EPTgenerally yea, but he does throw sometimes.
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
generally yea, but he does throw sometimes. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:13 oneofthem wrote: generally yea, but he does throw sometimes. I think at a professional level throws are generally more of a team thing than a single player. if a player throws, its a result of a bad call, not necessarily his decision. | ||
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ketchup
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:13 ketchup wrote: There must be a thing to the Zac vs Shyvana lane though. I recall Nien playing it against Shyvana in the first week of NA LCS too. I really don't see any outcome except for shyvana running a pain train on zac, she can zone zac out of his blobs so well and have brutal trades. | ||
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:15 padfoota wrote: I really havent seen Zac do too well since his huge ulti nerf and regen nerfs On January 25 2014 19:14 Fusilero wrote: I really don't see any outcome except for shyvana running a pain train on zac, she can zone zac out of his blobs so well and have brutal trades. I agree with both of these, but I'm just saying there must be more to it. I don't think they are picking random champions that they have not practiced for. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:13 ketchup wrote: There must be a thing to the Zac vs Shyvana lane though. I recall Nien playing it against Shyvana in the first week of NA LCS too. It's not like these guys are picking any random champion without prior practice. I (Think?) Zac has the better 1v2 and can show up to the 1v1 with a negatron and farm it out, however Ozone had the thoretical winning match up in the 2v2 and chose to roll with it also I agree with Bokchoi, if a guy makes a bigger impact than your mid, on this patch, with Karthus, you aren't banning him out. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Even with the ulti/damage nerfs his utility is still through the roof with his off-screen initiations + immense cc. It's just that he literally cannot survive lane phase since he'll just slowly kill himself trying to trade and trying to pick up his blobs mean you take even more harass. On top of that, he can't push towers for shit. On January 25 2014 19:16 Slusher wrote: I (Think?) Zac has the better 1v2 and can show up to the 1v1 with a negatron and farm it out, however Ozone had the thoretical winning match up in the 2v2 and chose to roll with it Zac can't 1v2 anymore since his skills cost a ton of health. It used to be ok since he can heal with blobs. Now, blobs fly so far away the other team can punish you extremely hard when you try to pick them up. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Also that while top was kinda acceptable losses impact's rotations were flawless in getting him kills and he got to the 1v5 stage of shyv long before dade's yasuo could get rolling | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
@ below yes lol, Dandy | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:19 Slusher wrote: honestly if Dade hit's the web when Impact didn't even know he was there things might have been different. You mean Dandy? | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:04 FinestHour wrote: double/triple roa pretty core for karthus ryze or kassadin this is nothing new #thingsbronzedoes On January 25 2014 19:13 ketchup wrote: There must be a thing to the Zac vs Shyvana lane though. I recall Nien playing it against Shyvana in the first week of NA LCS too. It's not like these guys are picking any random champion without prior practice. It'd be a great pick if they reverted his blob positioning nerf. It leaves him open to so much harras that he doesn't get much out of picking them up, while not being able to protect himself. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:20 Ryuu314 wrote: It also didn't help that Mandu's Alistar was fucking on point this game. Headbutting Zac away before Looper could do anything. yeah mandu's allistar is the unsung hero here. he zoned out zac so much so he couldnt knock up the team. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22434 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:06 Ryuu314 wrote: As strong as Yasuo is, I think he's overrated simply because of how much you have to try in formulating your team comp to make him work. Easiest way I think is a Vi jungle. Its a strong pick anyway and it gives you enough on demand knockups for yasuo to work off of. If you want more take a Tresh aswell tho that one is a lot less usefull of a combo. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:23 Gorsameth wrote: Easiest way I think is a Vi jungle. Its a strong pick anyway and it gives you enough on demand knockups for yasuo to work off of. If you want more take a Tresh aswell tho that one is a lot less usefull of a combo. Thresh was banned and dandy doesn't play vi. Vi jungle and a stronger top would have been far better but ozone kinda boxed themselves when they first picked yasuo. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 25 2014 19:23 Gorsameth wrote: Easiest way I think is a Vi jungle. Its a strong pick anyway and it gives you enough on demand knockups for yasuo to work off of. If you want more take a Tresh aswell tho that one is a lot less usefull of a combo. Nami is good too. Vi Yasuo makes it obvious who you're targetting and a Kayle can counter that | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Is this the first time we're seeing Piglet play Lucian ? Piglet has shyed away from Lucian for so long.. | ||
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