. No hard CC versus a Kha gives Alex the room to snowball/reset fights. Lucian/Lulu bot lane was just pretty meh. On November 24 2013 19:50 mr_tolkien wrote: You realized this team stomped the NA scene for 3 months straight with this player ? Sneaky has never really been impressive as an ADC. Before it was ascribed to Meteos being a farm sink, but it's pretty clear that he's only really impactful on utility ADCs (aka Varus/Ashe) and then abusing the OPness of Zyra's synergy with those champs. Ashe/Zyra was pioneered by C9, and without that control/initiation, C9's classic team comps falls apart. Like, Rumble/Zed/Nocturne? If you put a Lucian/Lulu with them, it's a pretty lackluster teamfight. | ||
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Good man Jason. ^^ | ||
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Lylat
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On November 24 2013 19:52 Lord Tolkien wrote: <3 otter, but honestly, their team comp this game was worse. No hard CC versus a Kha gives Alex the room to snowball/reset fights. Lucian/Lulu bot lane was just pretty meh. Isn't Lulu a nice counter to Kha ? | ||
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On November 24 2013 19:50 mr_tolkien wrote: You realized this team stomped the NA scene for 3 months straight with this player ? Well he almost exclusively played ashe/varus for the CC lel Anyway, Diamond > Meteos ? huehue | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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On November 24 2013 19:54 Brad` wrote: If c9 got a real adc player maybe they wouldn't have to avoid the 2v2 matchup like the plague anymore. It was M5 that swapped. Theoretically yes, but when a player is locked down by Annie/Lissandra/Vi/Jinx, no amount of extra HP is going to save them (even the summoner heal coming out from Lemonation), and the utter lack of hard CC gimps the ability of C9 to actually engage/disengage. Like, they're forced to depend on Rumble Ulti and Nocturne, which is alright, but not when both Balls and Meteos are uncharacteristically behind. Iunno, their picks weren't coherent. Like, if Sneaky was on Varus/Ashe, then things may have been different. Then some CC/disengage/initiate potential. On November 24 2013 19:53 Fusilero wrote: I don't think lucian was the problem, I think that they should have gone fiddle instead of lulu imo. Lucian was fine in the comp but the combination of lucian/lulu didn't really work. I agree. Fiddle's better against assassins looking to dive, but tbh, Sneaky on Lucian was pretty lackluster. | ||
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