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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 25 2014 10:05 GMT
#3581
I'll be the first to admit it, when I was thinking of good things to pick vs. a first pick Yasuo, Karthus was nowhere near the list.
Carrilord has arrived.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9144 Posts
January 25 2014 10:05 GMT
#3582
Ozone let them win so they can pull a Frost and come back from 0-2
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 25 2014 10:05 GMT
#3583
On January 25 2014 19:04 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 19:04 AsnSensation wrote:
"Impact is not world class"

Thoorin 2014 :D


He really said that? Pretty sure impact proved he was world-class by stomping all the other top laners he faced at world's


He said Impact wasn't as good as Shy or Flame (but still world-class)
Liquipedia"Expert"
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 25 2014 10:06 GMT
#3584
the way the stream has all the lol music slightly off-tune is hilarious
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 25 2014 10:06 GMT
#3585
On January 25 2014 19:05 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 19:04 bokchoi wrote:
On January 25 2014 19:04 AsnSensation wrote:
"Impact is not world class"

Thoorin 2014 :D


He really said that? Pretty sure impact proved he was world-class by stomping all the other top laners he faced at world's


He said Impact wasn't as good as Shy or Flame (but still world-class)


shy and flame got overhyped via a strategy that involved their team covering for them while they played PvE for 20 min (sorry CJ fans but it's true)
Carrilord has arrived.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 25 2014 10:06 GMT
#3586
On January 25 2014 19:04 Thinasy wrote:
Seriously how can you stop this team? 1 game away from UNDEFEATED OMG!

Also, the Zac pick was the big problem this game since Impact just got WAY too big holy fuck, he, bengi and Mandu just zoned like gods, Faker was allowed to stand in the middle of the fight and do what he wanted and Piglet just had perfect positioning as usual

The Zac pick felt like Ozone panicking to me. They got to their last pick and realized that they really needed a knockup since none of their other picks had any synergy with Yasuo at all. They panicked and picked Zac, who is in a pretty bad place atm.

As strong as Yasuo is, I think he's overrated simply because of how much you have to try in formulating your team comp to make him work.
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
January 25 2014 10:06 GMT
#3587
I still don't think karthus is a good pick vs yasuo, cause you need an insane amount of skill to play vs a champ taht can basically dash at will. Even faker had problems and needed bengi to help out
im deaf
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 10:08:45
January 25 2014 10:07 GMT
#3588
On January 25 2014 19:05 Slusher wrote:
I'll be the first to admit it, when I was thinking of good things to pick vs. a first pick Yasuo, Karthus was nowhere near the list.


Laning phase is rough as it looks like level 1-3 Karthus can't do much vs. all the dmg Yasuo can throw out, but post 6 I'm pretty sure Karthus would beat/trade with Yasuo and eventually outscale him with a build similar to what Faker had.

I think if Ozone had gone Yasuo top, Orianna mid they might have had a better shot, especially after seeing Karthus picked up. Ori can throw the ball on Elise or Leona when they engage, ult, then Yasuo can come in with his ult and just delete 1-3 champs with 0 chance of stopping it.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 25 2014 10:07 GMT
#3589
On January 25 2014 19:06 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 19:05 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 25 2014 19:04 bokchoi wrote:
On January 25 2014 19:04 AsnSensation wrote:
"Impact is not world class"

Thoorin 2014 :D


He really said that? Pretty sure impact proved he was world-class by stomping all the other top laners he faced at world's


He said Impact wasn't as good as Shy or Flame (but still world-class)


shy and flame got overhyped via a strategy that involved their team covering for them while they played PvE for 20 min (sorry CJ fans but it's true)


yes and no, the thing is your team can cover you all you want if you don't have the individual skills and mechanics to be that presence doesn't matter what your team does for you.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 25 2014 10:08 GMT
#3590
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 10:09:32
January 25 2014 10:08 GMT
#3591
On January 25 2014 19:06 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 19:05 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 25 2014 19:04 bokchoi wrote:
On January 25 2014 19:04 AsnSensation wrote:
"Impact is not world class"

Thoorin 2014 :D


He really said that? Pretty sure impact proved he was world-class by stomping all the other top laners he faced at world's


He said Impact wasn't as good as Shy or Flame (but still world-class)


shy and flame got overhyped via a strategy that involved their team covering for them while they played PvE for 20 min (sorry CJ fans but it's true)

Really shy and flame play completely different from impact comparing them is a waste, shy and flame will PvE top getting big on their champion of choice before emerging at like 25 minutes to carry the match. Impact is clearly more about roaming and rotations to force plays in SKT's favour. It's why he was pretty big on the rango when rango was available because it fits him perfectly.
It's not like shy and flame are bad, if the team bases their strats heavily around giving space they'd better be good enough to carry hard but impact doesn't play it like them.
Glorious SEA doto
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
January 25 2014 10:08 GMT
#3592
On January 25 2014 19:06 imBLIND wrote:
I still don't think karthus is a good pick vs yasuo, cause you need an insane amount of skill to play vs a champ taht can basically dash at will. Even faker had problems and needed bengi to help out


Not in the lane itself, probably no, but the karthus pick was brilliant in this comp. They had so much zone potential with a shyvana, alistar and a Nunu
Jaedong & Faker
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
January 25 2014 10:08 GMT
#3593
Karthus really interesting pick vs yasou....

Zac shit pick -_-....
Stop procrastinating
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 25 2014 10:08 GMT
#3594
well yes, making effective use of the farm is a skill, but they've been exposed in 1v1s vs. other top tops.
Carrilord has arrived.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 25 2014 10:09 GMT
#3595
impact has always been pretty reliable save the very occasional lapse in judgement. his mechanics is pretty good
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
January 25 2014 10:10 GMT
#3596
On January 25 2014 19:04 AsnSensation wrote:
"Impact is not world class"

Thoorin 2014 :D


He said other retarded things like froggen is best western player etc.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
January 25 2014 10:10 GMT
#3597
On January 25 2014 19:09 oneofthem wrote:
impact has always been pretty reliable save the very occasional lapse in judgement. his mechanics is pretty good


His game sense is flawless
Jaedong & Faker
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 25 2014 10:11 GMT
#3598
Flame and Shy have to carry. Impact has Faker and Piglet. He can pretty much play utility, carry, initiator, whatever the hell he likes.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 10:12:55
January 25 2014 10:12 GMT
#3599
Please just give me a Faker show next game

Edit: or Piglet)
Jaedong & Faker
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 25 2014 10:12 GMT
#3600
On January 25 2014 19:08 padfoota wrote:
Karthus really interesting pick vs yasou....

Zac shit pick -_-....

I liked the idea behind zac but impact just knew that he could completely shit on looper by nature of the match up. This match was heavily on dandy's completely worthless ganks if he had just given one kill to looper it would relieve top so heavily and there would be less pressure on looper that allowed impact to roam and get big like he did, SKT were always going to have the better 1v1s so it was on dandy to relieve them but he just didn't.
Glorious SEA doto
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