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[OGN] PandoraTV Champions Winter 2013-14 - Page 47

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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 10:30:25
November 26 2013 10:27 GMT
#921
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2715

...and reported. Team Dark disqualified from Champions.

They are also disqualified from NLB Winter, and their prize money is also taken. Decision by OGN, Riot Korea, and KeSPA.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
GozoShioda
Profile Joined October 2013
205 Posts
November 26 2013 10:42 GMT
#922
On November 26 2013 19:27 glzElectromaster wrote:
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2715

...and reported. Team Dark disqualified from Champions.

They are also disqualified from NLB Winter, and their prize money is also taken. Decision by OGN, Riot Korea, and KeSPA.


It now is going to be picked up by KT Arrows
Chop is going to be picked up by Stealths or maybe as a sub for one of the samsung teams
Savila is going to be picked up by Frost as a sub

Even if none of the above happens Team Dark was never going to last anyways. It was a one time thing. I'm more interested in hearing an apology from OnGameNet for not enforcing games to be taken seriously but that's never going to happen.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 26 2013 14:46 GMT
#923
On November 26 2013 19:27 glzElectromaster wrote:
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2715

...and reported. Team Dark disqualified from Champions.

They are also disqualified from NLB Winter, and their prize money is also taken. Decision by OGN, Riot Korea, and KeSPA.

Damn son, that's some serious shit.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 26 2013 14:56 GMT
#924
On November 24 2013 07:15 Hesmyrr wrote:
Team Dark are losers. OGN also should clarify "play to win" rules to prevent stupid games like that from occurring.


Be professional? Problem with Team Dark was that the game DID matter! Ozone could still have been eliminated if they lose that game vs team Dark and then lost 0-2 in their next series.

OGN shouldn't have to clarify anything. Do you think they should have a rule that states you can't spit on your opponents? Does that mean you can? All theirs needs is a rule about sportsmanship and professional conduct.

If both teams are 0-0-2, then I have no problem if they have an entertaining game for the fans. But this was not the case. Team Dark only thought about themselves.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 26 2013 14:58 GMT
#925
On November 26 2013 19:42 GozoShioda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 19:27 glzElectromaster wrote:
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2715

...and reported. Team Dark disqualified from Champions.

They are also disqualified from NLB Winter, and their prize money is also taken. Decision by OGN, Riot Korea, and KeSPA.


It now is going to be picked up by KT Arrows
Chop is going to be picked up by Stealths or maybe as a sub for one of the samsung teams
Savila is going to be picked up by Frost as a sub

Even if none of the above happens Team Dark was never going to last anyways. It was a one time thing. I'm more interested in hearing an apology from OnGameNet for not enforcing games to be taken seriously but that's never going to happen.


How in the world would they enforce that? Point a gun to the players' heads?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
November 26 2013 15:52 GMT
#926
On November 26 2013 23:58 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 19:42 GozoShioda wrote:
On November 26 2013 19:27 glzElectromaster wrote:
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2715

...and reported. Team Dark disqualified from Champions.

They are also disqualified from NLB Winter, and their prize money is also taken. Decision by OGN, Riot Korea, and KeSPA.


It now is going to be picked up by KT Arrows
Chop is going to be picked up by Stealths or maybe as a sub for one of the samsung teams
Savila is going to be picked up by Frost as a sub

Even if none of the above happens Team Dark was never going to last anyways. It was a one time thing. I'm more interested in hearing an apology from OnGameNet for not enforcing games to be taken seriously but that's never going to happen.


How in the world would they enforce that? Point a gun to the players' heads?

Well, kicking people out is a pretty good way...
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 16:32:02
November 26 2013 16:10 GMT
#927
On November 26 2013 23:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 19:27 glzElectromaster wrote:
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2715

...and reported. Team Dark disqualified from Champions.

They are also disqualified from NLB Winter, and their prize money is also taken. Decision by OGN, Riot Korea, and KeSPA.

Damn son, that's some serious shit.

I do feel there's more of a "It's not about the ban, it's about sending a message" vibe from this decision. More of a deterrent for this kind of behavior in the future.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
November 26 2013 16:20 GMT
#928
On November 27 2013 00:52 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 23:58 vthree wrote:
On November 26 2013 19:42 GozoShioda wrote:
On November 26 2013 19:27 glzElectromaster wrote:
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=2715

...and reported. Team Dark disqualified from Champions.

They are also disqualified from NLB Winter, and their prize money is also taken. Decision by OGN, Riot Korea, and KeSPA.


It now is going to be picked up by KT Arrows
Chop is going to be picked up by Stealths or maybe as a sub for one of the samsung teams
Savila is going to be picked up by Frost as a sub

Even if none of the above happens Team Dark was never going to last anyways. It was a one time thing. I'm more interested in hearing an apology from OnGameNet for not enforcing games to be taken seriously but that's never going to happen.


How in the world would they enforce that? Point a gun to the players' heads?

Well, kicking people out is a pretty good way...


you can only punish people retroactively for trolling in games. Now that we have an example of what happens if you troll, OGN can now use this punishment to deter any future teams from doing it.
baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
November 27 2013 04:03 GMT
#929
Anyone else in Korea been having problems with the Twitch stream? I mean, it's always been a bit shaky for me, but for the last couple of games it's been really bad. I'm happy to pay the subscription to support what OGN are doing, but with the jump in price it's getting to the point where it's not really worth it, since I can't reliably watch it in HD anyway. It's absurd that it's so laggy for me considering I live less than an hour away from Yongsan.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 27 2013 04:26 GMT
#930
On November 27 2013 13:03 baekgom84 wrote:
Anyone else in Korea been having problems with the Twitch stream? I mean, it's always been a bit shaky for me, but for the last couple of games it's been really bad. I'm happy to pay the subscription to support what OGN are doing, but with the jump in price it's getting to the point where it's not really worth it, since I can't reliably watch it in HD anyway. It's absurd that it's so laggy for me considering I live less than an hour away from Yongsan.

Thegunrun is apparently working with OGN to fix it, you're definitely not the only one.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 27 2013 04:52 GMT
#931
Where did Cain Go?
Freeeeeeedom
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3829 Posts
November 27 2013 07:40 GMT
#932
On November 27 2013 13:03 baekgom84 wrote:
Anyone else in Korea been having problems with the Twitch stream? I mean, it's always been a bit shaky for me, but for the last couple of games it's been really bad. I'm happy to pay the subscription to support what OGN are doing, but with the jump in price it's getting to the point where it's not really worth it, since I can't reliably watch it in HD anyway. It's absurd that it's so laggy for me considering I live less than an hour away from Yongsan.


Yeh a little bit,
I just watch it on TV now because the quality is a lot better anyway
: o )
baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
November 27 2013 10:47 GMT
#933
On November 27 2013 16:40 ShloobeR wrote:
Yeh a little bit,
I just watch it on TV now because the quality is a lot better anyway


Right! I get OGN as part of my cable package and I can easily watch the Korean stream via TVing or any of the other carriers, but I really do like Doa and Monte's casting. I wish they'd offer an alternative stream that originated from Korea.
dipsarkar
Profile Joined November 2013
India7 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 16:45:10
November 28 2013 16:41 GMT
#934
On November 27 2013 13:03 baekgom84 wrote:
Anyone else in Korea been having problems with the Twitch stream? I mean, it's always been a bit shaky for me, but for the last couple of games it's been really bad. I'm happy to pay the subscription to support what OGN are doing, but with the jump in price it's getting to the point where it's not really worth it, since I can't reliably watch it in HD anyway. It's absurd that it's so laggy for me considering I live less than an hour away from Yongsan.


I also faced trouble with Twitch stream. I watched the last few games live in KMPlayer and I am really happy with the stream. Looking forward to Dec 4 game.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
December 02 2013 06:50 GMT
#935


Ohh shit.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 02 2013 06:56 GMT
#936
Yuuuuup, Tiza said this a while ago. Preseason + FotM(odd how Face of the Mountain abbreviates like that) hotfixes.
baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
December 02 2013 07:23 GMT
#937
YES! And not a moment too soon! I'm so sick of seeing games where a team ekes out a tiny advantage and then methodically builds that into an unassailable lead. I can't even remember the last game in Champs where there was a 5k+ gold turnaround which couldn't be attributed to an obvious throw.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 07:37:11
December 02 2013 07:36 GMT
#938
your caviat isn't exactly fair.

getting a lead should be an advantage requiring one team to be outplayed in order to relenquish the lead
Carrilord has arrived.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 02 2013 07:45 GMT
#939
just make engaging easier so teh losing team can take risks and actually get fights
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
December 02 2013 08:07 GMT
#940
You're not wrong, but what I meant was that Korean teams (in particular) have become too good at transforming small advantages into certain victories through methodical and conservative play. While there's nothing wrong with this per se, I feel that the games have become far too predictable from a spectator's perspective. Sometimes I find NA/EU games more entertaining, simply because they are more willing to take risks and/or make mistakes at crucial junctures. The issue - as you alluded to - is that there simply aren't any good options for a team who hit a critical threshold of being down on gold and vision control. I hope the pre-season changes are the answer to this.
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